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  1. Gav

    Coronavirus

    Yes I can and I have done IG.
  2. Gav

    Coronavirus

    To put this into some perspective for you, even allowing for 10% of deaths not actually being directly caused by Covid alone, we've lost a town the size of Darwen or Accrigtnton to this virus, an entire towns population has been killed by Covid19, think about that. The last thing this Tory government wanted to do was close down the country and destroy the economy, this is very real, your point makes little or no sense to me. To me you're falling just short of calling the entire episode a hoax, I can tell you categorically this isn't a hoax.
  3. Gav

    Coronavirus

    Couldn't agree more 47er. But the original point was about Putin being one of the worlds most impressive leaders - That is absolute bunkum, he's a murdering tyrant who will stop at nothing to remain in power, very dangerous and quiet the opposite of a great world leader.
  4. Gav

    Coronavirus

    Go on I'll bite..... Supporting/funding terrorism around the globe - Very impressive Supporting Assad's use of chemical weapons on his own people in Douma, then Russia going to the Hague to defend/deny the actions, lying - Very impressive Throwing political opponents in jail and murdering others that dare to speak out - Very impressive On going persecution of LGBT people - Very impressive Chemical attacks in Salisbury - Very impressive Thats just off the top of my head and I've not even started on Crimea. Putin is a bully, he feeds off the weak and if he wasn't around, the world would be a much better place.
  5. Gav

    Coronavirus

    What comments didn't I backup EA, I don't want you feeling ignored? If you believe the Russian have a vaccine then good luck to you. You'll be telling us next that Russia wasn't involved in the attempted murder of the Skripals.....
  6. Gav

    Coronavirus

    A bit like Putin claiming they had less infections than Luxembourg, despite having a population of 169m Incredible achievement.
  7. Gav

    Politics

    Where there is money there is corruption, especially during a global pandemic where checks are not as stringent as they should be in the pursuit of highly sought after items. But lets not pretend we know the level of corruption until its investigated. I have first hand knowledge of the procurement process for PPE and medial supplies, all of which was done above board to my knowledge. Everyone made a killing in the supply chain world (excuse the term) because when demand is high the price is high, its just how the world works and in this case had no bearing on which political persuasion you fell into.
  8. Gav

    Brexit

    Genuine question, as I'm still not sure about this, but with you being a bean counter maybe you can give me an honest assessment. One of the vote leave campaigns early gripes was around getting full sign off on the EU's accounts, not partial sign off where the ones who refused are bypassed, but full sign off on where EU members money was going. Can you enlighten me on that philipl?
  9. Gav

    Politics

    The government do use professional procurement and no way would the bill have been slashed by 50% in the middle of a global pandemic where stock was in very limited supply, the price went up, supply and demand philipl. As for Chinese manufacturers, almost 100,000 masks bought for one Chinese manufacturer wasn't fit for front line usage, a but like the PPE story in the papers, the stock was used, but in a different setting, but they don't tell you that in the bold headlines behind the pay wall.
  10. Gav

    Politics

    Nice try 47er Nobody has said that its fine and dandy to throw money away on dodgy gear, far to often poster read what they want to read and ignore whats actually written in the pursuit of one-upmanship...... Anyone found to have defrauded government, be it procurement of PPE or furloughing staff, should be dealt with using the full force of the law.
  11. Gav

    Politics

    Can you quote the post where you believe someone/anyone on the thread claimed corruption, or accusations of corruption, was fine and dandy? I don’t remember anyone saying that, but I may have missed it?
  12. Gav

    Politics

    Its the same as devolving powers to local government and then slashing the Labour run councils budgets, its a vote winner, Labour councils get the blame.
  13. Gav

    Brexit

    You lost your original posting name, you got a new one, welcome back
  14. Gav

    Brexit

    Horse manure We have no deal at the moment, having left EU, so by definition getting a deal cannot make us worse off, it makes us better off. Just sayin...
  15. Gav

    Brexit

    We need all the deals we can get at this stage, lets hope this if the first of many. You don't have to jump for joy at the prospect, but just ignoring it tells its own story.
  16. Gav

    Politics

    I think the bill was £16bn for PPE and ventilators - If that money saved lives I couldn't care less who made money from it, as long as our NHS staff were protected and patients given the best possible care. Its been reported that £150m of the £16bn, many have been spent on dodgy equipment, this need looking into and it seems the government are keen to do so. Thankfully the vast majority of equipment sourced was of good standard and went to where it was needed.
  17. Gav

    Politics

    Securing PPE from around the globe during a global pandemic is like playing the stock market, you don't have time to carry out anything other than the basic checks, you sometimes get burned sadly. If the government were to 'strive for efficiency and value for money' in the middle of a global pandemic they'd still be looking for PPE now den. The only way be sure of efficiency and value for money is to run checks on the suppliers, obtain certification, MHRA, I could go on, but it takes a while should we say. You've learnt something today, every days a school day den.
  18. Gav

    Politics

    Whilst your striving for efficiency and value for money, people are potentially dying on the front line due to lack of PPE, people are suffering in intensive care because they can't breath, all the things you were quite rightly shouting from the rooftops about stopping during the early stages of the crisis. Now the government should have stopped the procurement process, looked for value for money and efficiency in the middle of a global pandemic with supplies in high demand globally.
  19. Gav

    Brexit

    Can you give me some guidelines on trade deals that are acceptable please? Just so I know for future reference? I've mentioned the potential deal with Japan, which could also be very favourable to the UK car manufacturing industry, but thats been met with: Whatabout the number of deals the Tories should have in place.........Whatabout it only being worth 0.07 of UK GDP ........ If you can set out the rules I'll try not to waste anyone's time by mentioning deals that don't count
  20. Gav

    Politics

    I'm fine thanks for asking.. The money that was spent on dodgy gear needs investigating, PPE that wasn't fit for purpose, as I have said many times, maybe you missed that 47er in your haste. The vast majority of PPE hit the front line, was used across the UK and to be honest with you, I couldn't care less if it lined Tory supporters, Labours or anyone else's pockets, it saved lives, thats all that matters to me.
  21. Gav

    Brexit

    Classic whataboutery Lets hope the Japan trade deal is the first of many, because whether we like it or not, we have to live with the result and move forward.
  22. Gav

    Politics

    The logic is, we are were crying out for PPE, so the government bought PPE, billions of items (If you count gloves twice ). Now its claimed the procurement was dodgy and we bought from companies we shouldn't have, absolute bunkum. I couldn't care less where the items came from, the vast majority reached the front line and saved lives, thats all that matters. I'm not sure we bought horse manure Jim, can you explain that one please?
  23. Gav

    Brexit

    Looks like the first long awaited trade deal is set to be signed with Japan, surprised nobody’s picked this up, it’s all over the media... Apologies for the newspaper, but it wasn’t behind a pay wall. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12343899/japan-uk-trade-deal-verge/amp/
  24. Gav

    Politics

    Anyone who cares to look back on this thread can read post after post from yourself and many others crying out for PPE, ventilators, gowns and masks, quite right too. The government obliged, eventually, we can’t start complaining now that they went to wrong suppliers. They got the job done, that’s all that matters at the time.
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