some of the theories on here are worse than QANON

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5 hours ago, Upside Down said:

But saying that we're nothing but a small town club who should be so grateful to be plodding along in division 2 and 3 forever is not positive. 

Those people are the most negative out of anyone. 

this is true one rovers fan i've seen on twitter has his location as happy clapper land. They took the club plodding along in mediocrity with falling standards, failing infrastructure, and falling attendance as some to justify further mediocrity and decline

1 minute ago, FE123 said:

I think Benni McCarthy is a possibility. Ticks the boxes of cheap and appeases the fans to distract from the real problems at hand.

He won’t be that cheap as he’s a first team coach at United 

There are a few rovers fans with followers past 6/7k on twitter maybe they could be used to promote some of the initiative for protesting, i'm sure one of two of them frequent this messageboard...

protests wont work ( doesn't mean they should not happen ) as they will not get mass support, far to many are happy with the venkys pay to keep the club going narrative and we should be grateful. Far to many social media happy clappers have slapped down anyone not happy some prominant rovers fans on twitter are guilty of this, but their concited smugness all formed part of that narrative of be grateful to venkys.  There will be people like me who protested before but don't have passion or fire to do it again. I don't attend games anymore and follow whats happening from a mental distance. Venkys will drag the club under before letting it go, the be grateful brigade have played a small part in that.  Because to them getting likes and being smug on twitter was more important ( whilst no doubt never going to Ewood )

From the athletic tonight

Duncan McGuire’s transfer to Blackburn Rovers from Orlando City is once again on the verge of collapsing due to a Blackburn error in registering the player, sources briefed on the situation tell The Athletic. Blackburn is appealing against the decision – the latest U-turn in an on again/off again deadline day saga.

McGuire was on a flight to England on Wednesday morning with a deal agreed to Blackburn, only for Blackburn to tell Orlando and McGuire’s agent they had to pull out of the deal. 

McGuire still flew to England and went to a hotel in Sheffield as other clubs mounted efforts to sign him on deadline day. Blackburn got back into the mix on a different deal, with Orlando agreeing to new terms.

Sources within Orlando City say the club would feel awful for the player if the decision isn’t reversed on appeal. Orlando never wanted to lose McGuire in the first place, but accepted his desire to push for a move and twice agreed to terms with Blackburn, including once after the club abruptly pulled out of an agreed deal on Wednesday.

As things stand, McGuire will not be able to be registered to appear in matches for Blackburn until the next window, which is after the Championship season ends this summer. In the agreed-upon deal, McGuire was set for a loan until the summer with Blackburn holding a purchase option.

What happens next is still being decided. McGuire can still return to Orlando, play in MLS, and see what happens in the summer.

McGuire was at Ewood Park on Saturday watching from the stands with his agent as Blackburn fell 2-1 to QPR. The club’s other deadline-day signings, including Billy Koumetio and John Fleck, were eligible to play.

“I am not allowed to speak about that case,” manager Jon Dahl Tomasson told media when asked about the McGuire situation following the loss.” I think you should ask (CEO) Steve (Waggott), (operations and management consultant) Suhail (Shaikh) and the ownership about the Duncan McGuire case.”

It was Blackburn’s eighth match in a row without a win. Blackburn’s last league win was on December 12, when they beat Bristol City at home 2-1.

The situation may feel like deja vu for Rovers fans. Last winter, the club had agreed a loan deal for English midfielder Lewis O’Brien but it also unraveled due to the club not filing paperwork in time. O’Brien, like McGuire had completed his medical and did in-house media obligations with the club before the deal collapsed.

Founded in 1875, the Lancashire-based club were one of the 12 founding members of the Football League in 1888. The club was sold to Indian poultry-to-healthcare conglomerate V H Group, better known as Venky’s in 2010.

Previously regulars in the Premier League, Blackburn was relegated to the Championship in 2012, then dropped to League One in 2017. They returned to the second tier a year later and narrowly missed the playoffs last season.

The decision to buy Blackburn has cost Venky’s more than £200 million ($252 million) and counting when you factor in 13 years of annual losses. No member of the Rao family, which controls the V H Group, has been to Blackburn’s Ewood Park stadium since 2013, when a senior member of the family was hit by a snowball thrown by a fan protesting at the club’s recent relegation.

1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

That’s not how transfers work in a lot of our fans heads. As soon as a club from a higher division/level comes in you are duty bound to arbitrarily find an example of a player of a similar profile that went for a similar amount and proclaim it a fair price. The selling team should in no way consider the impact of losing the player on the teams performance. The purpose of a football club is to develop and improve players for others these days, apparently.

I can think of a few who’ll be delighted at this, then get back to begging for an u21 pl loan so they can use wyscout to make them seem like messi, I think it’s a from Wigan thing 

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8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Watching my team play

so in essence nothing then, as with all due respect thats an incredibly predictable reply 

On 13/06/2023 at 20:26, chaddyrovers said:

Yes we all know Waggott has financial targets to meet but they are a different ways he could meet them.  

I see them as value for money as I can make every game, enjoy going to watch Rovers and its my only main social activity nowadays. Financial I can afford it easily. 

Please could you explain what would make the match day experience better?  

there are so many things that could make it better, from the PA to a proper fans zone, the stadium being maintained and developed, the crap overpriced goods in the club shop, rubbish beer, rubbish tea and coffee as well, i'd actually flip that back to you. What is actually good about the match day experience.

Here’s the thing with some saying good value, and buying a season ticket at all costs. between me and my wife we both earn substantially over the national average salary and earn good money. So affording one has never been an issue. But when your bills go up nearly 600 quid a month that income squeeze makes you revaluate , suddenly a season ticket isn’t appealing with the complete lack of flexible options. When you then factor in the poor pricing and food options for match day catering, not renewing is easy. If i wanted to go match by match the standard match day pricing isn't an incentive to then go either, the match day experience is rubbish. I suspect I’m not the only one that thinks that way. I’m totally disillusioned with Rovers they don't care about the fans, so why should i feel the same way, its easy to become disinterested.

22 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I’m not even sure they really believe it. There’s a reluctance from some to say anything that might be deemed remotely critical, they wear their “positive” badge with real pride.

I think there’s also an element of people being a bit flash. They want to make sure everyone is aware the money isn’t an issue for them to find, then they couple this with a complete lack of anything resembling empathy.

Spot on, maybe some or immune to the rampant inflation. Both myself and my wife earn good money. But out mortgage is going up over 300 quid a month, gas going up 150 quid a month. Somethings got to give and rovers made it easy for me not to renew 

13 hours ago, J*B said:

Incredible just how easy a problem this is to fix yet Swag can’t do it. 

i'd sign up for that instead my three season tickets aren't being renewed. For me or the kids. We missed so many games with them being moved ( we can only come to weekend games ). Do the club care we aren't renewing do the hell 

On 08/05/2023 at 09:55, goozburger said:

It doesn't look like the seat map is showing the true numbers. The estimate I've got as of this morning is 10,910, with 123 new seats sold in the last 24 hours. Again, this figure will also include existing season ticket holders that haven't renewed.

you can deduct my three tickets from there as we're not renewing!

6 hours ago, Miller11 said:

To add to what @only2garners has posted above, The Supporters Trust have also had similar conversations. Some ideas we’ve put forward include:

Entry level pricing - we don’t have a “cheap” season ticket, and some fans are priced out. It’s a big commitment for fans who have never had one before. The front 6 rows of the Riverside are uncovered, they should be cheaper. We proposed £150 for a season ticket there. 

Obviously that’s a limited number of cheap tickets. I doubt you’d see many regulars giving up their seats elsewhere to sit in the worst seats. You’d literally just attract people who wouldn’t buy one otherwise. There was an argument that “people will just move back into other seats”. My answer was in a 1/3 full ground, so what?

 

Flexibility - massive issue. I think there will be a larger than anticipated number not renewing this season off the back of the number of games we’ve had moved to evenings that people (especially those who generally take their kids) can’t make. Loads of suggestions around this.

 

Tied into this and the significant number of fans I’ve spoken to who’ve had a DD knock back, we suggested a “pay as you go” season ticket.

Currently you pay £40 to a finance company for the privilege of spreading your payments. We suggested a £50 membership/initial cost (money to the club) that then allows you to buy a ticket to any league game at a pro-rata price equivalent to the season ticket price per game, so around £18. If you want to go to all of them, you pay about the same as someone on a direct debit. If you can’t make half you aren’t wasting hundreds of pounds. You’d also get the other fringe season ticket benefits like access to away tickets etc.

This is from my own working knowledge of consumer credit rather than any discussion with the club… Regarding the direct debit function, the club can’t offer finance. They aren’t licensed to, and it’s a non-starter. I do wonder what criteria v12 are going by, as I know homeowners who have been rejected and people with CCJ’s who have been accepted… I’d guess they are looking more at current work/income status than credit history to make their lending decisions.

We’ve also had massive discussions around catchment areas and the marketing of season tickets the club do. I have to say the insight Fraser Reed has into this is brilliant from a digital point of view - very illuminating. There was an acknowledgement they needed to do more in more traditional/non-digital channels, as well as an acknowledgement they don’t have our strength of local knowledge and that was identified as an area they’d like some help. One comment was “the majority of our database has a BB postcode” which resulted in me literally getting a map out and showing them that that meant they could be coming from Rossendale, Ribble Valley, Hyndburn or even Burnley.

We asked for tickets to be on sale sooner. That box was ticked, but the issue of only having a window of one or maybe two paydays before a price hike remains, frustratingly. Personally I’m sick of deadlines and cut off points. Season tickets should be available at any point during the season on a pro-raga’s price basis. What happens if someone who has been out of work finds a job in September? They have to wait til half season tickets go on sale at Christmas.

We’ve also discussed a membership scheme on very similar lines to the fans forum, as an additional product and not a replacement for the traditional season ticket.

There’s a lot more I could go into and the Trust will be putting out Comms regarding this in the near future. We do appreciate any input though, so feel free to reach out. We’re also looking to expand our membership (always) and our board, so please keep an eye open.

 

edit - I should’ve added that there wasn’t any great expectation from our side that there’d be anything much this season. We see this as a longer term project, but id be disappointed if there isn’t something a bit more radical in 12 months time.

Great post, sadly I won’t be renewing with my two kids that’s three season tickets off the list. I know two others with kids that aren’t renewing. The constant moving of games as we don’t go midweek means my match tickets average to about 60 quid a game. With a massive increase in my mortgage it’s a luxury we have to give up. It’s a shame as my lads rovers daft 

6 hours ago, Colt Seavers said:

                Pears

Brittain Carter Hyam Pickering

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Thomas Dack Dolan

             Diaz

you have spelt Morton wrong, he starts every game no matter how ineffective or costly

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I couldn’t watch last nights game, I had a meeting I had to attend. Afterwards I texted my son as usual. His view - “ Good point but grim to watch “.

sums it up, we offer so little going forward 

45 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Agreed. Just curious as to whether chaddy has changed his opinion of him following his shocking performances.

not just chris i can think of a few others, who suggested a proffesional view of vale and his performances

6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

can anyone tell me what  broughton has actually done while he`s been here

signed Clinton Mola and George Hirst....... Oh and managed to get winger in when our manager desperately wanted a striker

19 minutes ago, bazza said:

Who's the dark fella in a cap sitting next to Waggot? Is that Pasha?

yes

Just now, J*B said:

Pure speculation based on hearsay but I don’t think this happens. I think the problem is we didn’t agree a contract with O’Brien in time if the future fee was activated. We agreed the loan deal and the future transfer obligation, but not the specifics of the player contract. 

the bit i have heard is he wants to come here and play football, but he's not interested in a perm move, i think thats collapsed the deal

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30 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

It’s utterly bizarre that a multi-billion dollar industry is still reliant on physical form filling in by the sounds of things. If we are genuinely still using faxes it’s completely baffling.

You’d think there’d be some sort of online portal. If there is there’s no excuses for missing deadlines.

thats what they have in spain, but this is the FA,EFL archaic institutions not fit for purpose