7 minutes ago, Stuart said:

Fascinating really.

Some kind of overhaul of the Champions League format is desperately required and long overdue. However, it cannot be a closed shop / franchise. It has to be competitive.

We’ve had this debate several times over the years on here and the best outcome seemed to be a combined ESL but with the lowest placed team from each completing country being relegated and replaced with the PL, La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 winners. Perhaps three from each major country and a single season for each of the domestic champions from each of the smaller nations.

That would be enough of an incentive for the top clubs, spreads the cash amongst smaller league winners, and would keep each league included in the European football pyramid. It’s the next logical step.

The idea that these teams can franchise themselves AND still be involved in domestic competition with their teams full of all of the world class players is absurd on it’s face. It would make a mockery of domestic ‘competition’.

If they want to be protected financially then they have to walk away from all other competitions.

The Football League could become a single league authority again in a post-PL, post-money-based world. Bring clubs back to the fans. Fewer televised games, higher crowds, more relatable to genuine football fans.

A pipe dream I guess but Pandora’s box has been opened and these clubs have shown their true colours and their true contempt.

In other news, I expect there were smiles on at least a couple of faces within Rovers management as they read their newspapers and shipped on their coffee.

Oh, and Jose is now available to take over from Mowbray on “Project Journey”.

Chaddy is against him coming - I think.

The clubs had to phrase their statement in the way they did. let's not kid ourselves, the purpose of the meeting of the 14 tomorrow is to kick the 6 out of the premier league. As Kevin Maguire put it the money that's currently going to 80-90 clubs will in future go to 20. There are a lot of snouts out of joint.

Just now, Mattyblue said:

He’s obviously furious that his employers have thrown him under the bus... Henry/Glazers/Abramovich need to be fronting up.

I picked up on that. He looked like he was shaking with suppressed rage during the interview.  Two managers have now come out 'first I heard about it was yesterday' - that sounds like a prepared statement that they have to say.

36 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

The Klopp full SS interview 

 

 

It's also on Sky Sports news, live

 Sky sports must have changed their mind as it isn't live on sky sports news

Just now, dallydally said:

Why would Klopp want to go to the Pie and Peas League?

I see him as a Pie and Peas guy. He'd be transformative in charge of Celtic.

Just now, oldjamfan1 said:

I suspect he's on more than that to be honest Chaddy.

I'm speculating here but I wonder if Celtic will approach him. It would be the biggest club he would get a job at now.

Could Celtic afford him? I can see Klopp going to Celtic.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mourinho ain't coming here full stop. Venkys ain't paying those wages

If you want to keep dreaming that he is then I would question your sanity

I would if I were Venkys. Sounds to me like you're not prepared to pay what's necessary to secure success. And yes, I am assuming Mourinho being here would guarantee promotion.

15 minutes ago, perthblue02 said:

Looks like Sam the winger project will be ongoing next season is TM is still here

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19243106.gallagher-has-adapt-mowbrays-wide-striker-role/

The mind boggles.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Really? 

Are you expecting Venkys to pay 6 million pounds for our next manager?

I've given up trying to guess Venkys expected actions.

Would you have Mourinho here or not?

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

There is zero chance of Mourinho coming to the Championship and Blackburn Rovers. 

If you honestly think we have even 1% chance of appointing him then I don't know what planet you are living on. 

I'm currently living on planet earth, but one day I hope to live on planet Mars. Who gave Leeds a chance of getting Bielsa?

54 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

no one said it should have a bearing on any managerial appointment apart from you and others mention every time we suggest Ainsworth for the manager job here. 

Ainsworth should be on the shortlist when we have a vacancy here. Hopefully very shortly. 

You previously told me you were not going to answer a hypothetical question as to whether you'd have Mouriunho here, because he wasn't available.  He is now available, would you have him here? Now?

Just now, riverholmes said:

I don't think you're thinking through your defence. This proposed economic coup grabs and reserves a bigger market share amongst a cartel, which will mean most levels of European football, especially, televised or streamed, lose out. 

 

I don't see the proposal as taking away any funding at all from the Europa League. As for funding in English, Spanish and Italian league, I've already said that I think the Premier League will cease to exist.

And now I'm into repeating my self.

I can see I'm going to have to resort to the PMQ 'Please refer to my answer previously.

Just now, Mattyblue said:

I’m asking you to succinctly, in one post, to put your point across to why this is such a good idea.

I've already said. I have no intention of restating previous comments. I see the tone in this thread has now shifted to try to provoke me.

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

But I wasn't talking about promotion or relegation so it had absolutely no relevance to what I was talking about. Which was that the Glazer's (who you were defending) have in 16 years never acted in their clubs interests only in their own interests. Although you seem to be keen to move away from you defence of them trying to move the topic on to first the NFL and now the MLS neither of which have any relevance to this story which concerns European football.

You mentioned association football. You really are trying to shift the conversation and then shift the blame onto me. You've clearly lost the argument by doing that.

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Because that is the US model. And US owners are now trying to crowbar it into Europe.

You’ve said plenty this last 24 hours. What point are you actually making from this hill you’ve chosen to die from?

Aside from your knee-jerk reaction, what's your point? 

I've got the high ground.

1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

So what exactly was you point when you were talking about the MLS?

That it was an association of teams playing our association football that doesn't have promotion or relegation.

When our football league started it was one league without promotion or relegation.

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

The MLS is a retirement home for those looking for a last pay day and the standard of it is poor. The MLS isn't even the best league in the CONCACAF region and the national team lost out to Panama in qualifying for the last world cup. What exactly is your point? Are you trying to say that all league should aspire to be like the MLS. 

I made no statement about the quality of the MLS or the status of the US national team. 

@Ewood AceThe MLS doesn't have promotion or relegation.

The current football structure is a ponzi scheme. It will collapse

@chaddyroversThis proposal does not affect the Europa League one iota.

Just now, Darrenbot said:

They didn't buy a Superbowl,the NFL has a salary cap where all the teams spend to the same limit.They just spent their salary cap better than other teams last season.

True, but fans of the other teams don't see it that way.

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

of course these people matters, its people like yourself who say they don't matter. 

Why doesn't Liverpool fans opinion matter, or UEFA President comments or the UK PM who can stop those clubs from playing here?

who are these teams? 

Which other teams apart from the Greedy 12 clubs owners have asked to join this Super League? NO other clubs want to be part of it. 

Why are such a big fan of these clubs wrecking the football pyramid and those clubs just get more greedy and more greedy?

Boris cannot stop it. Liverpool has a global fan base. 

Why keep asking me which teams will opt to play in the qualifiers? I do not know.

1 minute ago, Ewood Ace said:

 

They have owned Manchester United for 16 years and have rarely acted in the clubs interest. Their performances on the pitch have dropped, the trophy cabinets that were once packed are now bare, the once Theatre of Dreams is now looking increasingly dated and downtrodden. The only 2 things that have gone up since they bought the club are the club's debts and their own personal wealth. Your half right they certainly have their own interests at heart but certainly not the clubs.

I said how I expected them to act and quoted the recent example of Tampa Bay not Man Utd.

@chaddyrovers This proposal has nothing to do with the Europa League. PSG has access to resources that far dwarfs the rest of Ligue 1 and its reasons are spurious.

Just now, perthblue02 said:

Qualification? you mean invitation  

Invitation will certainly not be based on , on field activity and success. The inclusion of Tottenham as set the standard

5 teams under the plans will qualify from a qualifying stage. They will be the best of the rest.

Manchester City and Chelsea have also signed a 23 year commitment to the ESL.

I expect we'll find out on what grounds players will be banned from UEFA competitions.

@chaddyroversAll these opinions you keep quoting are from people who don't matter.

I've no idea why the other three clubs would turn down such a fabulous opportunity to be founding members of the ESL. 

Just now, Mattyblue said:

It sure has, though can you explain in a bit more detail how the Glazers et al are acting altruistically?

I've never met the Glazers. I expect them to act in their own interests and those of their clubs like they did with Tampa Bay by signing Tom Brady and buying a Superbowl.

If there are only 12 founding members, there'll be 8 spots open to qualification.

The 6 have no wish to walk away from our football pyramid.