14 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Don't think Middlesbrough is in Surrey. Lots of friends down here.

Weybridge ?   Spent much time in Barnet ?

8 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

What about , Warnock keeping Boro up and then retires ...

Then ah presto Mowbray becomes manager at the start of next season ???

Anything is plausible in football..

 

Gibson won't go for Mogga again he knows what we know.

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Everyone should stop taking him on. His WUM mask has slipped (it was hanging off already) with the constant ‘soccer’ posts. He’s now playing contrarian with every single post and suggestion - and the posts are getting sillier, must be tired, not as subtle.

He’s an odd individual that is making threads unreadable.

Makes you wonder if he's any pals up there in smog land.....

30 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

It’s been tricky to be honest. Lots of digging in lots of different places! 

Their Twitter account will give you an insight into the players and managers on their books... I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we brought in Marcus Forss as our obligatory striker this summer.
 

There is a really worrying thread running through all our recent managers (Appleton aside)

Kean - we all know about that

Berg - Rune Hauge (the one who get banned for the dodgy dealings with George Graham involving John Jensen... another SEM man who was foisted on us. Hauge and Jerome were also both involved in the John Obi Mikel controversy)

Appleton - Oporto Sports

Bowyer - HSH

Lambert - HSH

Coyle - HSH

Mowbray - HSH

 

Below is HSH’s companies house listing...

 

Plenty of crossover with SEM. Several familiar names on the SEM filing history. HSH were incorporated around 6 months after Jerome resigned as an SEM director. 
 

Little more than a rebranding?

Like a few of us have suspected all along they never ever really went away something at the heart of all this is still at play and it's more than mere advice.

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

Warnock is an old man who is heading for  a second successive relegation unless the 12 point deduction rule gets him off the hook. Should call it a day whilst people still hold him in high regard.

But an old man who goes in practically part time and gets a couple of clubs promoted. Does he take all his mates ?  Does he buy drones and employ pilots ?   Or does he just go in with a target in mind, shake things up and try and deliver then if not is happy to fall on his sword.

Will Tony be in such demand in 15 years time ?

12 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

Pulis is far more anti-football than Allardyce ever was. And MGP had a lot more about him than did Rory Delap.

Yes his past record may eclipse Mowbray's, but you also accept his best days are behind him. That doesn't bode well for our next appointment.

I'll be honest at this juncture i wouldn't want Pulis i think he'd be just as infuriating as Mowbray with stuff on the pitch and in no way is the squad suitable for his football.

10 games into next season i could very well be screaming out for him though.

47 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

I want to see Bennett, Williams, Mulgrew, Smallwood et al, a good mullering and TM sacked.

Sorry just thinking out loud. ?

Next season i want to see a pair of knackers grown and Bennett the first name on the .......bench being the utility BACK UP he should be. Mulgrew sent anywhere to get some wages back, Smallwood sent to Coventry where he belongs. 

Don't mind Del he'd be next to Bennett on the bench.

There is a 100% more chance of them all starting in the first game next season than what iv'e just said. These lot are the main stays of Mowbrays squad.

Tomorrow night play the u23's

Cardiff  0   Rovers  3  

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

Behave! You’ve can’t have spent much time in football grounds or indeed with other fans generally if you thing supporters don’t also vent - they do because they care!

(Though you probably know that all too well and you are just performing your usual trolling routine)

One of the best things that happened to Mowbray and most of this squad is when the fans in Ewood for the first game in League 1 gave them pelters.  ( You know the loyal paying fans who'd stuck with the club all 11k plus of them a very healthy gate for lge 1. Can't even get that many very often this season which tells its own story zzzz )

That day he was trying to play a new brand of football that those he turned out on the pitch couldn't cope with and the tempo was slow it was abysmal. After that he changed tack again to something more resembling a team and we began to do ok.

It gave them all the kick up the backside they needed and i think they need that every now and again because he has the team in a bloody coma sometimes. Had they not been made to know in no uncertain terms to wake up and get a grip iv'e no doubt he'd have persisted with that formation until it had us with no wins in 10 !

5 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

What's soccer?

Ignore it does it on purpose it's a total crank case.

1 minute ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Supporters support - not vent

Hark the super fan we bow in your presence.

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

"We'll support you evermore "

Maybe paying fans are entitled to vent their frustration ?

Just now, Mashed Potatoes said:

Post it as I see it - been right so far.

About what ?

You're in your own echo chamber. If you're in the know tell us otherwise you'll be taken with a pinch of salt like the rest of us.

2 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Ridiculous

Why ? Fans are clearly being cheated again if that kind of thing happens it's s piss take and a hark back to the recent 'bad old days'.

11 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Phil Brown, like Owen Coyle before him, is the future - even for those in denial.

Phil Brown is too old they prefer the younger end.

Mowbray was far and away the most experienced they've gone for after realising their gambles on younger ones was misguided. He was only about 52 Brown is 61.

Not happening but keep scaremongering it suits you.

1 hour ago, Ewood Ace said:

Mowbray's own personal target was 70 points and he is going to fall short of that. He seems to be teflon and must have the easiest job in football. Seemingly no pressure on him, brings his mate in as CEO, gives contracts to all his favourites and spins the clueless uninterested owners a few line of how rosy everything is. It honestly does seem like he has the job for as long as he wants it and he knows it.

One of the best jobs in football he seems to get whatever he asks for.

It's about time they asked for a proper stab at the top 6 in the not too distant future.

That lad is the clubs new spin doctor methinks.

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

The way we allowed Wigan to walk away with the number 1 spot when we got promoted spoke volumes for me. Chances like that come along once or twice a generation if you're lucky.

I'm coming around to the conclusion that the " Chicken Chokers " end game is to demoralise and reduce the fan base to such a point that they can wrap the club up and there won't be enough people left to make a fuss. Look at Bury.

Said it half a dozen times before but if going into these last few games Mowbrays arse was on the line they'd have all come out fighting on the front foot. It's a good bet we'd have taken 3 to 9 points we've seen it before but we always see too much of is the tepid stuff we even saw it fighting relegation.

There was no pressure on them after the lockdown just a case of lets go all guns blazing to win as many as we can and see were we end up. What we've seen since we caught Bristol cold is akin to pre season stuff, tap it about and get as many involved as possible.  Really got me angry that more than anything Mowbray says or even his persistence with the nonsense with Gallagher.

Actions speak louder than words and what we've seen speaks volumes about the lack of urgency running through the whole camp.

28 minutes ago, den said:

Rothwell hasn’t had the edge taken off, he’s just never really had it. Yes he has ability but hasn’t yet applied it with any consistency and that’s no good to anyone.

I thought we were on about Travis ?

I want to see him become the all action dynamic midfielder he looks capable of not be turned into the next Lowe.

I agree on Rothwell i don't think this level suits him at all but on the subject of both players i want to see manager and coaches up off the bench encouraging and hollering at them to do the things they do well.  

Souness was good at that sort of thing.

7 minutes ago, den said:

He’s the same as any other player tomphil. They have a job to do and a function within the team to fulfill in order to benefit the whole team. If he can’t do that he won’t ever advance himself in the game. That’s what’s happening. 

Certain managers get hold of a talent and harness it others immediately try and take the edges off but sometimes it's the edges that make that player a bit different.

We've seen it all before both sides of the coin.

56 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It's the football on display most of the time that does my head in. Dull, uninspiring, unimaginative, boring, tedious, gutless, I could fill a page with similar adjectives but they would all equally apply to the manager as well. For me football is there to get your blood racing and your heart pounding, it's to send you home with excitement coursing through your body. At the moment it's more likely to send you to sleep. Do they not realise they're supposed to be part of the " entertainment Industry " ?

When we keep going on long winless runs anyway i don't see why he's so risk averse to just having a go. The last 3 games sums it all up for me.

He says we probably aren't at that top 6 level yet and he's right but neither are Preston and a host of other clubs but somebody will take those spots. I'd ask is he at that level himself in terms of ambition and balls ?

It doesn't look like it and on another note i'm sure a 12 million injection over 2 summers would transform a few into being there. 

All you ask as a fan is that he and they fight tooth and nail for the prize when it's in touching distance.

He's a fearless young player with a bit of drive. That gets drummed out if them in favour of becoming a water carrier. It's the way these days in this league.

His strengths and his blind spots just about balance each other out i think and that reflects itself in the league positions and transfer business. Any real internal pressure and i think he'd crumble pretty quickly just cast the minds back to that horrendous run when he was whinging about being ( 1.5 hrs ) away from his family and having 2 week breaks etc.

It almost sounded like he wanted sacking sometimes to be put out of his misery he definitely looked like he needed a break. Also lets not forget how much he and Waggot have convinced them to spend on the infrastructure recently.  There's the alleged new scouting network and they employ people to sit in offices watching players then they employ people to fly drones around the training pitch filming everything. There's probably a host of other stuff as well.

Make no mistake these lot are costing the club a lot of money on top of the transfer fees yet we aren't seeing any bang for the bucks really yet. Sooner or later surely he's going to get pulled up on it.

I think he might be about to go from coasting it to having a very difficult job next season given what may happen with the covid fall out and budgets etc.

We'll see what the cosy jobs for the boys club he seems to rely so heavily on is really made of. The loss of a couple of top players like Dack & Armstrong, the absence of any luxury style loaness and the inability financially to bring much in other than freebies and lower end loans would there be enough in what he's 'built' to even make midtable ?

That's how flimsy it is if you break it down, at present we remain one step away from being a really good side - a good reliable striker would have made all the difference these past few games, or a younger Danny Graham.

Yet we are also one step away from potentially being a really struggling one.  We need the bean counters to find the Boris magic money tree this summer as much as ever. 

56 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Well that £12m + wages is going to define his time here. It'll be the reason we have to sell promising players and why we haven't been able to reinforce areas of weakness.

True but if he sold 12 million worth of players he's covering his mistakes somewhat financially and in their eyes that'll probably earn him more kudos. 

5 hours ago, RoverDom said:

Holloway, he's nutty enough for the venkys to like.

Came, had a listen and fooked off again.

One of the most overated managers of modern times though so nowt lost i don't think.