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  1. 14 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

    Not sure how often he plays but we'll see him in a couple of weeks when Brum come to town. I think he's scored at least one goal for them in the league. 

    Anyone know how much we got for him? Or is it still at Tribunal?

  2. 4 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

    Sorry for the length of that post. And @Bigdoggsteel apologises for quoting the whole bloody thing, too.

    The constant in Sheffield Wednesday's chances was Bannan; a superb player that I knew nothing about until yesterday.

    We were heavily linked with him our first season back in the Championship. We even lodged a bid but couldn't agree personal terms so the move broke down. 

    Always been a fan of the lad. Could do with someone like him through the midfield.

  3. Just now, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

    Does Harry Chapman's twitter profile pic give a clue he is off to Hull? Or am I just getting paranoid? 

    Haha I saw that too. He's certainly changed the pic. His old one was one of his time with Rovers. 

    Does him taking it down mean something? ?

  4. 3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

    Ya, very true. In Ireland we had Liam Brady and Johnny Giles who grew up playing on the streets of Dublin. I rarely see unstructured games around the city these days. 

     

     

    7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

    He's not had the individuality coached out of him. He gets a free hand here.

    I was only thinking about this in the light of the death of Jimmy Mac the other day. Every team had a Bradley Dack  then. Bryan Douglas was a smaller but much better version once he came into midfield. Burnley had Mac, Blackpool had a bloke called Pat Quinn, Bolton had Freddy Hill etc

    They learnt the game playing 20 a side on the local rec with jumpers for goals. You had to be nippy then or you'd get kicked to death.

    This is perhaps, to an extent why England always have that little bit extra missing on the International stage?

    A majority of the English players seem to be churned out from the Academies of the Big four(and more recently Soton). And, these players get given the world to them at a young age. The amount of money that 17-18 yr Academy graduates at these clubs earn is insane. Throwing that much money at such a young age is bound to reduce their hunger/passion for the game as it is easy to become satisfied with the money you have and not struggle and work hard to go that one step further. And sometimes you need that nasty in a player. Players need to be fighters and stick a boot in if required. These are things that come naturally to players who have had to fight and sacrifice for their chance to play at the top(Uruguay, Colombia, Brazil etc). English players often come across as being "soft". 

    If you look at the top International sides(especially South American ones) most of their players come from semi-professional backgrounds where they literally play their way to the top. There are so many rags to riches stories in these sides where players go from playing on the streets to the big stage. Jamie Vardy is the only English player I can think of that's worked his way to the top. Most of the other players in England often come out of Academies which industrialize players and mould them in a specific way, robbing them of their creative expression. 

    Sorry for the long post! Just wanted to draw a correlation between passion/will to succeed and economic backgrounds of players!

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  5. Just had a look at our recent Academy graduates and is it just me that's amused at all of them predominantly being Defenders?

    We seem to be good at churning out quality defenders and goalkeepers but haven't really produced any forwards or midfielders in ages! Mahoney is the only one I can think of. And you could count Lowe as a midfielder I guess.

    Frank Fielding, Jake Kean, Raya, Olsson, Hanley, Henley, Jones, Lenihan, O'Connell, Wharton, Nyambe, Doyle, Travis - all of them being defenders/goalkeepers

    I only ask because I remember reading how Academies around the country are starting to focus more on producing Strikers & Attackers due to the rewards they can get in the Transfer market for a young British striker/winger. And some clubs have even hired foreign coaches who focus on Attacking skills and Technique. That makes sense as well considering a young striker would have the same value as four defenders combined coming out of the Academy.

    I realise there's not much the club can do in terms of the kind of players who make it out, but this is just something I found amusing.

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  6. Jack O Connell, a lad we let walk away for nothing looks a proper player and is getting rave reviews at Sheffield Utd

    A pity as we could really do with defenders of his ilk. Strong, no nonsense big men.

    I thought he was one of the top prospects coming through the Academy. Could anyone shed light on why we let him go for basically nothing? (I remember the fee being in the very low thousands)

     

  7. Jason Cummings from Forest who is currently on loan at Peterborough is banging them in for fun at League 1 and looks a striker who will go places. Was recently linked with Hull.

    A cheeky double striker swoop from Forest in Jan? ?

     

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  8. Lenihan and Nuttal are certs to start for me, going off the club's Instagram

    My team would be:

                                Leutwiler

    Travis       Lenihan      Downing      Williams

                         Tomlinson Reed

         Bennett       Rothwell      Conway

                             Nuttall

    Lincoln are a strong physical side with pacy players. We will have to start off well and give them their due respect.

    2-1 Rovers

    #COYB

  9. Slightly nervous about this one. Shouldn't be taking them lightly. 

    They're on a good run and on great confidence. I've been lingering around their messageboards to track how Wharton is doing (who they rate very highly) 

    They have a decent team and won't fear us as they have nothing to lose. 

    We need to play to our strengths and not put out a severely weakened team thinking it should be an easy game. Get that first goal and it should be easy. Otherwise it's gonna be tough. 

  10. Has there been a development with regards to the brereton signing or is it still speculation? 

    Pardon me, because the last I heard Tony said we're moving on to other targets in Brereton's context.. And I presume this Jerome link is a follow up to us pursuing other striker options? 

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