Yeah I’m not really buying all this ‘yes man’ stuff.

JDT was an outlier in the way he just didn’t give a feck and went after whoever he pleased - and I loved him for it. But most people in football toe the line as they want to remain employable as it’s a very small, who you know industry, so by that barometer 99% of folk in the game are ‘yes men’, so you best get used to it.

End of the day incubation periods taking years is what we have to live with when ‘potential’ makes up a big chunk of our signings.

O’Riordan the latest example.

Good grief.

Yes, the club has generated money, however that cash can now fund day to day operations instead of the owners needing to - it’s not going to be used for £8million’s worth of players coming in.

Oh Waggott said?

Fair enough then.
 

You don’t think there may be a fair few more issues at the club financially than two summers ago?

It’s always an interesting ‘what if?

They are certainly huge clubs who are obviously bigger than most of the PL, however it is getting harder to compete at the top end from a low starting point as Newcastle are finding even with an oil state’s billions behind them.

Well most of us do, obviously somebody still doesn’t.

Most Old Firm fans know they are miles off competing in the Premier League.

Being the saddo that I am I like have a read of their forums after their latest chastening defeat in Europe and they are always lamenting how far away they are.

If we can draw our way to safety then great. But if we do go down it will be too many draws that will have done it under JE.

(I’m talking about JE’s reign and what he could influence, I’m aware that the wheels had come off with JDT and he also would take some blame).

£6million plus part of any sales? So, say £8 million minimum?

Get real.

Didn’t know AW was a centre half…

Not sure if the ‘negative’ jibe is aimed at me as I enjoyed the game.

My point was in response to those that decry the quality up there, it’s simple economics as to why when a club like, say, Rotherham, will be earning more in TV revenue than Rangers.

Another post Covid phenomenon.

Will probably save a nominal amount on staff/admin on the day, so feck the fans that can only make a late decision to come.

Latest EFL deal £935million, SPFL… £150million, so it’s no wonder that even the likes of Rangers are full of journeymen.

So let’s hope there’s a new Sammie we can find out there for the buttons we get to spend if that’s the alternative.

At 29 is he going to do much better than a bottom half PL side?

I’d say he’d be happy with that (with the trebling of his wages too, so setting him up for life with his last big contract too)

16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I think you will actually find Eustace sees that game as a win for him and Rovers. Source is Elliott Jackson's podcast Arte Et Labore last week episode 

Does he really, that’s a surprise!

I don’t blame him for claiming it, who wouldn’t, but you and him certainly wouldn’t have been pinning a defeat in that game on him.

Anyway, it’s old ground now, so let’s move on, but nice one Johnno for what could prove a vital three points.

Because he isn’t really deserving of a start for me. Since coming back he’s been his usual technically good but lackadaisical self, not really what you want in a relegation fight.

Chadster really won’t let go of giving JE the Stoke game. 😅

End of the day it was three points, but not a chance JE would’ve been charging to the technical area from the posh seats if we’d have been 2-0 down at half time.

We’ll see. I can certainly see him rocking up at a Birmingham or a West Brom or a Watford etc etc… and JDT has already achieved more on a budget in this division than half the obscure folk these clubs appoint.

28 minutes ago, martonrover said:

We’ll see.

I think he might do ok back in Scandinavia, but I’m not convinced he’ll get another chance on these shores.

He was undoubtedly more sinned against than sinner, but you are right to say that he was stubborn, and I firmly believe he was cut a great deal of slack because of his persona.

If he wants another Championship gig I wager he’d get one.

There’s probably going to be 80-100 managerial changes in this mad division over the next five years - and this guy actually has experience of largely doing well in this league too, plus cups (until said wheels).

Terribly cruel to not start the same XI, but also very cruel to not make changes.

Tortured soul is our Phil.

No I don’t funnily enough… but too many draws can often send you down, especially considering we’ve burned through a heap of more ‘winnable’ games and now have far more ’on paper’ difficult matches coming up.

I’m stating the bleeding obvious but bugger everybody’s stats because we stay up he’s done his job, we go down he’s failed, simple as that.

16 minutes ago, M_B said:

If we get enough points to stay up he will have done his job, however he gets them.

 

Agreed, which was my point. He will have only done close to a great job if he accrues enough points to keep us up - and he’ll need wins to do that (the first one on Monday was very timely, let’s try and almost put it to bed with another tomorrow).

No prizes in ‘making us solid’ with clean sheets and not losing many if too many draws lead to relegation.