hi!

Dickov: can't work out if I love or hate him, whilst it is correct that he puts the labore in 'arte et labore', he certainly takes the arte out.

I know that everybody loves a trier, and there were times on sat where he recovered balls down the channels that he had no right to get to, but perhaps he wouldn't need to if he had a better first touch or if his team mates had more confidence in his footballing and focused more and passed to feet.

I think we'd be better off if he was restricted to a supersub role, having Dickov in the team comes across as lacking ambition and confidence and our style of play suffers.

Andy Cole got a good reception and a bit of a song which was nice and goes a long way to debunking the less palatable reasons concerning Yorke's treatment last week.

But anyone know why the overzealous stewards removed some kids from the back?

wasn't really paying attention (admittedly the same kids who were singing 'no surrender to the IRA' before KO- silly idiots).

hi!

Where did I say Christmas was being ruined for me? Unfortunately I've had my time enjoying visiting Santa, singing carols as a kid.

My point is I don't want my kids and future generations to miss out on the things I got so much pleasure out of as a Child. Like Christmas.

I work with a Muslim at work and she was saying she loved to sing hymns at school but they have stopped that as her children's school and she feels it is a shame.

I saw an Asian bloke with his small child in Accrington looking at the Christmas decorations, and his Child loved them.

Why can't everyone enjoy Christmas, that is my point. Why do we need to ban things which no one finds offensive.

nobodies ruining your Christmas!

But ok, I concede that there is too much unnessessary PCness going about

but an ethnic minority person is guaranteed to face discrimination in one form or the other thoughout their lives wheras you will not, they are entitled to a little bit of protection- and that includes having a drunken lout pretending to be a monkey having the book thrown at him.

and very helpful to point out the good muslims that stare at the cristmas lights.

As for being on the receiving end of racism, yes I have. My mate had his bike stolen from under his nose by a couple of Asians, thankfully I had my bike and managed to follow them back to his house. My mate got his bike back but got a beating for his troubles. The lad said 'if you go to the police, I'll just tell them you called me black X Y and Z and you'll get into trouble' Unfortunately he probably had a point.

I don't understand? doesn't that just make you a victim of crime? or are we to now differentiate between asian bicycle thieves and white bicycle theives. But ok if that asian lad was threatening to turn it into a race issue then he was being a nob, but to honestly think that the police will find in your detriment is just symptomatic of this dangerously perpetuated viewpoint that your way of life is in peril. that's not true.

end of the day "working class whites" (if that's not the most inference loaded phrase this side of a BNP recruiting pamhlet) are not being marginalised, not even close. And when people lose this perspective thats how the nasty starts.

As for bleating about how the state won't hold my hand, i do OK without any help from the state. However, what about all the pensioners being thrown out of their homes due to governement cut backs, what about the millions waiting for NHS treatment, some of whom wait that long they can not be cured when they finally get seen. They could do with help from the state.

this is not a race issue.

Morph...

crikey, agree with all that you just said. and you beat me to it using more clever!

Why if AESF, is wrong and whites are not now seen as the 'oppressed' race in this country did so many normally tolerant, upstanding members of the community vote for the BNP?

Why do people accept that ethnic minorities were/ are repressed but any notion of whites being hard done by is laughed at and seen as racism???

The police, the government, schools infact anyone in the public eye are scared to death of not being PC. They bring in ridiculous acts like banning Christmas cards (Red Cross), and Christmas Carols in schools as they don't want to offend any Minority races, yet this is the main reason for the growing ill feeling towards Asians.

If we are going to eradicate racism, we need the same rules on all sides. We will get nowhere if the police force employed only whites on the colour of there skin, however they are saying if two candidates where equal in all aspects but one was white and one was black they should employ the black candidate.

We need to get rid of the PC brigade and all be allowed to celebrate our own festivals and live our lives as we want

Jesus, for the last time! how are you being hard done by? has Christmas being ruined for you now that you don't get your cards from the Red Cross anymore?

Have you ever had to experience or had anything comparable to a crowd, whilst standing behind a group of asians in the same england shirt as their own, bellow at the top of their voices "I'd rather be paki than a turk" ? Been on the recieving end of a beating because of where your from by somebody who harbours the same opinions and bitterness like what I'm reading now?

"oh but they get this, get housed there, special treatment.." Just grow up and make your own way in the world without bleating on about how the state won't hold your hand anymore, you are not oppressed, they are.

And if you're voting for the BNP, than you're not a tolerant upstanding person.

Why can't AESF have his views on here without being abused, it's quite amuseing reading the crap that is forced onto people here.

i find it quite amusing too, alternatively terrifying and amusing, terrmusing.

I fear that we're living in a society now where the law is not applied equally among people of different races.

yes that's correct, and that's because society does not treat people of different races equally

Black people can go around calling people 'n*ggers', but if a white person does it, then it becomes a crime.

correct, but I'm sure you understand that language changes depending on the context or the inference. are you a a smiths fan who's anti euro or are you a fan of the anti-european smiths? I don't get it.

Would the police take seriously a complaint from a white person if he reported that a black guy had called him a 'White b*stard'?

no, would you take it seriously?

If a white guy uses the term 'Black b*stard' - he faces a fine and even perhaps a possible jail term for the offence.

This is not to condone any racist abuse towards blacks. But it's almost as if racism towards white people is acceptable, whereas any racism directed towards so-called minorities is deemed to be worse.

you don't get it don't you? as the dominant race in this country then this "inverse racism" that you are so concerned about has little or no effect on you personally, are you going to be denied opportunities, or your dignity or be chased in the street because of your ethnicity?

Do you feel hard done by in the same way that Shaun WPhilllips feels hard done by? Can you go about your daily routine without having people throw bananas at you?

The downtrodden in our society today are white working class males IMO...

IMO the research and effort that you have put into digging out old crime reports and then singling out the injustice from the colour of their skin reveal nothing but borderline racism and seething resentment. And way to go for pointing out some obscure lyric from some obscure song from some obscure pop group, that's explosive evidence in proving that the tide is indeed flooding in.

Amazing!

Maybe it's because, we all know deep down Yorke was arguably the most talented player in our squad and had he put in even 75% effort would have been one hell of a player for us.

Kevin Davies on the other hand is just a big fat waste of space!!!

ok, a little bit. he was a lazy waster, but we knew that when he signed for us, he was a lazy waster for 3 years previously.

but I can't say 100% for certain that if DY was white that the decibel volume would be exactly as high.

so this thread in summary:

"why was Yorke subjected to the loudest cacophony of noise that we have not heard in a long long time? because in that same subliminal Big Ron's way of ours "he's a lazy thick n****er? isn't that right? these coloured chaps should be seen to be working far far harder for this unfathomable reversal in status and fortune between him and myself, not in my day!

Kevin Davies? Yeah, he'll get a ribbing the next time he's down, but I won't be full of so much hate and anger, you'll see, why not? cost us twice us much, did twice as little, likes a knees up, could be one of us innit?"

"let me just reiterate, I'm no racist, hate racists, and any unambiguous exhibitions of abuse such as monkey chanting is well out of order. I don't know how, but if it's Yorke I boo louder."

"and why are the police wasting all my taxpayers money bringing the book down on that young lad, especially with all that asylum speaker buggery going on? a bit of mouthing off isn't the end of the world. the police should ignore these minor offences, it'll just blow over and that's that, things like that never get worse if left unchecked, out of proportion, all off it.

If the PCs are going to be so PC about every minor detail, I'm gonna have to scrutinise everything I say in future (and not forgetting to add a lame and irrelevant analogy) And i can't even say he's a bad dad anymore, because they'll think that's baddadist, liberalism gone mad! it's inverse racism that some groups needs more protection just because they have more of a history of discrimination and violence"

meh

so Jansen has lost his squad number then? He must be livid, it must also be game over for him by now