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  1. Agree definitely need to focus on the young fans but that's difficult because they've taken all the craic out of it for some. Shutting the DE where youth liked to gather and have banter with away fans is a dropped bollock in that. They aim more for the young kids and families but they just don't seem to want the hassle of youth at Ewood.

    Should reopen the DE lower and make a section for 500 16-21 year olds and let it catch on Rovers is the place to be on a Sat afternoon not stood in the town centre or hanging around the streets. To do that they'd have to make it affordable and cater for them on that concourse food, drink, music wise etc. Yes there'd be some dick heads but there always has been yet other clubs seem to handle it, i'll repeat again our lot don't want the bother.

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  2. The circus for corporate gain and media publicity has been tried, tested and failed here and has led us to where we are.

    Thinking out of the box is one thing we've never done for 30 years since when Jack did it as he took over. It'll never happen now though previous regimes have only had their own interests at heart and pocketing the club/owners cash. This present one has got itself far too comfortable to rock any boat and threaten that. Even John Williams lost his bottle as time went on not backing Hughes towards the end then Big Sam when he wanted to recreate some of his Bolton days.

     

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  3. 29 minutes ago, Tom said:

    If it means next season is more likely to happen then I’m leaning towards agreeing with scrapping this season, the bonus of Liverpool not winning the title also helps.

    I think especially because it’s Liverpool though all stops will be pulled out to ensure they have officially won it

    As always in rip off Britain money will come first so they'll find a way to fit the Prem in. Championship in wages terms if not football or profile is quicky becoming Prem 2 so that'll follow.

    The only safe sensible thing to do is write it off then go again next season starting when it's safe to do so, even if a few months have to be done behind doors. Not being able to crow about Liverpool winning it and maybe even Leeds getting promoted will make many in power do their utmost to get it on again.

    Get those cheques in the bank first and foremost !

  4. The common sense approach in the best public interest for peoples health and safety, footballers etc included would be to write it off and start afresh late summer/early autumn. When we can see if this thing is finally under control and not a moment before, that's what matters. Even if they have to do the first half of next season behind closed doors or severely restricted numbers.

    Otherwise just leave this season till August and finish it behind closed doors for the sake of sporting rivalry to sort out all the champs/ups and downs. Then have a mini season where reduced games just playing each other once or split North & South lges. Instead of ups and downs maybe offer a points bonus to take into the next proper season. 

  5. Football Without Fans.....

    If SKY can sell it and people will watch it they'll be all over it make no mistake. Could be the start of a whole new ball game, games kicking off at 5pm weekday evenings or Saturday morning 10 am.

    They want to fill potentially popular viewing slots not stadiums.  News at 10 or Liverpool v Spurs anyone ?

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  6. 1 hour ago, Oldgregg86 said:

    The cynic in me says how long before the snakes take back control and it’s business as usual and all this is quickly forgotten 

    They'll be cooking up already the best way to exploit what's left. They'll have suffered as well, some might even have to try and earn an honest wage now.

  7. 52 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

    I'll argue that the rot started the day Dalglish went upstairs. Harford was a great coach but never a number 1. I was surprised that he lasted so long. Rovers should have gone all out in the summer of 1995 by buying 3 or 4 quality internationals and securing a top manager. Jack Walker's loyalty got the better of him.

    Having said that I agree with you that Hodgson did contribute. Here are all his signings;

    17 June 1997

    DF

    Stéphane Henchoz

    24 June 1997

    DF

    Patrick Valéry

    8 July 1997

    FW

    Martin Dahlin

    8 July 1997

    FW

    Anders Andersson

    1 August 1997

    GK

    John Filan

    8 September 1997

    DF

    Tore Pedersen

    10 September 1997

    GK

    Alan Fettis

    10 February 1998

    DF

    Callum Davidson

    21 May 1998

    MF

    Jimmy Corbett

    9 July 1998

    FW

    Kevin Davies

    21 August 1998

    DF

    Christian Dailly

    26 October 1998

    MF

    Oumar Kondé

    30 October 1998

    FW

    Nathan Blake

    One of the best players he signed in my opinion was Perez for about 3 million but he didn't know what to do with him so another wasted.

  8. 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

    I'd argue that given the circumstances his signings record was the worst of any Rovers manager. All that money and only Henchoz was a success.

    I read an article in my paper years ago were Jim Smith was being interviewed. Regarding the Dailly signing he said a little bird had told him Rovers were sniffing around so he'd discussed a possible fee with his directors. The chairman had told him " Not a penny less than £2 million Jim ". He nearly fell off his chair when Roy Boy came straight out and offered £5 million !  Even then he talked the fee up another £250K !

    The guy really didn't know the British market at all i remember the Dailly thing. Hodgson came out with something on the lines of iv'e seen a player today who i think would be great for us but will cost a lot of money. After we'd played them first game of the season, then up pops Dailly for about 5 million.

    Him, Blake for about 4.5, Davies 7 million plus a few others so yes the worse business of any manager at Ewood with money to spend. Absolutely terrible in fact as even the vastly inexperienced Kidd got some quality in with the money he had. Awful as he was he still had to carry the can for a lot of Roys bad work.

  9. 1 hour ago, speeeeeeedie said:

    I'll not get this messageboard in trouble posting unproven allegations but if you look at the way Hendry's life has unfolded since it explains a lot of the rumours. As renrag said; Hendry had signed a new contract then left shortly thereafter for a hefty fee - which would have included a nice signing bonus, and his Rovers contract being paid up. That's lots of cash in a short period of time. Some people need money quickly, others don't.

    He signed some dross, but I also wonder what else caused his demise. Rovers were flying when he first started but it didn't last long. He only lost 2 of his first 20 league games, one of which as at Old Trafford. His 1998 was awful. 31 games in charge, 19 losses, 7 wins.

    I'll guess that players weren't used to his methods. Back then he was ahead of his time. I'll wager that what he learned in Europe around concentrating on fitness and diet as well as tactical discipline caused a mutiny.  I

    I think some of his big money crap signings were the biggest reason. I've heard some of the established stars were less than impressed by what he was bringing in.

    As for the other side of it it's true his methods were different. They got a good response in the beginning with some of the best football and fittest looking Rovers players I've seen. They couldn't keep it up though and he couldn't seem to put his finger on what was needed so just flogged them harder. Then he started desperately throwing the money about as plan b.

    Started a lot of long lasting rot that did.

  10. Watching those highlights back in the morning gets the blood pumping for the rest of the day. Not difficult to see what's missing now when you look at the passion in that on the pitch in the stands and in the dugout. You used to get exciting 1-1 even 0-0 end to end draws whereas now from the first min it seems all about cancelling each other out.

    Down the past ten years football and this club in particular has been sanitised and strangled to death footballs played on a whiteboard in managers offices. What happens on the pitch is just going through the motions too often and being happy with narrow defeats because we can 'take the positives' into the next game and on and on.

    Give me some blood and thunder anyday over attempts at tippy tappy sideways and backwards to keep stat obsessed managers and coaches happy. Look at Parkes and McKay in the dugout railroading players to get back into position. The players themselves seeming pissed off every time there's a loose ball of missed shot and letting each other know about it.

    Non of this head down, walk back shoulder shrugging.

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  11. 30 minutes ago, Blue blood said:

    I had that fear too. 

    After the Sunderland til I die documentary I have a lot more time for the guy as a bloke. He seems like a good person. 

    It did however confirm as a keeper he is comfortably the worst I have seen at Ewood. 

    I agree he seems a sound lad and when he first came after a bad start he settled a bit under keeper coach John Keeley. Soon as he left he seemed to go backwards rapidly. In truth he fit the GB stereotype, nice lad, possibly a bit of potential but in the end too many weaknesses and needed feeding a bit more red meat.

    Bad time to go to Sunderland though but very poor signing from Graysons point of view but did us a favour. I'm sure Steele would be more comfortable at a plodding lge 1 club as no 1 regular.

  12. 1 hour ago, renrag said:

    We were sat in the front row of the stand and it was scary watching the crowd packed in below us. There was a dad standing just below,  with his very young son on his shoulders. I was able to reach over for the dad to pass the boy up, where he was able to stand safely in front of us for the full match. I can say there was a very relieved father taking his son back at the end of the game. There must have been a high proportion of Rovers fans there, because the rest of the ground seemed half empty

    Think Stoke only averaged about 6 to 8k at the time. Crowd was probably about 14 thousand so not far off half the gate might be a fair estimate.

    Sounds funny looking back but I'll admit as a skinny teen it was a bit scary at the time in there.

  13. 39 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

    There was a fair bit of aggro that day as I recall. 

    Remember being in that side at Stoke packed in so tight from about tens mins before kick off my feet were off the ground as they swayed forwards, backwards and sideways, i'm 6ft ?

    God knows how many were actually in there but it must've been way over capacity and it was very tasty afterwards. Always was down there around then though.  Think we played quite well that day but contrived to cock it up i think they just ran out of steam it was a hell of a run. To not go up after half a season unbeaten is gutting in itself never mind the dreaded play offs.

    Great times though.

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  14. I'd say what comes out of all this mess is just the type of job suited to TM.  

    Probably a small squad decimated by sales and loans going back will leave gaps to be plugged by whatever we have and can scrabble about for through the little black book.  Aim, survive in midtable rotating what you have, keeping your fav squaddies with contract extensions, getting more youth in the team and a viable excuse for square pegs in round holes.

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