Have you ever managed people Rev? serious question?
I've managed many teams/people in various sectors and I can tell you if the people in those teams are useless they're useless and nothing will ever change that. You can motivate, encourage and try to play to peoples strengths, but the simple fact is, if they're bobbins they're bobbins, its no different in football.
The posters claiming Mowbray, Coyle, Lambert and Bowyer should be doing better are generally the posters that think we've had a shot of the play offs for the past 3/4 seasons, they believe the players are better than they are, and I think you certainly fit into that category Rev.
In my opinion the players are not in a false position, we're getting relegated because we're awful, and its time to see the players for what they actually are and thats cr@p, with 1/2 exceptions.
But we all know its those rats in Pune that are the real issue, everything else is a side show, until they crawl back under the rock we'll not be able to move forward.