no originality in the chants in the championship i`ve noticed, esp from away fans. always the same `i wanna go home` crap..

Completely forgot supposed wonderkid Zaha was playing today he was kept that quiet.

don`t know about that, i was worried everytime he got the ball but we coped well enough in the end.

Happy that the fat lady probably won't get a chance to sing again, sounded like a decent draw today

it was a strange game, with a mixture of very good and very poor play from us in equal measure. a draw was imo a fair outcome. we do at times look a decent side now under bowyer. if he can keep the job and build on things, i think we could be in the mix at the right end of the league next season.

Then Hudds would be relegated instead.

yeah, i know worked it out now. it was a muted reaction then at the end of the game, that`s why i thought we weren`t yet safe.

am i getting my maths wrong here(?), but barnsley can overtake us(can`t they?) with a heavy win against huddersfield, matched with another heavy away defeat for rovers.

just need to carry on where we left off in our last 2 home performances, put in the effort and show your quality and quite often you can get the luck to go with it.

I'd like them to appoint Gary Bowyer only because I wouldn't trust them to get another appointment right. At least we know Bowyer has 'something', doesn't bullshit us and has the respect of the players. Also, we shouldn't underestimate the effect of bringing on good, trusted youth players (our academy, not portugese randomers) in this division, which Bowyer has plenty of experience of.

I'd rather that than any of Peter Taylor, Judan Ali or random ex-player anyway.

agree. in bowyer they could possibly have stumbled on the right manager for our club by luck, not design. i wouldn`t complain if he were to start next season in charge.

` Fair enough, if no one comes in then we're stuck with the clowns and their, at very best, utter negligence.`

exactly, and that being the case, isn`t it then best to hope they can get their act together? what`s so bad about me hoping for that?

ffs those harping on about venky`s out, enjoy the result tonight, the manner it was acheived and what it represents, then in the summer we can concentrate on what happens next. one thing to note, even if venky`s put the club on the market, it took the walker trust 3 or 4 years(wasn`t it?) to sell and that was as a premier league club, so i wouldn`t expect them to be gone any time soon in any case.

we are better off hoping they look into doing things right(asking the right sort of people how to do it).

hope lowe is back for this one, as despite the derision directed his way i believe we miss his energy in the middle when he`s not playing(as against watford imo where dunn was certainly not a suitable replacement). as i`ve said previously, all these remaining games are now a desparate scrap for points, and all we can hope for is a bit of luck in terms of bounce of the ball/ref decisions and that the players show that bit of extra quality than our opponants.

my line up-

sandomierski

kane

hanley

dann

olsson

kazim-richards

williamson

lowe

jones

goodwillie

rhodes

subs

usai

givet

rekik

dunn

morris

pederson

gomes

one word on todd kane, excellent prospect. reminds me of (a right sided) graeme le saux, tenacious and gets forward superbly. will be a first teamer for chelsea at some point surely..?

he was just one in a team of star perfomers tonight though who you could see it DOES matter to them.

excellent display from rovers that showed both fight(and imo crucially) our better quality of player, possibly the most convincing display this season( i`ve not attended quite a few due to being away) and only the fact we couldn`t quite get that second goal gave a fighting huddersfield side a sniff at all. if we`d played like that all season, we`d have been at the right end of the league and probably in the mix for promotion.

the players can hold their heads up high tonight after all the doubts expressed about them in certain places.

when all said and done it`s a scrap now and we need a bit of everything to go our way, luck of the bounce, ref decisions and maybe even that bit of extra quality from our players(a few do possess it!). we had all this against derby and now have to hope for similar against huddersfield too irrespective of the team line up.

What a sanctimonious arse! Get over yourself. Pompous politically correct arse...

yeah, to be fair i found the question an acceptable one too. the poster clearly had no knowledge of how the incident came about or where it happened, so just asked if something on the pitch sparked it off(probably assuming it happened in the seated area). i don`t think he meant it in a sarcastic way.

The one near us was keeping well out of the way and we could not blame him in the slightest. I fully hope the guy pulls through but could understand the stewards thinking at the time to let the idiots chuck stuff at each other. Sadly it got far more out of hand than anyone could have thought possible.

i can`t believe in such a packed area NOBODY saw EXACTLY what happened, but then maybe the police have advised them to say nothing to nobody. there`s so many contrasting tales it`s probably better to just focus on commenting about the injured man and wishing him well for now until more is known.

I don't disagree with any of that S1M30, but i would just like to add that whilst a very significantly large part of the population does indeed act as you describe above, I also believe that it is still a minority of the total population that does so. A siginificantly large minority, but thankfully still a minority. And therefore it is not yet too late to act to correct this situation; it simply needs the partof the population that is still in the majority to make a decision that it is high time to act to reverse the trend. This obviously would need the election of a Government that makes restoration of Law and Order a major priority and stands for election with this high on it's agenda. So far I am not aware that any party has declared sufficient political will to do so. Therefore it is up to the public at large that want true Law and Order back again to make their feeelings known and that they are willing to subjugate other poilitical aims like economics strategy etc in order to get some order and stability back into society. Then and only then can we return to normal political agenda's and pusue our differencees of opinion.

spot on. let`s make a major effort to get our house(the united kingdom) in order as a priority over everything else. it`s not just moaning as i spend quite a bit of time abroad and the youth are nothing like they are here(and they still love their lives and enjoy themselves). it needs sorting and fast before it gets worse.

freedom of speech and uninhibited behaviour has gone too far.

Ultra violent ? Dont make me laugh, they are nothing short of brain dead idiots.

Hunting in packs not one can ever do a one on one. Watching some fo them today made me simply laugh. hardmen ? Dont think so, I have passed harder poo than them.

The saddest thing about leaving the ground today with 20 minutes to go was the sight of the ladies crying after what they had witnessed. I only hope tha the witnesses have the bottle to come forward to name and shame the people involved.

Its yet an utter tragedy borne out of nothing but sheer mindless violence.

yeah? not ultra violent? try telling the family of sophie lancaster that then.

we are not measuring dicks here and saying who`s `ard and who isn`t. these scrotes hold power by weight of numbers. i guarentee mate even if you are 30 yr old, 18 stone and built like a brick craphouse, a gang of just 4 15 yr olds `tooled up`(as they like to say) would turn your lights out i`m afraid to say. don`t try to suggest otherwise because it just wouldn`t be true.

Fair enogh Sambo. What you have just said there shows that you obviously think like myself and all the others on here that they are behaving very stupidly whilst under the influence of alcohol. But the question still remains as to how have we as a society arrived at this situation where large groups of people behave in these criminally irresponsible ways in such large numbers and so often. Violence fueled by drink and/or drugs has become the "norm" in virtually every town and city centre every weekend and is costing the earth in policing and NH time and facilities. And the worst aspect of it all is that because it has become the "norm" it is apparently accepted now as virtually inevitable and something that "just is". I cannot and never will accept that thinking. It is not inevitable simply because I and all people of my age and younger as well can easily remember when these things did NOT happen; even at weekends!!

I fully accept that there have always been instances of people being drunk and disorderly, but at the same time it was NEVER the norm. It was always a SMALL minority and the police would usually arrest the more obstropulous ones, while sending the more co-operative ones home to sleep it off. All done very peaceably. Whilst large scale fighting in pubs, clubs or in the streets was indeed a very rare occurence and when it occasionally did happen it was sure to make the front pages of the newspapers. And the reason why it did not happen very much was that the vast majority of the population was single mindedly horrified and outraged by any such behaviour and everyone knew it. They would quickly find themselves virtual outcasts in the community at large if they made a habit of loutish behaviour. That is what has changed over the last 50 years, and the politicians and educationalists have a lot to answer for their increasingly "head in the sand " approach to facing up to an increasing problem.

the `new` generation are ultra viloent, disorderly and `extreme` because they have been brought up by crap parents who just totally neglect parental responsability and guidance by plonking their kids in front of a tv screen or video game system to `get them out of the way` while opening up their latest bottle of alchohol, or let`s face it, lighting up their next joint(members of my own family are no better). what is on tv or in movies? what is in video games? what is the message given to them by modern music? violence is cool, guns and knives are cool, treating ladies like whores is cool, earning wealth by criminal means is cool, being part of a gang is cool, physically dangerous activities are cool, football violence is cool and my biggest issue, ARROGANCE is cool.

too many people become parents for the wrong reasons when quite frankly they aren`t fit to be and that`s why we have youth that feel any kind of behaviour is acceptable and the more controversial it is, the cooler it is. simple as that.

you think i`m wrong? then ask yourself this..

would any of today`s youths be walking around wearing `hoodies` to disguise their criminal behaviour if eminem never existed?

I felt that the entire show was basically about whether Ron is a racist or not and not really about the show itself. Of course they had to bring up what happened but I didn't feel that they needed to spend the majority of the show talking about the one off incident when everyone knows that he isn't some kind of white supremacist. What he did was wrong, he accepts and understands that he was wrong to say it and I hope he gets back into the game because he's a great character and what he's done in football is up there with the best of them.

the sheff weds guys `crime` sounds as though it`s even softer than what ron did. it`s likely he only stated that such a company treats their people likes n....ers. still not pleasant, but he isn`t offending an individual as such. why is it on tv/in movies when a black `homie` refers to caucasions as `white boy` in a derogatory manner, we are expected to laugh at it?

jonathan ross interviewed chris rock last year, and in the show he quoted chris rock`s act using the term `n....r`. he was only quoting his words, but even that was seen as controversial. it`s a f..ked up world.