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  1. 11 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

    Hate to be a cynic (but that's what Mowbray brings out in us/me) but I think tonight was just a little buffer, I'm expecting us to get a proper walloping from Bournemouth now (obviously I'd love to be proved wrong though!!)

    I totally agree. I think we might get walloped against Bournemouth but we might get a draw or even a win. I’d love to be proved wrong. But I’m just a cynic like you.

  2. 21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

    It is not a lack of support to predict that a player will never be up to standard to play at this level on an internet messageboard.

    I seem to recall the same comments made about Brereton. Some players develop at different rates. I like to think that Mowbray sees something in him otherwise he wouldn’t be anywhere near the first team squad. Let’s see how his career develops before we dismiss him.

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  3. Really enjoyable game. The players’ work rate was amazing and we more than matched the probable Champions today. 
    Some great interplay at times and I don’t think anyone had a poor game although Buckley might be frustrated with his performance.

    Lenihan and H-B were outstanding again with Kaminski making 3 crucial saves.

    For once I agree with Talksport in that Tony Mowbray’s subs were well timed and helped see the game out although  we might have snatched it at the end with Rothwell.

     

  4. On 30/01/2021 at 20:41, Gav said:

    A mate for mine dabbles in crypto currency, for those who aren't familiar with crypto, its like the modern take on stocks and shares, but can be very dodgy as its not really regulated, fortunes are won, lost and robbed in some cases.

    He's been buying and selling crypto coins for years and is a member of several forums like this one, but for people who are interested in crypto, you have no idea who you're talking to, they could be anyone.

    He got talking to a chap about 12 months ago, an American who was based in Mexico, the guy was down on his luck and was looking for bus fare back to San Diego to move back in with his parents and start a new crypto platform and coin, yes it is that easy to do. My mate sent this guy $75 for the bus fare and bought him a domain name for his new coin website (Internet address) and didn't think much more about it.

    They continued to chat and the lad was talking about his new venture, well in December he contacted my mate and gave him 100,000 coins in preparation for the launch last week, to thank him for $75 he was desperate for.

    The coin launched and the 100,000 coins value came in at just under £10,000!

    It just goes to show, sometimes you are rewarded for being kind and considerate. 

    That’s a great story.

    I too trade in Bitcoin and the returns at the moment are amazing although I agree it is high risk. It eclipses by far from what you get betting on footy or horses.

    The current price for 1 Bitcoin is £36,000 as of a few minutes ago! So I’m wondering what crypto coins your friend has got?!

    He’ll be able to buy out Venky’s; own the club, relay the pitch and dish out free season tickets if he’s got Bitcoin!


     

  5. We even got our own game report in the Times this morning.

    I quote: “Reports from India say that Venky’s, the Rovers owners are displeased with the situation but a change of manager is not thought to be imminent.”

    First time I’ve read about Venky’s “concern” but no explanation as to these “reports”. What will not help the fans’ mood is what Mowbray said next “ We move on to the next game and hope our luck changes”.

    I can’t believe we’ve gone from play off contention to a relegation scrap in a few short weeks. The parallel with Hull is very worrying.

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  6. 2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

    I think solely based on judging the squad Mowbray has assembled against other squads without judging managers, that it is not in the top 6 squads, and that some of our players are overrated. I do think that it is underachieving down in 15th however under Mowbray, based on his baffling tactics etc.

    O'Neill, no, the other 4 are top managers at this level who get more than the sum of a teams parts at this level, so for sure, they would have us competing.

    Really interesting thread Rover99 and one I’ve been thinking about for some time. I recall Gary Bowyer getting criticised as he supposedly had a top 6 squad but failed to get them there.

    I think there are 3 elements to this question. Firstly, if you believe in the top 6 statement then it seems to me that Tony Mowbray deserves credit for assembling the squad.

    Secondly, the fact that we have not been a top 6 club this season is a big negative against the manager and he faces criticism for his tactics, team selections etc. as supporters claim we are underperforming.

    Like someone commented previously we as fans think our squad is better than most and should be doing better but often it’s based on a hunch or gut feeling. Is there any way that we could use objective, empirical baseline data to answer the question?

    Which leads me to the third element. If  you compared all 24 squads in the Championship, looking at the goalkeepers, defenders, midfielders and forwards and applied skill based data to each area and quantified it you could arrive at a crude score for each team and thus be aware of which teams were over or underperforming. I’m not sure if such data exists but it would be an interesting exercise.

    I do know that in the world of education over the last 30 years such base line data has been applied to our pupils so managers and teachers have an idea what an individual pupil should be capable of and whether schools are under or over performing when it comes to public exams. I well remember being appraised every year over my exam results as other teachers on here will empathise with. 

    I know it’s not exactly scientific but last months Four Four Two magazine studied the remaining Championship  fixtures in 2021 and they had Rovers finishing in 9th place. The top 6 were Norwich, Watford, Bournemouth, Brentford, Swansea and Middlesborough so it will be interesting to see how accurate their magazine writers are.


     

     

     

  7. 7 minutes ago, J*B said:

    Joe, I mean this will all due respect, but Jack’s legacy isn’t Rovers winning the league. I would assume you’re too young to really remember what Jack did?

    Jacks legacy is putting Blackburn on the map. It’s giving the fans pride in the club. It’s the commentators on TV saying “the most successful town football club in the world”. It’s giving local kids the opportunity to train at a superb academy and maybe one day, represent their town. They don’t necessarily need to be stars at Blackburn Rovers. Its about the soccer schools for local kids. The disability groups for local people. The women’s team, who are treated just like the men’s. 
    It’s creating jobs and opportunities for local people - whether that be at the academy on reception, or the chippy on Bolton Road which makes a fortune on match day. Jack’s legacy on the pitch is about challenging the big boys, creating a mentality of managers, coaches and players proud to represent Blackburn and it’s people. Blackburn Rovers will never be Manchester United - but Jack’s motto was “think big” and there’s absolutely nothing to say, for 90 minutes, 11 men representing the town of Blackburn cannot defeat 11 men playing for Manchester United. 

    Jack’s legacy is for the town, its bigger than the football club. 

    I agree with what you are saying about      Jack Walker and the town and how much pride we all felt in the Golden 90’s but two thoughts spring to mind. 
    Firstly, the Walker family were not slow themselves in undermining his legacy by selling the club to Venky’s and secondly, if we are £196 million in debt then perhaps a chance for our owners to make £50/60 million by selling some part of the Brockhall facility to maintain our very existence as a football club should  at least be considered as long as it doesn’t impact massively on the playing side.

     

  8. 2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

    Grooby, Ste B et al were always making ‘humorous’ tweaks to profile descriptions and the like. It’s a football message board not the Court Circular.

    What a bizarre post. But I reckon you are just doing the brfcs version of the Handforth Parish Council meme, subtle though, I’ll give you that...

    You are rather prone to exaggeration. I don’t really take any notice of what you say. It doesn’t make any sense.

  9. 1 hour ago, J*B said:

    I’m so pissed off with this teams consistent failings when it comes to the top six. I could write a long post trying to emphasis the point but at this stage, I’m with StevenSK, I realise it’s pointless and instead should turn this into #MercersWineClub. 

    @MercerI’m looking for a white to go with sea bass tomorrow evening, maximum budget £20, typically stay in the NZ Sauvignon territory. I’ll be buying from Whalley Wine Shop, so ideally something they will have it stock. 

    What gives you the right to change the title of the thread? You are setting a precedent surely? 
    I’m pretty sure this was not how Lee Grooby and his friends envisaged how this message board would develop when it was started in 1996.

    You have overstepped your role and I feel that what you’ve done is out of order.

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  10. 51 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

    it did`nt work until  he got so desperate he put 4 subs on at once !!!

    Of course it worked! 
    We have a very strong bench and he used it to it’s full capacity as even their manager conceded.

    You use the word desparate  others might call it tactical.

    Historically I’m wondering if it’s the first time in our long and distinguished membership of the Football League that we have used 4 subs in a competitive game, other than friendlies?

  11. 36 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

    You know it, I know it, and the thing is - the players know it as well.

    In your opinion obviously. Poor bloke seems to get as much criticism after victories than he does defeats!

    I’m genuinely interested in which players know he’s “winging it?” Do you have evidence of this or is it another example of your personal bias?

     

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  12. Like any game of 90 minutes there are periods of excitement, periods of frustration and periods of mind numbing boredom.

    The 3 points today are massive and keep us in the hunt for a playoff place. There are about 12 teams who will still be hoping and we can be one of them. Our subs bench now is so strong. I saw a caption in the Norwich-Boro game that we’ve got most goals from our subs bench in the league.

    I think some posters just thrive in being over critical; let’s just enjoy these wins.

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  13. 3 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

    Rovers transfer latest as Everton & West Brom defenders linked | Lancashire Telegraph

    Cedric Kipre, a summer transfer target for Rovers, has been mooted as being a possible addition this month, however the Premier League club are expected to warrant the majority of his salary to be covered to give them wiggle room in the market as they battle against the drop.

    Rovers would only be able to offer up to half of the Ivorian’s Hawthorns salary, which is ruling out any possible move this month, as things stand.

    This gives Big Sam a chance to thwart Venkys perhaps? I’m sure he doesn’t want to do them any favours on transfers.

  14. 2 hours ago, JHRover said:

    Could, would, should. That's how it has been for 3 years yet we've never actually done it or stayed there for any time. 

    It's not over yet this manager has repeatedly shown he can't do it so unless something radical changes in the next few weeks there's no point getting worked up about it. I predict 4-5 points from the next 3 to keep us ticking over but not making serious headway and then 3-4 defeats through February to take us away again.

    What a great mental position to be in!

    You predict outwardly that we’ll be nowhere near come the end of February then you’ll be heralded as a prophet but secretly like the rest of us you’ll be as pleased as punch if we do go on a bit of a run. Absolute win win scenario!

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  15. 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    Hi Tony. Actions speak louder than words and I've formed my opinion over a period of time based on Mowbray's tenure here.

    You obviously have a different view and that's fine. I doubt you know Warnock any better than I know Mowbray but even if we were to accept your character assessment of them both, Warnock's managerial CV eclipses that of our manager and I want a manager who'll get us success not one I can invite round for tea.

    Obviously Warnock has managed more games than Mowbray but statistically Mowbray has a better win percentage than Warnock so maybe in time our manager can eclipse his CV!

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  16. 2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    Agree entirely. I wasn't a fan until he was out of work for a while and had an extended spell as  Co presenter on the Talk Sport Breakfast show with Alan Brazil.

    To my surprise I found him a really engaging character who wears his heart on his sleeve and says exactly what he thinks unlike most managers who lapse into ridiculous manager speak to cover their backsides. The only criticism you can lay at his door imo is that he gets carried away in the heat of the moment either during the match or immediately post match and says the sort of things a fan would say. Again I find that rather refreshing.

    Meanwhile you've got a manager into his seventies bouncing with enthusiasm and passion busting a gut trying to add yet another promotion to his already impressive CV.

    Whereas we have Mowbray going through the motions counting down the days until retirement pulling the wool over our owners eyes by waffling on vaguely about journeys and challenging for the top 6 sometime never.

    I’m sorry Rev but I can’t let your post go unchallenged.

    Your last paragraph shows well your disdain for our manager. You assert he is deceitful to his employers, he is lazy and is only motivated by his retirement pot at the end of his career.

    Assertions that I doubt you have any evidence for.

    Astonishingly, you contrast him with a 70 year old who engaged in a foul mouthed rant against the officials and later with an 18 year old boy wearing blue and white. 

    Your defence of him is that he is “engaging” and “ he gets carried away in the heat of the moment!” You must have missed Arbritros’s earlier post which contains plenty of damning comments about Neil Warnock.

    Some posters may also remember Warnock’s attempted assault on Shearer after words were exchanged at Brammall Lane in the 1990’s.

    I have listened to every interview Tony Mowbray has given and being a  reasonable judge of character  in my honest opinion our manager is a man of standards and integrity.

     

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