[Archived] YOUR TEAM NEEDS YOU!

[Parsonblue]

1 hour ago, Dunnfc said:

Come on Parsons... Your usually taken back yourself when someone makes a negative connotation towards you still attending but you now appear to be switching on those who through there own beliefs don't attend. Make sure you get behind the lads and sing your hearts out though. 

Parsons, just because not attending doesn't mean your not supporting your club, I'm sure a few on here know the lengths i'm going to myself behind the scenes on certain things connected with Rovers, symbolic of my "support".

I don't see the issue in going to away games only.... How many critising the boycotters not attending Ewood bother to go?

Frankly i couldn't care less if we stay up or go down, it will happen next year under this regime. 

I find it staggering that anyone who claims to be a supporter of the club doesn't care if we are relegated or not, utterly staggering.

[47er]

But then again PB, everyone's entitled to their view and all views should be regarded with respect. Have I got that wrong?

Because calling Dunn FC someone "who claims to be a supporter of the club" is downright disrespectful as is taking his words out of their proper context ie it doesn't matter what happens this season so long as Venkys remain in control we will go down anyway.

Dunn and others think beyond 90 minutes a week.

[Parsonblue]

Just now, 47er said:

But then again PB, everyone's entitled to their view and all views should be regarded with respect. Have I got that wrong?

Because calling Dunn FC someone "who claims to be a supporter of the club" is downright disrespectful as is taking his words out of their proper context ie it doesn't matter what happens this season so long as Venkys remain in control we will go down anyway.

Dunn and others think beyond 90 minutes a week.

If you don't care about the club being relegated then you are right I don't understand how that is supporting your club. 

[RoverCanada]

Not sure I get the repeated reference to payday loans... The one £431k loan was at a worrying 14%, so it's worth keeping an eye on loans going forward, but the ones secured against the parachute payments and season tickets this year were 8-9% if I remember right, which isn't extortionate for a relatively high-risk corporate loan. 'Payday' loans tend to be 40%+, even way higher, or at least the particularly predatory ones.

Those loans have been in the accounts for years now...

[den]

Just now, Parsonblue said:

If you don't care about the club being relegated then you are right I don't understand how that is supporting your club. 

Dunn FC is talking about the bigger picture Parson. "Many thousands" (your commonly used phrase Lol) of fans have given up because they believe that anything happening short term will have no bearing on the long term outcome as long as balaji and confused are in control.

[JBiz]

12 minutes ago, 47er said:

But then again PB, everyone's entitled to their view and all views should be regarded with respect. Have I got that wrong?

Because calling Dunn FC someone "who claims to be a supporter of the club" is downright disrespectful as is taking his words out of their proper context ie it doesn't matter what happens this season so long as Venkys remain in control we will go down anyway.

Dunn and others think beyond 90 minutes a week.

You talking about being respectful is hilarious. 

[Baz]

Just now, Parsonblue said:

If you don't care about the club being relegated then you are right I don't understand how that is supporting your club. 

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

Any Rovers fans would be gutted if we where relegated, but many would take that tomorrow if it meant Venkys decided to put the club up for sale, because they feel (and who could disagree) that it could well be the catalyst to change the fortunes of the club for the better. It's hardly a opinion that is beyond comprehension.

[JBiz]

Just now, Baz said:

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

Any Rovers fans would be gutted if we where relegated, but many would take that tomorrow if it meant Venkys decided to put the club up for sale, because they feel (and who could disagree) that it could well be the catalyst to change the fortunes of the club for the better. It's hardly a opinion that is beyond comprehension.

I find it hard to comprehend how relegation can be anything but bad Baz! 

Even if the dream of "relegation = new ownership" works out, even though we all know that this is far too simple of an equation, third division Blackburn Rovers down to <5000 season tickets is a lot less appealing to any potential owner of any ambition.

I had to double take at the accusations of short termism. Living in a mindset of "anything but Venkys, and anything to get rid to anybody" is the very definition of short term thought.

The anger will only intensify with another relegation, and the worst thing is we may have a lot more woe ahead, with Venkys or without. 

I guess the question, or the line that separates opinion is if you can separate supporting your club on the occasion of a match from the impending doom caused by ridiculous decisions.

[Dunnfc]

2 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Bottom line is that the team - the manager and players - need support in the three home games.  Fortunately, there will be several thousands who will be at the games supporting their club. 

 

37 minutes ago, Parsonblue said:

I find it staggering that anyone who claims to be a supporter of the club doesn't care if we are relegated or not, utterly staggering.

That's another post now without you clarifying my comments further in regards to your first post, any reason why you've chosen not too?

The term "supporter" being used by yourself in this context appears too be thrown around rather carelessly. The term supporter derives many meanings, "Spectator" might be more appropriate if you are just attending games would it not? Other than games PB, do you actively look to "support" the club elsewhere in other capacities? 

In regards to myself claiming to be a supporter, i'll just confirm a few things which i think still makes me an active supporter;

• Past and presently dealt with various people within the Department of Sport in relation to them gaining a wider appreciation of the off field matters/fans views which have courted this club under the Indian regime, with that in mind it's actively purporting facts and plenty of research i have privately undertaken back to them of which they can question certain assurances previously given to them from the FA and seek further clarification on the interests and security/future of the club.
• I've commuted on numerous occasions from my North West base P/T and Watford base to coming up and across to Blackburn at games this season to participate in the distribution of leaflets for an hour then doing the journey back again, this has included meeting various fan groups in the evenings and replicating the commuting. 
• I've been approached personally by ex employees across different cross functions who previously worked or may have had ties at the club previously in some form to provide me with a better understanding of certain issues not just at the club but the governance of the game and as a result coming at personal great expense, days off work to then facilitate and meet or take phone calls at night.
• Liaised with a supporters group regularly in regards to helping them submit proposals on certain subjects of interest. Spoke to ex sponsors, and local businesses now being affected by the demise of the club.
• Initialized various ideas for things planned in the future etc.
• Willingly offering further assistance to many great "supporters" with there own research into things.

Now i don't think I have to qualify your second post further given it's in reply to my initial post which i think somewhat sums things up for me presently, This town of which i have no personal connection with needs Rovers, it needs them away from Venkys to enable it to recover. The local businesses and micro economics are affected, the demenour of the local demographic is struggling with the role Rovers play in the town these days and as you've seen yourself on the terraces i suspect the division in which has been created. Now if you think staying up will make this better then I think you are sadly mistaken, it's broken beyond repair and it drastically needs change.

Furthermore in my post you picked up on you forgot to reiterate the following below, which is core to my non Ewood attendance these days amongst it being a sad fact and feeling given I've spent several years as a season ticket holder previously and it's been the source of taking family and clients to games in the past. I appreciate like Chaddy if Ewood was burned down tommorow you'd probably still sit in the ashes waiting for kick off BUT enough is enough for me, i won't be made a fool off.

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Every year upon year you've seen mass sales, mass loans taken out against both BRFC and VLL and worse performances year on year after an even worse upon worse set of decisions being made. Focus on staying up so what i believe where nothing changes and we end up in this boat next year again.

 

 

[duggy9197]

As far as im concerned attendees attend,. boycotters boycott,fair weather fans go back to the woodwork,but its about time the fans of the club unite and sort this sorry situation out,messageboards wind people up,im sure on here we have club employees,supporters of other teams and just plain wums man up organise a proper meeting and lets move forward.

[AllRoverAsia]

I see that Rovers LT have successfully widened the divide in the fanbase. 

The headline of that article is a feckin disgrace.

[blueboy3333]

6 hours ago, 47er said:

No. I don't have to provide proof to someone who is just a wind-up merchant demanding proof when he sees an opinion he doesn't like.

Time will tell. And no, the future will not look a lot better if we stay up this year.

It will only look better when Venkys have gone. Otherwise we will simply repeat this season's experience next season as we slide down the divisions.

As I said "short-termism".

WUM? Because I asked for proof? That looks like the insult of a man with no proof.

 

[Parsonblue]

5 hours ago, den said:

Dunn FC is talking about the bigger picture Parson. "Many thousands" (your commonly used phrase Lol) of fans have given up because they believe that anything happening short term will have no bearing on the long term outcome as long as balaji and confused are in control.

Just as in the past den, as you know, folk have walked away because we are no longer a top flight club.  In 1959-60, the average home attendance was just over 27,000.  By 1970-71, when we were relegated to the Third Division, it was 8,000.  

[duggy9197]

well venkys have managed to get the gate down to that in 6yrs

[Mike Graham]

I will supporting the team at Forest and Wolves.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Steve1 said:

Can't provide proff lol 

Try starting way back with the first Pune statement of intent swiftly followed by the sacking of Allardyce etc etc etc up to now.

And its all because the Vs are 'useless' ?????????

OMG 

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, preston blue said:

I will supporting the team at Forest and Wolves.

I hope they are not too heavy

[JBiz]

 

Just now, Suhail Slayer said:

Its the clappers who are begging the boycotters to go and get behind the lads and the regime.

Boycotters are not asking the clappers to boycott.

Clappers please carry on attending.

I will carry on boycotting thank you.

Now I know who you are! 

[Dunnfc]

Why bother arguing Suhail. It's like brexit with some of these.

majority of fans have voted on Blackburn by staying away or boycotting

[JBiz]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

Why bother arguing Suhail. It's like brexit with some of these.

majority of fans have voted on Blackburn by staying away or boycotting

Giving up going because they aren't playing Liverpool, United and the like, isn't boycotting.

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, Steve1 said:

YOUR TEAM NEEDS YOU !

 

I totally agree with the sentiment but not in the LT headliner which I consider divisive and insulting to boycotters.....but not to those many who havs just given up.

[Dunnfc]

Just now, Jbizzle said:

Giving up going because they aren't playing Liverpool, United and the like, isn't boycotting.

Who said out about that look on page 3 you'll see why I am and it's nothing to do with that.

wake up

[blueboy3333]

Just now, AllRoverAsia said:

Try starting way back with the first Pune statement of intent swiftly followed by the sacking of Allardyce etc etc etc up to now.

And its all because the Vs are 'useless' ?????????

OMG 

The 'proof' asked for was very specific to a statement maybe by 'The Slayer'.i.e. that Coyle will get a relegation bonus if we go down.

Nothing to do with 6 years ago.

[JBiz]

Just now, Dunnfc said:

Who said out about that look on page 3 you'll see why I am and it's nothing to do with that.

wake up

I'm wide awake, you just don't want to listen (much like brexit thread..)

You said the majority of fans have spoken with their feet. If 10,000 have "voted with their feet", no more than 100/200 are genuinely boycotting! The way you put it, seems as if thousands are ready to come back the minute Venkys leave.

 

[AllRoverAsia]

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

The 'proof' asked for was very specific to a statement maybe by 'The Slayer'.i.e. that Coyle will get a relegation bonus if we go down.

Nothing to do with 6 years ago.

ok fair enough.

I think Coyle is due a relegation bonus too but no I cant prove it.

My opinion is based on the odd nature of his appointment odd signings and his general bullshit speak.