4 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

Surely whether that was a fuck up by us depends on whether he’d have still signed without a clause/if the clause was higher.

As shit as our club is, I think ‘the system’ is the main culprit in this case.

It will probably end up the same with Finneran (if we even manage to keep him until he can sign a pro contract) and may well have happened with Wharton had he not been a Rovers fan.

Fair point but if your entire business model is based on developing youth and selling for profit then your plan is badly flawed and doomed to failure so yes the club is to blame for the situation.

11 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

How did the club deal with Phillips' transition to being professional in a poor way ? 

Agreeing to such a small a release clause as 2 mill even when Philips signed pro was asking for premiership clubs to plunder. 

19 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

To be fair, I don't think the club had any choice regarding Phillips and the Wharton sale was driven by a court case in India.

In the end the club had little choice regarding the sale of Phillips because of the poor way they dealt with his transition to being professional. The court case was a nicely timed coincidence to allow the sale of Wharton without many questions. He'd have been sold without the court case as the club had let it be known what their valuation was.

4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Agreed. Needs to show some cajones and drop Pears/Walstedt/Hyam/Brittain/Gallagher for good and stop trying to be everyone's mate.

Fine in theory but to be replaced by? Thats a problem, we have no replacements

13 hours ago, all you need is duff said:

He wasn’t the reason we lost last night but Bobby Madley was taken off the Birmingham game and put on ours at the last minute because he supports Huddersfield who are a relegation rival of Birmingham’s. Doesn’t seem to make sense to then give him to another relegation candidate https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/key-birmingham-city-v-cardiff-28969709.amp

Odd when you also see that weve apparently got a Sheff Wed supporter for the Leeds game

17 hours ago, K-Hod said:

In many ways, aye.

But I do also think, those with an axe to grind with JDT deliberately overlook just how badly JE has done on the whole tbf.

You have a point but likewise the pro JDT supporters need to look at his record prior to going. We know there were reasons.

Eustace inherited a poor squad so he has a ready made excuse.

BOTH managers records in 2024 is nothing short of abysmal.

On those records alone both managers should be binned.

On 07/04/2024 at 15:39, Mattyblue said:

£6million plus part of any sales? So, say £8 million minimum?

Get real.

He is probably right until the latest problem from India means all cash is used to survive

23 hours ago, 47er said:

Fantastic game. Really proud of our performance. Tired towards the end.

A great advert for us that day. So  creative.

Until the subs that backfired badly, trying to shut up shop when everyone knows we couldnt do that under JDT

7 hours ago, 47er said:

We didn't bottle the big Cup-ties though?

I'd have said we did at Sheff Utd

On 02/04/2024 at 19:02, rigger said:

I would say the replacements for the position Szmodic plays are Sigurdsson, Markanday, Dolan in that order. None of whom have been played in that position because Szmodic has been so good.

I actually think that the one that would possibly be suited is JRC if he could stay fit

On 03/04/2024 at 09:55, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He doesn’t really have be dirty, he just needs to use his size. He needs a few lessons off Shearer. He was brilliant at using his physicality although he wasn’t the biggest bloke around.

He had the opportunity to learn off Danny Graham when he was here. He needs to watch a few videos of Mark Hateley or even Mick Harford in their prime.

15 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Denial of a goalscoring opportunity surely. The double jeopardy rule only counts if a genuine attempt is made to play the ball.

Clear penalty and probable yellow card but if the foul hadn't occurred and it had played out, the player had to control the ball then turn past Brittain and beat the keeper. It wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity and shows what a silly pull of a shirt it was.

9 hours ago, Upside Down said:

If you're in the box and you're not interfering with play then you shouldn't be on the pitch. 

Thank you Mr. Clough

Genuinely cannot see where the next win will come from. Soft goals conceded few goals being scored.

JRC cannot play midfield as he constantly forgets to get back in position when we lose the ball. 

People can look at stats but it is still no wins for Eustace. The only win being Johnson's since he started. Will picking up draws be enough?

15 hours ago, philipl said:

You don't need Jerome to find them a buyer.

I know of two potential buyers.

But you wouldn't want them at Rovers because the club would just be a feeder in an international stable of clubs.

But is that not what we are now in all but name? Wharton and Philips transfers case in point. 

4 hours ago, Upside Down said:

To me this season has all the hallmarks of when they deliberately relegated us from the Premier League. 

They've offloaded any decent players we have with only Szmodics to go in the summer.

They've managed to get shut of the manager that openly challenge, questioned and called out all of their bullshit.

They've hired a guy who's got absolutely no pedigree and an absolute yes man.

They've tried to once again shift the blame on to the fans.

We've been here before. Our relegation will be this year or the next and it is 100% deliberate. Just like it was when they first took over.

 

Also the same we the season we went down to League One when Coyle took over instead of Warnock.

3 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

Just trying to put a bit of a positive spin on tonight's game (extremely difficult, I know), my daughter can't make it as she's on holiday & only gets back tomorrow so my stepson said he'd use her ST & come along.

Now, he's not a Rovers fan (Manure - blame his mother!) but has been to a few games with me over the years & generally we have a good record when he comes along. The games we haven't won have been against prem opposition where we have given a good account of ourselves (Mourinho's Manure & Newcastle last week). His first ever visit to Ewood saw us beat Reading 4-2 with goals from Benni Mac (2), RSQ & Tugay.

Just hoping his streak continues!

Wasn't the game against Mourinho the season we went down? All things are alining for a trip to Wigan next season!!!

The simple fact this set of players are mentally too soft. How many times this season or last has it recovered from a losing position? This club has no fight so we will go down with a whimper there is no backbone. There is no one at this club you would want to be alongside you in a battle.

Everything Ive seen from Eustace just reminds me of Bryan Kidd and we all know how that happened. Just like then we have a centre forward who should be bullying opposition defenders with his physique but they cant wait to face him. Just like then we have midfielders who have no fight. 

11 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Is it just me or are all the players who left on free transfers after the owners turned down cash offers for them all Mowbray signings?

 

Nyambe and Lenihan weren't, they were already at the club before Mowbray

7 minutes ago, alex l said:

Ennis to stoke reported by Bayes. That's like an RKO out of nowhere. 

Someone on Twitter reporting it as a permanent transfer following his old boss to stoke. Usually dont believe but the person did call the yank fiasco first.

2 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

I hope that we don't invest too much money in this window from the Wharton sale. Its a terrible window to do business in. This is the biggest chance we've had to properly had to get some quality in so rushing that process with 2 days to go would be unwise. Realistically, this season has gone for us. We just need to make sure we stay up, which we will. 

We then need to have a proper go at in the summer window. 

I'd focus on loan deals to plug the gaps for now and then re-set in the summer. The US guy would be the exception as I think he's been on our radar for a while, so he's not a panic signing.

I dont get this. You dont wont to waste money but then suggest we bring in loans. I see the loans as the biggest waste of money of the lot. Borrowing a player for a couple of months, paying a loan fee then returning the player and your money is gone. This is not to mention there is probably an agents fee as well. Borrow 4 this window, borrow 4 next window at approx 1 million then thats nearly half the Wharton money gone and there is no resale value.

19 minutes ago, gazza1981 said:

Well the Brighton coach did call Moran the Irish Phil Foden . That's some praise.

And Steve Kean called David Goodwillie the Scottish.........means naff all

15 hours ago, rigger said:

I think the last point is the most relevent.

Actually think all are equally relevent as each other. If you know your keeper is weak on crosses you need to stop the crosses. This should be done by being organised and do some basic defending.

Coaching takes time but a defensive general who controls the shape of the defence will help but that will only work if our full backs are not being utilised as midfielders

8 minutes ago, rigger said:

I agree with you about Wahlstedt. What he is really missing at the moment, is self-confidence. I don't know what needs to be done to give it to him, but whatever is being done at the moment, isn't working.

A Kevin Moran type centre half who organises his back four, a pair of full backs who can prevent crosses coming in and a goalkeeping coach who can teach him how to deal with crosses would be a start