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  2. JHRover

    Other Football League 2018/19

    Hmmm. I think Bowyer did a brilliant job with us. I have more respect for him than anyone at the club since Venkys took over for his work in keeping us up and turning us around given the issues we had. Could we have finished higher in those two full seasons? Possibly, but then again we could have finished higher this season or last season so really you can carry that on indefinitely. Things began to turn sour in his final season but I'm not sure how much of that can be pinned on Bowyer. Lets remember that by then he'd had Gestede and Cairney sold from underneath him, had been operating under a transfer embargo for several windows, was getting no funding from the owners and didn't even get to meet them in the summer of 2015. I also suspect the increasing involvement of Pasha from that point onwards played a part as he began to take more of an active role and its no coincidence that also around that time or shortly afterwards Bowyer allies in Shaw and Myers handed in their notice. I think Bowyer probably knew he was on borrowed time as Pasha wanted to assert his authority and bring in his own man (remember the rumours after the Brighton away game that he had been sacked?). Something was amiss from the summer of 2015 onwards. Mowbray is still in the phase Bowyer was in during his first 2 years - all good - owners who keep out of the way, send him money for transfers from time to time and don't interfere. If we make it through another couple of years like that then I might start to believe they've turned a corner but it wouldn't surprise me to see things unravel again the moment Madame begins to lose faith or starts taking her advice from different people. We're now hearing worrying comments from the manager about having to go to India again this summer to speak to them and 'find out' what their ambitions are. This after apparently agreeing on a long term vision at previous meetings and having a multi-window strategy, now he has to meet with them again to discover what they want to do and presumably seek approval for a transfer budget. After all, she lost faith in Bowyer or at least allowed someone else to sack him after everyone thought he would be secure after making them fortunes in sales. Why won't she do the same with Mowbray if we don't keep progressing or if she gets up on the wrong side of bed one day? I agree that Mowbray has that potentially crucial experience that a club like ours needs given the lack of know-how at ownership and boardroom level. A club of this size and stature with a vacuum of footballing know-how at most levels needs a proven pair of hands. If we want to go down the up and coming coach route then fine but we need to install the correct backroom and boardroom to enable that to happen. I think Bowyer did extremely well for us and for Blackpool and given time will do a good job for Bradford. I suppose he and Mowbray have had different opportunities in football management. Mowbray had a reputation as a decent level player, Bowyer didn't. Mowbray went up to Scotland to get his management career going which Bowyer didn't. Bowyer took over a mess of a club here, Mowbray had a smoother ride with Hibs. Mowbray got a good move to WBA in an era when British managers working in Scotland got moves to the top Championship clubs, which doesn't happen these days.
  3. Bigdoggsteel

    Ben Brereton

    Not the be all and end all, plenty of players have had great careers without being brilliant at heading.
  4. deryck guyler's spoon

    Academy & U'21's

    I'm surprised that Butterworth's burst into the box from within the centre circle and subsequent cross shot hasn't prompted more comment. Excellent balance, technique and no little confidence.
  5. philipl

    Championship 2018-19

    Given the way Sheff U took Hull apart, that might be 15 or more when Leeds kick off.
  6. philipl

    Rodwell signs

    Definitely keep. Promoted teams usually contain players easily too good for the level they are playing in. A fully fit physically and psychologically Rodwell will come into that category for Rovers. Rodwell is where Mowbray, the physios and sports Psychologists will earn their keep... or not...
  7. tomphil

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    Getting a bit fed up of comparisons to PNE if i'm being honest, go speak to some of their diehards and they are still envious of the set up and budget we have at Rovers. They still think we buy our way out of trouble, 7 mill on BB, funding a Cat 1 Academy and our overall wage bill fuel that view and compared to them you can understand it so I think it's about time they got left out of the debates. We've only been below the Championship one season in about 7 years and I don't think they can say the same so over all who is the more Championship set up standard club ? We should be as good as if not better than them in the bigger picture, i'll be expecting we should be next season.
  8. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Summer transfer window

    Or a Wes Brown situation. There must be a decent stopper type centre half in the whole of western Europe with looking at guys who are looking for a last pay day.
  9. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Other Football League 2018/19

    If Bowyer hadn't have been fired he would have relegated us in that season.
  10. Admiral Nelsen

    Summer transfer window

    Has a lot of what we need, but I'd seriously worry about lack of pace at his age. Could have another Gordon Greer situation on our hands. What we need is Lenihan mk II. Only trouble we have is finding one!
  11. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Ben Brereton

    I remarked on that after watching the " highlights " video before we signing him. Obviously he was in camera shot throughout a 7 or 8 minute long video yet he never headed the ball once. Pretty unusual for a striker even in todays football.
  12. joey_big_nose

    Academy & U'21's

    The only result of expressing opinions so obviously contradicted by data is the undermining of credibility.
  13. JacknOry

    Rodwell signs

    Really is a no-brainer for me. As long as he accepts his position is CM first and foremost but cover for CB when needed as well.
  14. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Summer transfer window

    You've got to be careful with players that age. It really can be here today gone tomorrow. Look at Charlie boy and before that Danny Murphy. One for the old timers on here - John Radford.
  15. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Bolton at home.

    Injured apparently.
  16. roversfan99

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    I would agree that even though promotion was still a expectation, it can still also be very much considered an achievement. But minor point, I dont think Prestons season has been described as "amazing" by anyone. They had a horrendous start where they ended a good 10 points below us, theyve been ravaged by injuries and of course recently a dip in form has coincided with their manager being linked away. Theyve been much closer to the play offs in the last 2 seasons.
  17. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    If we could have played for 90 minutes in games we might have actually been in the play-offs !
  18. Stuart

    Academy & U'21's

    I stand by my post.
  19. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    I agree about Nyambe, there's a solid right back in there, it just needs bringing out.
  20. Tyrone Shoelaces

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    Sunderland have been unfortunate in that Luton have been unstoppable. Shrewsbury last season started out in the same manner but ultimately fell away, Luton haven't.
  21. Bbrovers2288

    Bolton at home.

    I take it captain fantastic Jason Lowe wasn’t playing yesterday as iv not heard anyone mention him
  22. Today
  23. oldjamfan1

    Music Association Game

    Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - Free Fallin'
  24. oldjamfan1

    Fútbol, Le Foot, Voetbal, ποδόσφαιρο

    Sad news coming out of Scotland today. Billy McNeill, legendary Celtic captain and the first Briton to lift the European Cup, has passed away after a long illness. Given everything he achieved in the game, he remained a really humble, down-to-earth man. The word legend is often overused these days, but 'Cesar' was a genuine legend. A sad day for Celtic and football in general. RIP Cesar
  25. Boz

    Summer transfer window

    How about a Wes Morgan type defender and leader? Though at age 35 might only get one season out of him, but in that Kevin Moran/Tony Gale mould. No idea how long he's got left on his Leicester contract.
  26. Don Said

    Mowbray: Stay or go?

    Agree. My view - Nyambe could be a cracking right back. Great attributes and has got better season on season. His defensive positioning and composure, his original weaknesses in my view, have drastically improved. Back up would be nice - somebody capable of coming in to do a steady job as an actual right back. Bell might make a decent wing back but he'll never be good enough to defend as a left back in a 4 at the back formation. Really think we need to sign a first choice left back as a priority this summer.
  27. 47er

    Ben Brereton

    Tallest player but can't head it! Long way to go.
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