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  1. Interesting comment from Broughton at the end of his message to JDT "I hope we get to work together again in the future" - does that indicate he's the next one out?  However as Eustace is not coming as manager but head coach that is probably not the case.

    Anyway, I hope there is a change of results on the pitch, I'd be happy with some solid defensive work as a start.

    Ironic that the next two games are against Eustace's former clubs and a reunion for us with Mowbray.   Seems like we are in an alternative universe sometimes ......

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  2. So JDT heads for Sweden as national coach, they want him without paying compensation so this is a perfect move for both parties. I wonder how long JDT has been putting together his exit? Absolute shambles on the admin front but wonder whether JDT was focused on Rovers.

    Eustace has had some experience (particularly in the Championship) but not a long track record. The plus is that he’s in quickly, that also makes me wonder how long this has been in the pipeline. I suspect JDT has continued to make noises since summer.

    As a long suffering Rovers fan we will need to grit our teeth and hope for the best.

    Eustace will need some luck on his side.

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  3. Its a brutal fact that for most of Rovers history post the removal of fixed wages we have been a selling club, pretty much the same as at least 80 others.  If you're in the Premier you can suspend the need for sales because of the obscene amounts of money there but we aren't.

    Breaks my heart to see our young talent move on but my head tells me that this is the only sustainable business model we have.  The Venkys have been a big disappointment but they are still underwriting the losses and more importantly the Academy is still in production.

    Players have a short life on the pitch so it is in their interests to go where they can earn the most money.  I'm not certain about Palace but I guess there is a chance Wharton will play there rather than sit on the bench.

    We need some fresh bodies in and Financial rules in the EFL mean that our losses stop us getting anyone in without player trading.

  4. 1 hour ago, Waggy76 said:

    If Adam Wharton goes to Palace , I think that will be the final straw for many .... Certainly of my generation 55+

    Relegation for certain next season if not this !!!

    Chickens on the pitch 🐔🐔🐔

    Totally agree, hearing "Glad all over" gives me PTSD - I hate Palace.  Also it would be an awful move for Wharton - there are better Premiership clubs than that. 

  5. 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

    After this month, we have 18 league games.

    I will use a fairly low ballpark figure of £8m as what I reckon we could get for Brereton, less than the summer but still there surely will be teams willing to take a small risk at that price. 

    If we choose to keep him and expect an unrealistic amount, we will be paying over £400k per game, not factoring in potential injuries which would increase that further.

    It is horrendous business, surely we have to sell and sign a striker and a winger.

    Very good points, there are other things to factor in though.

    • There's a sell-on clause (I believe) due to Forest which will suck up some of the money.
    • Could we get a better player in that might carry us intro the top 6.
    • Brereton Diaz is still playing his heart out so I don't see his attitude as an issue.
    • Venky's play hardball on valuation so I can't see them dropping the price to £8m, bear in mind that January signings are usually overpriced. The reward of reaching the play-offs would also mean more income.
    • Finally he may be looking for a pre-contract deal with a Spanish club.

    One reason to sell him, on top of the fee would be the wages savings, like you said, horrendous business.

     

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  6. So we get a solid defender in Hyam, assuming he replicates his Coventry form in Blue and White.  Couldn't give a stuff whether he's bubbly and enthusiastic when he talks about joining.  He's a professional footballer and I expect him to deliver.

    Maybe he was moved on not by his choice but that won't be the first time that it has happened and won't be the last.  There seems to be a good dressing room spirit here and that should help him settle in.

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  7. Been a Rovers fan for well over 50 years and can't remember such an abject display.  The one that came closest was a 2-0 away defeat by Chesterfield which would've been 7 if we hadn't had a world-class display by Roger Jones.  The team that day looked like they'd been on the beer most of the night before (might well have been the case back then).  By the way that crapo display against Chesterfield was still miles better than against Fulham.

    True, Fulham are class, bang on form and facing 10 men etc.. - but that score could only occur with the connivance of the losing team.

    Crushingly saddened by the whole situation.  God help us against the Blades.

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  8. 1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

    Agree largely Roversider, however the evidence points to something else re your last sentence - as most clubs are reporting strong sales, the fact we certainly won’t be doing the same tells me there is something rotten in the state of Blackburn Rovers.

    A lot of those clubs (Blackpool, Bolton etc.) have a feel good factor and I believe have rebuilt their connection with the fanbase.  Rovers are emulating a lot of the Premiership where the fans are treated like cattle to be used and 'owned', not loved and cherished.  

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  9. This is a really tough one for me, after 35 years of season ticket purchases I relocated to Bradford for family reasons and found myself switching to Bradford City, not because I'd fallen out with my beloved Blue and Whites but purely to try and build up stronger relationships with my 'new' Bradford family who were all committed Bantams fans.

    The truth was that it was  a bit like using methadone to get off heroin, it filled a Saturday afternoon but didn't give me the buzz I always (even on the worst days) got from attending Ewood.  So, I found myself wandering back across the Pennines to Ewood, albeit on a sporadic basis.

    So will I get a season ticket this time around?  Probably not, purely on two counts. Firstly in the depths of winter it's a real drag to get over the hills when the snow and ice hits so I will of necessity miss a few games.  Secondly, my finances are now tighter since I retired and the prices for seniors are higher than I feel I want to pay.  That's probably due to me finding other things to do and spend my money on over the last year.  Rovers have ceased to be an addiction for me, I want to enjoy the experience and I've stopped getting the feeling I had when I was younger.  If the close season signings create excitement maybe I'll change that view but Rovers management couldn't be arsed to release the season ticket details until weeks after most other clubs.

    So no season ticket and occasional games on a match by match basis.  I'm no longer a Rovers addict, I'm a paying customer wanting a good day out.  I don't think Waggott has twigged that the world has changed, the pandemic has changed the relationship a lot of supporters have had with their clubs and tickets are now an option, not a necessity.

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  10. 10 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

    Worth noting that Paul Cook has won 2 of his 12 games at Ipswich so far.

    They've not scored a goal in 529 minutes of football either.

    True, but at the moment I'd have Jim Smith back and he's dead.  He was a proper manager though, I remember him geeing up the Rovers fans on the pitch at Turf Moor, loved him, Mr. Angry.

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  11. Ok, let's face it, none of us here know what is going on in Tony Mowbray's mind about the situation or what is going on in India.  We do know what we think though.  The truth is that Mowbray arrived and allowed the furore of the ownership to calm down, to put some happiness back into our lives with the escape from League 1 at the first attempt and seeming to show a way forward.  Whatever happens we should at least thank him for his earlier contributions.

    Now we are faced with a stagnating team and an unwillingness to modify a possession-based system, that seems to be due to the fixation on how the top clubs dominate teams.  The reality is if we were playing any of the top Premiership sides we would have low percentages of possession and get hammered.  The possession numbers work when you have players capable of doing that, both in terms of fitness and quality, it also needs reliable playing surfaces.  If you don't have those only a delusional character would believe that was the way to go.

    So we face a close season where the squad will be massively changing.  Personally I'm not sorry that a number of players are at the end of their tenure, we all could list out the disappointments.  We do have a flourishing Academy team and full credit to them for an outstanding season so some hope there.

    However the management are acting like zombies, shuffling forward, repeating the same words , getting the same flat, error strewn performances on the pitch.  Any team can have huge possession if they don't enter the opposition's final third.  I don't know how we will change the leadership but I hope we do.  A lot of Rovers fans hated Sam Allardyce but he knew how to get results.  Mark Hughes also knew that you needed characters with fight in the team.

    Tony Mowbray is a nice man, nice people rarely win.  There is a steel and drive that is needed in the whole structure.

    CHANGE IS NEEDED!!!!!

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  12. The planned European Super League is an inevitable extrapolation of the push to turn football into a Franchise business, that is a standard design in American sports with numbers of clubs kept artificially low and the emphasis on generating income through TV.  However this is distorted in the proposal unless they can drag in at least three more 'permanent' members, I think they hope that will be PSG plus a couple of German clubs.

    The thing is that they clearly believe that they can ride out and deflect any retaliation through the courts and they have the added advantage that there are no embarrassing fans in the grounds.  However, it's nice to see that Spirit of Shankly are getting their banners removed from Anfield.

    As an impact on Rovers?  The disproportionate earning power of the top clubs in the Premiership already bias the playing field.  Personally I'd like to see the back of all of them and let the kids who might have followed them play FIFA.  Clearly the owners give little attention to their UK supporters and look at TV revenues from the Far East.

    What retaliation could be done?

    Ban their players from representing their countries (hard on England but at least an excuse for failure at the next World Cup/Euros).

    Throw them out of the Football Pyramid, promote the top 6 Championship sides to the Premier and do a similar thing for each of the lower leagues.

    Ban them from any Cup competitions.

    Get the UK government to refuse work permits for non-UK players (what would be the business reason to support those applications anyway?).

    If that means that football takes a financial bath so what?  If that means owners have to sell off their clubs to others, if that means we will be watching a Rovers team of kids on much lower wages I don't care.  I only care if it drives Rovers out of existence.  Just think though - what incentive is there for the Venky's to keep financing the Rovers if there is not a potential financial benefit.

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