I like this a lot, although if we did sell Armstrong and made no signings, we'd almost certainly be relegated. Very much a catch 22.

Surely nobody actually thought we would? See Jordan Rhodes/Rudy Gestede/Tom Cairney for examples of what happens when Adam Armstrong leaves at quarter to midnight on deadline day.

I can give you the answer to this right now. Shite all. Not entirely his fault may I add, a lot to do with TM. But he's also massively overrated just because he can run 100m in a somewhat decent time.

So West Brom definitely don't have an interest in Reach then?

What a truly awful championship side that is.

That was truly awful. As bad as anything Coyle/Bowyer produced.

Send trybull back and we’re laughing

Bilic, Jokanovic, take your pick waggy.

Bilic is available...

I’m all for giving the guy shit... but was TM actually right all along and Brereton’s best position is from the wing?! Or has he just developed him into that? Still early to say on Breo but the way he’s playing this season is very very promising.

Problem is, despite the injuries and isolations, there’s already been 4 ‘winnable’ games at home, that we haven’t! This is as close to a must win as you could wish to see, regardless of starting XI. If Armstrong and Kaminski play then I think we have enough, if not... eesh.

They’re 2 points off second and thumped us for 90 mins ?

Has Rothwell touched the ball?

Feels in some ways like the start to the league one campaign, where we are blowing hot and cold, looking like were about to catch fire but then taking a step backwards. We found a way to grind out results in that league, playing the football that some claim on here is the type needed to get out of the championship. But in this league teams will punish us for being as sloppy as that last night. But then again, not many teams in England wouldn't have scored at least two against us after that defensive display. Good possession, pretty passes, but ultimately as soon as Reading nicked the ball we looked like conceding every attack. For what its worth, Reading looked organised and had 3 good players and worringly that's all that was needed against us! Set up well defensively and don't get a man sent off seems to be the tactic... Next game vs Swansea we could get played off the park and then it's Warnock's Boro at Ewood who will be the same test as Reading/Forest/Cardiff. We have to be looking at 6 points, but ultimately anything less than 4 and the pressure will start to mount (at least from the fans) on Mowbray. Still stand by my comment that our first 11 is good enough on paper to challenge the top 2. We ultimately won't, Travis was a huge miss last night. They're two nippy midfielders would've been on the end of a snapping challenge or 2 and then we'd have seen if they really fancied it, and we're desperate for Dack back, both walk into any 11 in the league. Ultimately TM just doesn't have it in him to get us there. But top 6 is and must be an absolute minimum with our current squad.

We physically can’t keep the ball without him. Hoping Trybull helps in that regard, looks tidy.