People go on about the expense of changing manager but keeping this one will cost a few more million. Whether it's wages for frees or loan fees etc he's going to be spending something. Better just biting the bullet and keeping this squad, change manager and watch them have a good season. Saves a fortune in the long run, as long as it works out obviously but it's the same for any player he throws money at anyway. As for Holtby a good player but too fragile for this league, besides he's yet another who's thrown in and out according to opposition. Just to see that silly system end would be a blessing.

There'll be daylight between them and us next season.

Is that his age or the number of players he uses every 3 games ?

And since Mowbray's been here we remain 4 seasons behind them. I don't think anything highlights the sheer illusion of progress under him than this.

It would be no surprise to see them finishing above us in the next 3 years. Which league is anyone's guess.

The one and only summer transfer that needs to be made is Tony Mowbray and Mark Venus up the road.

Better run club than us simple as that. Not better funded, not really better players, no youth set up like ours, not as good facilities. Just better run and better managed and better motivated, it really is pathetic that's still the case.

Yep, seeds get planted way back then as it becomes likely he's off it grows and grows. Just like Raya, Nyambie is a younger player still with flaws and has suffered here from being thrown in and expected to be the finished article. Neither has had a good experienced player in their position to work with and compete with. 1 went from a proper keeper set up to being coached by a novice. The other has been dropped for teachers pet midfielder at times and rotated according to opposition at others. Both suffered for it imo, both scapegoats in the managers eyes and consequently some fans. I see it ending in a similar type deal sooner or later and if Mowbray elects to keep Bennett on the strength of that he deserves the pitchforks that will come.

That's why he was off somewhere warm until it mysteriously fell through and we picked up his tab. I'd prefer it if he left this summer i think if i'm being honest, better going into next season with a fit Wharton and Harwood Bells back on loan.

Brainwashed by these lot into thinking we can't even compete in the top 10. Can't go anywhere so the next best thing is to sit back and marvel at developing other big teams players for them instead. I wonder how many of these dozy plonkers will be paying in person to do this ?

Defenders are coming. If feel we now have the squad to be challenging the top 6. I don't look at the table or care where we finish as long as i feel individuals are developing. Bauer wanted 40/50k pwk. We keep losing but i'm happy with the performances. Accountable for what is said eh ? Hmmm seems a bit selective if you ask me.

Again i just think it provided a good excuse for him to rotate more than usual. Also when you've got players supposedly injured, out for a game then back a few days later then out again then back again it's a bit beyond the norm.

It does and that along with selecting sides due to opposition, who we are already better than has hindered us his entire time imo. It's how he's always worked though and this season certain other reasons added have took it to extremes. He must be the only manager this season who'll rest some of his best players, in games we need them, because he doesn't want them tired in another 2 or 3 games time. You carry a big squad so you don't have to do that. His mind must be like the inside of a bingo machine.

I could see all 3 attracting interest from top end Championship clubs if the money was cheap. There could still be a guaranteed 10 million including reduced initial fees, add on's and sell on's for those. Yes they are worth far more to us but a fire sale is just that. Depends on how dire the situation might get, add in Armstrong then there might be 20 million there. It probably won't happen but stranger things have here.

I'd like to see 3 or 4 partnerships allowed to develop within the side. Never really get chance here they are paired according to opposition. That's before any injuries knocks or niggles put them out. Then there is the rotation, another cat he let out the bag recently when referring to someone with the line 'it was his turn'.

Lenihen, Travis, Nyambie to start with. Like i said might not get the big bucks but a sale is a sale, with the famous add on's.

Could just be a severe budget cutting exercise though and don't forget the last one which started under GB lead to a fire sale. This squad is ripe to start selling now even if the prices they have in mind might be impacted by the pandemic. There's still a couple of years running costs could be recouped but it would need a lot of sales. If they've borrowed that money to pump in it'll need paying back at some point.

I often wonder when under this ownership we'll ever get full backs who can actually defend well. It was the same with Henley, really quick but defensively he never looked like getting to grips with the positional side of it. Or the cutting out of crosses and tackling. Then we have Bell who again is all about pace and breaking forwards but like Henley an awful defender. Nyambie is far from perfect but he's twice the player of these 2 because he's solid and can actually win tackles. I'm expecting similar from Pickering when he steps up a level and has to contend with Mowbrays systems. I guess flying full backs are worth more if you can invent one.

More to it than that i'd suggest he knows exactly what he's doing. He's keeping players onside, agents off his case, doing people favours and is able to hide behind 'squad development' when challenged. It's the perfect storm for him, we hit on something that works then go on a little run. we lose one then another crazy cycle of rotation begins until he hits on something else. As long as one or two players look like they are going to be worth money it could go on forever.

Not sure in what way if what you said previously is true. Trust to get consistent results and make us a competitive top 10 team ? - Fail Trust his judgment on signing experienced freebies who deliver value for money on their wages ? - Fail Trust him to fashion a best 11 and the team to grow ? - Fail Trust him to do as he's told, play every player in his squad regularly somehow. Fit in players others want fitting in. And just generally be their latest human shield ? - Pass with flying colours. Seems that's probably more than enough for this shower.

Just his latest goal post moving scheme this i'd wager. He bemoaned that we needed experience to blend with youth and get us into the upper end of the league. So they backed him with wages for Downing, Hotby, johnson, Ayala and the Trybull & Douglas loans. Most of those have proved underwhelming or made of glass. It seems that whilst that was going on someone has been driving the signings of good young players. Rumours of them advising against some of TMs experience signings in favour of youth instead. So now i reckon he's just switching tack and getting with it in the pursuit of youth. This has all the hallmarks of one of his little black book connection players. I think it'll form the basis of his summer recruitment. Young/cheap and known to him. He's a sly old dog.

Yes as long as the contract makes sense there's no harm in these type of signings. Like you say though once this manager gets hold of them it's just another for the revolving team sheet. I'd prefer to see a real plan of building a solid first 11 to get as high up as possible as priority. That isn't how we work though it's just chuck and chance and hope for the best.

Ryan needs turning into a good right back first and foremost. Far too much emphasis on the fact he has a bit of pace so is expected to be one of the main attacking outlets. Learn to walk before you can run the guy has all the attributes to be a cracking right back in this league. All too often he seems caught in two minds like his boss.

Do we ever sign what we need ? This is just another 'look Madame i can turn him into something worth millions' type. Meanwhile the top 6 moves even further out of view.

So Dozzelll is one these fabled job saving signings Mowbray has lined up ? Sounds worth a punt but prepare to be underwhelmed when this fella gets hold of him. Ten min cameos for the next 2 years whilst he learns how to play the Mowbray way.