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  2. tomphil

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    Spot on about the keeper and centre backs they are the rocks that can help drive a modest team forwards or keep a poor one from complete disaster but clubs and in particular ours don't seem to look at it like that anymore. Nearly everything done in that dept at Ewood over recent years has been about players with potential resale value and cheapo stop gaps. There's been very little medium term planning, you need to build back to front not front to back or ran the squad with midfielders who can supposedly play in other positions.
  3. Bigdoggsteel

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    This is not true. Travis, Nyambe, Bell , Armstrong, Dack, Lenihan and Rothwell are all young and will be in the starting 11 next season. Butterworth, Buckley, Magloire and Davenport all made their debuts last season. Again, all young. The average age of our starting 11 in the last game was like 23.
  4. Jimbo

    Brexit

    Nope just a Tory, I'm sure BoJo will outdo her as an even worse PM given his track record so far.
  5. 47er

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    If we do have a wage ceiling its self-imposed. Giving contract extensions to players now sadly past it, signing players who were never there to start with with, blocking promotion to young ones with something to prove-----all of these have impacted on our wage bill. Signing a safe goalkeeper would be worth 10-15 points a season at least. I've supported Rovers when we didn't have a pot to piss in and its tragic to see us nearly back there. But we always had good keepers, some brilliant, without paying much of a fee. And we always had at least one rock at centre-back. Thank you for your complimentary remarks about my previous post.
  6. OnePhilT

    Aniket Jadhav

    Doesn't sound like the token guest is rated much by Mowbray. It was all just a PR exercise.
  7. Ewood Ace

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    Conway did a job last season really, does one half decent performance against Sheffield Wednesday class as doing a job? You really think every premier league club is looking at Dack? I highly doubt it after 1 good but nothing more season in the Championship. Perhaps 6 or 7 clubs that's only aim is to survive might look at him but clubs looking for more will be looking for better than Dack. Also I would say that there are numerous players around Dack's age who could do it in the Premier League, some of who I would say are better than Dack. I would have major doubts about Dack being able to do it in the Premier League.
  8. OnePhilT

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    You gave a good answer earlier, by the way - but the problem is our wage ceiling. It sounds like there is one. And it sounds like we have no hope of even getting the Bauers of this world, never mind those who have been released in this league.
  9. 47er

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    Find another Dyche and get promoted would do me. Didn't spend £7M on the entire team. I'd suggest Allardyce but they already sacked him.
  10. tomphil

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    There's a difference between selling an ambitious plan to fans of challenging the top 6, spending money that is 'already there' and signing first 11 capable players and then running off to the owners pitching something completely different so as to keep favour with them and keep a lid on their expectations and ambitions. One model is genuinely trying to move forward although granted it's a big step and there are no guarantees but the other is treading water to pay the bills and creating a comfort zone where the only thing expected is a good return on players annually. I don't think it's accusing him of telling lies to just simply ask which route he's really trying to go down.
  11. JHRover

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    As above I don't think anyone on here would deny or begrudge Dack a move to Man Utd or Everton, as unlikely as both seem. It would tick all the boxes for him and would be a step up and we would be powerless to resist. The trouble comes when we're selling players at reduced fees to rivals like we did with Cairney even when the player didn't want to go and manager didn't either because we fancied raising some quick cash. Just hope we're not going down that route again.
  12. OnePhilT

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    It's as much (if not more so) the supporters' problem as it is Venkys'. Venkys could easily plunge us into administration. I don't want that, especially after how the last couple of years have gone. If would rather continue as we seem to be doing currently than be plunged into administration and then suffer far worse owners. See Bolton Wanderers for near-miss.
  13. philipl

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    Smallwood in current negotiations to move to Doncaster Evidence of us hawking Dack to Championship clubs? I haven't seen any but I have posted about Man U and Everton interest.
  14. Bigdoggsteel

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    If those 2 are looking we should ask for 30 million
  15. Bigdoggsteel

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    It was competitive for the aim of staying up when you look at those around us Now getting into the top 6 "competitive" is a different kettle of fish altogether.
  16. Bigdoggsteel

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    Exactly. He will downplay it if he has money and so what we will have here all summer is negativity one way or another. It seems some are going down the "Mowbray lies" route, which I think is pretty nasty to be honest. The man has been great for the club and is miles more honorable than what we have had since Venkys arrived. The reality is that you have to tell some white lies and hold back some aspects of the truth when you are a football manager. They all do it, every single one of them bar none. If someone like Warnock did it, people would be saying he's a great lad who knows how to play the game.
  17. Sparks Rover

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    And pissed it up against the wall
  18. Husky

    Brexit

    I wonder if it was just a coincidence that the worst PM in history was an unstable woman?
  19. DeeCee

    Music Association Game

    The Who - I'm Free
  20. Mike E

    Happy Tugay Day

    Happy Tugay Day! A 40-a-day smoking 38 year old, who put the Premier League’s best on their arses by standing still. A man who only scored spectacular 25 yard goals, but made them look like tap-ins. Mark Hughes and Sir Alex Ferguson said if he’d been 25, he’d have been playing for Barcelona and Man Utd respectively. Frankly, I still think he could displace Pogba. Mark Noble was picking his all-time PL X1 and said: “I was young and arrogant and I thought, 'oh he's got grey hair, I'm going to get in and around him', and he had me on a bit of string for 90 minutes. I'll always tell people about that. “Obviously I love Steven Gerrard and I think Frank Lampard is one of the best goal-scoring midfielders the country has ever seen, but I'll have to go with Tugay.” More than a great player he was a REAL leader, in a Rovers team chock-full of International Captains. At the 2002 World Cup, he led Turkey to 3rd place, uniting a volatile dressing room of relatively extreme Christians and Muslims. I don’t think Rovers fans will love a player as completely as they did Tugay for another generation. Ask most older fans who the best they’ve seen in a Rovers shirt was, Tugay will be in the same bracket as Bryan Douglas, Ronnie Clayton, and Alan Shearer. Simply the best!
  21. JHRover

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    This is the crux of things. People appear to enjoy hiding behind FFP rules or want to throw them up as a shield to protect the owners from any criticism as though their hands are tied by these rules. For me if you are determined/desperate to get promoted there are two ways of doing it. Option 1 is to spend your way up - like Bournemouth, Leicester, QPR, Brighton, Wolves and Derby/Villa will have done. Last time I checked none of those clubs had been given anything other than a token fine for their rule breaking whilst most have established themselves as top division sides and are now laughing all the way to the bank. They speculated and now they are accumulating. Do do that you of course require owners with very deep pockets, who are happy to spend. Obviously there is a risk that if the spending isn't done wisely or if things don't work out then promotion might be missed - Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, Villa, Forest, Middlesbrough - and last time I checked none of those have been punished either, except some vague/inconsistent transfer 'restriction' placed on Sheffield Wednesday last summer which nobody really knows what happened and it didn't see them come to any real harm and they've since brought in Steve Bruce who will probably get them up. Infact the only club to receive a serious sanction was Birmingham City, who were safely secured in mid-table before a points deduction was imposed and the slate wiped clean. It's hardly brought their world crashing down has it? Option 2 is to do it another way - spend more sensible amounts of cash but within a coherent well thought out structure - Norwich, Huddersfield, Sheffield United - not losing money hand over fist but not self sufficient either. I don't recall Chris Wilder talking about signing players to increase in value and sell again - everything I've ever seen from him is about getting a winning team together and giving it everything for promotion. Of course amongst all the wailing about FFP rules there is the fact that there doesn't appear to have been any serious attempt from the owners in their bungalow on the other side of the world to do anything about it. Simple answer is they aren't interested enough to waste their time doing it. Birmingham's owners sponsored their stadium and training ground. Derby owner sold their stadium to himself. Other clubs have attracted prominent sponsors. We've done next to nothing yet complain more than most.
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  23. old darwen blue

    Music Association Game

    Free - The Stealer
  24. blueboy3333

    Summer Transfer Window 2019

    He came back last summer openly saying he had been given a 'competitive budget'.
  25. old darwen blue

    Swiss Ramble thread on Rovers' finances

    You leave the Irish Chaddy alone! 😊
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