And about 3 seconds behind play.

Amateur hour is right. Today, we’ve received a ST card for one of the three I renewed over the phone at the same time. I disagree about the marketing suggestion though. Good money after bad, as the new pricing strategy has doomed us to close to ST holder numbers at the ‘biggest’ home games this season. Mind you, there aren’t even any glamour ties to bring people in this season. PNE and Blackpool are about the only interesting games and purely for local reasons. (Aside from the fact that Mowbray doesn’t seem to care about local derby games). Waggott’s strategy of seemingly holding fans hostage to STs, with the threat of increased walk-on prices, was as stupid as it was crass. The only surprise was that they didn’t market the removal of the Waggott Tax™️ at the same time. “How to destroy a football club in 10 easy steps”, eh? Any one of several ex and/or current Rovers incumbents could write that book!

Agree with both your posts on this. However, we also need to bring in some experience to make sure we don’t put all of our eggs in the youth basket and get relegated. Mowbray is not good enough at developing young players quickly and spends the majority of their contract lengths bringing them in and out of the side. They need older heads around them (and so does Mowbray). Meanwhile Mowbray is busy getting in even more young players, who I assume won’t question him. Although it makes me wonder if Chapman did and suffered the consequences…?

A cheap one with the lowest level maintenance contract?

Nope. Quite the opposite, it has seen his confidence soar. Long may it continue.

Fans in the ground always do. Seems an unnecessarily pointy comment.

Sixth after two games. Nose bleed territory. Mowbray must be furious. Venkys won’t believe him now when he says he needs more money/players!

Diaz!!

Imagine being a football manager who runs out of ideas so carries on doing the same things again and again regardless. I bet he can’t believe they haven’t paid up his contract yet.

He left the club in the PL. Personally I thought his biggest mistake was signing Dwight Yorke. Cole has been reinvigorated and Yorke brought him down again, and Souness along with him.

Three nice shirts really. When Mowbray leaves we will probably purchase three shirts. #oldshirtsontil… Oh stop it Stuart, nobody cares about any kind of symbolic but financially impactful protest to put any pressure on, they’d prefer to only moan on a messageboard.

BBC don’t see the irony of interviewing a family outside the ground before the game: “we we used to have a PL team and now this is our PL team, followed by a commentary line of “scoring in front of the Brentford faithful”. Football is a mess. ‘Supporters’ are ‘consumers’ who are just expected to come and go with success and failure. If their team is in the PL then they are in “the club “ and it artificially inflates the number of people who suddenly call it their team. Average gates of 10k in the Championship. Still, with only 16,000 fans at a season opening home game against Arsenal, (even if 90% of capacity) it just shows what a small club they are - a much smaller club than us. (Despite what people will tell you - including people well paid to work for our club).

Meanwhile we have billionaire owners. If they are happy to sell off Jack Walker’s legacy rather than put right their own mistakes there is something wrong.

And yet, with the right manager and plan it could have been possible - just look at Brentford. With the money Venkys have spent, it’s an embarrassment that we are in this state. If the spending money has been stopped then they need to bring in a manager to get the extra 20% out of the players that Mowbray isn’t able to. The Armstrong money provides an opportunity to replace both Mowbray and Waggott…

It’s the same thing though. He doesn’t think like a Rovers fan, or even a football fan. He thinks like a businessman. An old school, out of touch, one. The fan comment was “knock £3 off of you buy early”. He heard make the Waggott tax price the actual price - and then maybe offer some occasional discounts. This bloke needs to be removed from his post. In the meantime, the FF need to continue to hold him to account.

We, as a fanbase, have the club we deserve. We have done nothing to protect it - 300 hardy souls was/is not enough. The Walkers were always going to sell, and they too will have been fed lies, just as we have. The fact that they walk all over us now, and have people like Waggott who take the piss out of us, is on us.

Nope. I was there too Callum and they were extremely vociferous in the second half. The official line is Mowbray IN. We deserve the club we have.

Let me save you the suspense. The fans will not force Mowbray out. Fans are more likely to force out other fans as the bickering in the stands starts. The “Tony Mowbray’s Blue And White Army” chants were long and loud on Saturday. The ONLY way he is leaving is if Venkys don’t agree a new contract for him - and I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.

It’s just typical Mowbray. As soon as he can he will meddle with the line up, or the formation, or the tactics. We can all put the ‘concentrate on the league’ spin on things but it’s simply embarrassing. Thankfully for league games the side picks itself but if he brings in a few new signings we will see more of this. WDL, rinse and repeat.

Why do you keep mentioning Davies? He was, pound for pound, one of our worst ever signings. Bolton did well out of him though. All the best with Armstrong. I think ‘gamble’ is right. Quite frustrating that PL clubs can now throw £15m-£20m at a player and call it gambling money though. Even more frustrating that, thanks to Venkys, we are now on the wrong side of it.

It’ll be very interesting to see how he gets on in the PL. He is quick and can score goals. The trouble is he won’t get as many chances as he did for us in the Championship and won’t have Mowbray there to give him game after game even when out of form. If he gets double figures he will have outdone my expectations. We shall see.

We will probably loan a Southampton youngster. Without a player in exchange, I agree with @Dreyski the actual amount is immaterial. Still expecting undisclosed at this end.

They really have no idea about making money from volume at Waggott’s Rovers. It’s all about the unit price and just sell it to whoever will pay and keep costs and innovation to a minimum.

What’s interesting about today is that the first XI picked itself and we had very few options from the bench for Mowbray to overthink his substitutions. We have often done well when that has been the case. Much now depends on injuries and what kind of loans we can get in. We don’t need more youngsters, we need some experience to balance the squad. We also need another CB, I like Magloire and Wharton but still think we are thin when (not if) Ayala gets injured.