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Clearwater

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  1. I cant remember if i cried When i heard that he'd been hired The day the rovers died. Bye bye the premier league drive Lets be happy with mediocrity till the venkys are dry And good old boys will say stability was grand The day the rovers died
  2. Bad news on the doorstep wish we were managed by Pep.
  3. Different sport though, I agree whole heartedly that a golfer will call a stroke against himself and snooker players do it regularly. Football players do not, and scoring with your hand is wrong the same way as diving for a penalty or waving for a red card for an opposition player is indemic in football but Maradona is pillaried like no other player as a cheat, while in my opinion excluding that instant seemed to get kicked from minute 1 of every game and for the most part seemed to just get on with it. I guess opinions are like assholes everyones got one, we will have to agree to disagree.
  4. Number 1 my pele point was tongue in cheek my point was its ridiculous to say you cannot be considered a great player because youre not nice. I also never said wasn't a great player, the term is thrown about too much for my liking but by any yard stick they were both great players. He didnt cheat to win a world cup final he cheated to win a world cup quarter final. Its nonsense to suggest he should have had the goal disallowed, when has anyone ever done that? How many times has ronaldo dived to win a penalty or free kick outside the box (akin to a penalty for him) his reputation is not plagued like Maradona's is in the UK. If the hand of god had occured against Germany in that world cup I doubt you would be even mentioning it now. It was not his finest hour agreed, that occurred 4 minutes later.
  5. Amazing how Maradona was a scummy drug addict by Best was a man "tortured by his demons" In my opinion nearly all the issues with Maradona are down to that handball, which having been on the receiving end of Henrys handball to deny us a world cup place I would say get over it FFS he was a great player possibly the best and saying he had to be a nice guy to be considered a great player? Give your head a wobble thats just childish. Anyway Pele always comes accross as smug to me.
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