There is only one decent team in France and that is Lyon. The rest are very ordinary. I would guess that Rovers and Feyenoord are hot favourites for the top two places with Basel probably favourites with the bookies for third. If Krakow or Nancy get through I would be quite surprised.

Good luck to those of you that are going to Krakow. I think Texan Rover is being a little generous with his assesment of teh average Polish football fan. Having seen them at work in Germany at the world cup, I'd suggest to all travelling fans that you keep your shirt covered, your mouth shut and your wits about you. Just about every police force in Europe will tell you that their fans are the worst for mindless violence. Closely followed by the Dutch.

What a great draw we've got!

Where does that leave the english??