i sit in the JW stand towards the Darwen end, and i have to say i thought once again the atmosphere was shockingly poor. the only time the home crowd was heard when they were singing abuse at lampard- the rest of the time it really doesnt reach the away fans. i heard a couple of chants about chelsea not singing, but trust me, the chelsea fans would have really struggled to hear any sort of banter. i have to say though, the ONLY way to improve it is without the drummers.

i dont think any genuine rovers fans actually want the drummer boys to be thrown out of ewood, just the drums. stopping drumming for one or two games here & there will not do it- please please please give it a full season. It will take time for the atmosphere to come back. no drums are the future.

same thoughts exactly- i really cant understand how they can sing that- i know a lot of the the Mancs don't like england but that song is just wrong from an english club. as for the drummers, I agree the personal insults are a bit harsh, but my god they are embarrassing. I would rather have the away fans singing "shall we sing a song for you" than have the drummers banging "du-dududu"- what is worse is MOTD & Sky always focus in on them. whats the bet that at the first home game, as the back of the blackburn end start "santa cruz is coming to town" we get the usual "bang bang bang- saaaaannnntttaaa cruzzzz"?

thanks mate, appreciate it- will have a bash on that later on hopefully. as for online- i set mine up yesterday and registered- i am "EarlofEwood" so it shouldn't be too hard to spot me got the updgrades (took a while though). i am away this weekend so maybe later next week arrange an online fest?

i think it is after nottingham. i think im going to have to set the PS3 up in the study for an afternoon, get it on line and get all downloads/updates etc set up. pain in the arse- which downloads would you recommend?

cheers, will probably go buy GOW2 this weekend. as for resistance, it definately is in the middle section of the cheddar gorge level. when i load carry on campaign- it is called "a Disturbing Discovery" Cheddar Gorge 12.20 am. still stuck and feeling stupid, ahhhhhhgggggg! as for getting on line, my PS3 is in lounge on only full HD tv in the house, whilst my broadband is at other side of house in the study. i have no way of connecting via ethernet, and although it is wireless is doesnt have a strong enogh signal in the lounge so can't get on. its p*ssing me right off!

cocker and the rest of the boys, can you help? i have a PS3, and on resitsance 1 player, during the cheddar gorge level i am stuck on a section where you are the edge of a cliff- the computer teammate says something like "quick, down here". It is an auto load bit, so when i start playing again i am stuck on that section- for some reason i cant seem to go anywhere- where the hell do you go or what the hell do you do? probably being stupid but for some reason i cant figure it out! should be on line in next few weeks for PS3, will let you all know my username to start whopping ass on motorstrom :ph34r: may well go and get GOW2 now after your recommendation- i take it that plays fine on PS3?

i will be going anywhere apart from Tel Aviv & the instanbul clubs really- just don't fancy them at all. On a side note- why d why did rovers play the feyenoord song at half time rather than before the kick off? quite a few lads in the BBE (riverside way) were trying to get it going in the second half. Rovers need to persist with this and eventually it may catch on with those that didnt go to rotterdam!

seems like everyone really enjoyed the super (feyenoord) rovers tune, that second half was quality going ape to that! i know copywright etc means we probably couldn't use it at ewood, but if there was any way we could, it needs doing!! Far better than the wild rover that they play now IMO also, any of you boys around the red light district around 3-3.30 am after the game? Savage, Bert & Pederson all came down the red light area, got sung at by rovers fans, but were more than happy to have pictures taken with the lads etc. Have to say they were having a good gander at the women in the windows!

we spent the entire second half singing and bouncing up and down, swinging scarfs like the rest of the masses to that tune.. do,du,du,du,du, do, do,du,du,du,du, do rooooveeerrrss, roooveerrrs! someone at ewood needs to use that backgound music and we can adopt it! fantastic trip, fantastic support. I know loads had problems with the seating not being numbered, but it was like a return to the terracing days and the atmosphere was superb.

tickets have arrived, block G. cant wait for this, we are staying in the Ramada citry centre- bring it on! any news on the bar for wednesday night-someone told me the ashes test is on too, if thats correct maybe a long night on the lash!

last night was my final straw with rovers fans- i have defended and defended us against every rival fan that slags our attendances- i get it consistently at work from city, utd, liverpool, everton etc fans. the difference is with bolton and boro, as far as im aware they didnt drop there prices. IMO, the club can do no more.

Stu- i was in a box 3 down from the fat Bolton tosser in the box (middle of BBurn End) who was consitently banging on the window and winding the rovers fans up. We put a formal complaint into the rovers- they advised us the police have it all on camera and its up to them what they do- probably nothing at all but i have to say i had a ding dong argument with him in the toilets after, and made sure he knew he was an absolute disgrace. i have no problem with away fans respectfully celebrating but he was 100% over the top.

its only the last few seasons its been poor- I remember that away end bouncing 92 & 93 when newell scored, and the few years after that. we used to sell this out all the time and we took a good following when Nathan scored in the cup. Not sure why it has dipped off dramatically? i shall be there though!

chris sulley?

This man is a dsigrace with those comments. As said on the capitain thread a couple of weeks back, this guy doesnt deserve to lead this club when he clearly wants away. What do those people who were backing his captaincy think now? Give it to Brad or Savage for me.

wasn't being a smart ass my friend, your reply read to me that the 2 reasons i gave for these lads (who dont follow rovers often) attending was not correct- and that they in fact were going primarily because we were playing a great european name in an meaningful game. That simply isn't true- the point i clearly was making is that there are a lot of people who are going to this one for few days on the lash in a beautiful city which is cheap to get too. These are people i would love to have at ewood each week but they dont have the interest- but they do for this trip. So the answer to your end question is- No, their answers are nothing like that.

sorry, i forgot you know the 16 lads i was talking about

i would think rovers will sell out out our allocation- i know 16 lads who pick and choose odd rovers games (a couple of them maybe go 2 home games a year, of that!) who are all booked on this one- none of them would even think about going salzburg or krakow. They are all after tickets aswell- there is a large amount of interest in the feyenoord away game more than any other purely because a- its cheapish to get too and plenty of options b- its near amsterdam!

This has been posted on roversmad message board- dont mean to alarm people but it is from a fan who went a couple of years ago and his advice may be welcomed? "Guys As a hearts fan I was a bit amused to see you got Basle & feyenoord (just like we did 2 years ago in the group stages). If you're going to Basle you'll have a great time. Nice place , everyone is well chilled. Nothing like a game in England. As for Feyenoord. I've been to games all over England & Europe but I've never seen anything like this scum. We had a pub load of fans attacked (Rotterdam police are a joke) and various others stabbed & slashed - including young kids. Big Ben Pub will be a target again I think. Rotterdam is not a place for the faint hearted - we stayed in the Holiday Inn and after the game the hotel locked the doors and we had a van load of riot police parked up for the most of the night. If you're going there , go in large groups. It's not a safe place. PS The trains out of the stadium are a disgrace : one to Rotterdam and one to Amsterdam (make yer choice , but get it right). I suggest you stay in Amsredam and get the train in on the day. I wish I had. Hope you shove it right up Feyenoord." Nobody should be put off going by these idiots as following rovers away in europe is a fantastic experience

not sure which manager said "if the player isn't interfering with the play, what the hell is he doing on the pitch?!?" but for me that sums it up. Please get back to the simple rule- if you're offside, you're offside!

sounds good to me :-d definately not staying in rotterdam, back on the train to amsterdam thursday night for a wild one! sounds like the trains in and out will be bouncing with roverites!

it should be away season ticket holders plus european stubbs first (salzburg & krakov) and then onto sale to season ticket holders- looks likely we will have at least a couple of thousand so should be easy enough to get one.

theres 6 of us on that flight too. bring it on.

i was speaking to Tom Finn yesterday, who mention rovers seemed to think they have a 1 in 7 chance of Rangers at home- apparently because of the way the draw works we can't get them away? all too confusing for me, just give us somewher in holland/spain/italy etc and avoid a trip to turkey/israel etc and i will be a happy bunny.