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  1. 5 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

    This old school of thought rearing its head again. Of course we have no divine right to be in the PL- but as fans, we deserve better than what our owners are offering.

    OK, I'll bite. Tell me, just why do WE deserve better? Why not Blackpool, Bolton, Knobbers, or any other team you care to name. What makes us do special?

     

     

  2. 12 hours ago, Upside Down said:

    It's funny how they like to attribute all of our success to Jack Walker but fail to see that the only reason they are above us is because of venkys.

     You believe we'd be in the Premier League without the Venkys? That's some leap of faith!

     

  3. 58 minutes ago, lraC said:

    To put some balance on this, yes the Dingles have won the second tier title and been promoted to the premier league, but that is where it ends.

    Overall the success and failure, of both clubs has a marked contrast, strongly in Rovers favour over the last 60 years, so only the older users of this site, will remember it being any other way.

     

    In my lifetime Burnley have been League Champions and have won the second tier title THREE TIMES, (in addition to getting promoted from it on another 2 occasions). Granted they spent years in the wilderness, while we lorded it over them, but their achievements just like ours, are not to be sniffed at.

    It's also worth remembering there is now a generation of young Rovers fans who have never witnessed a Rovers victory over Burnley, ( or even a bloody goal for that matter)!

    As I have got older I look at Burnley through more pragmatic eyes. At the end of the day, both clubs have long and proud histories and the fact we both have been able to go toe to toe with the best is some achievement.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

    It’s when it crosses over from a “ gentle ribbing “ to piss taking that  I object. When I played it was drummed into me “ be a bad loser but a good winner “. That stuck with me - winning was always enough in my book, after the game I never felt the need to denigrate the opponents. Sometimes the margin between success and failure is very narrow indeed, I never forget that also.

    i’ve mentioned it before but some of the posters that are on here several times a day were missing for months on end last season.

    Sorry Tyrone, am I missing something here? I haven't seen any evidence of 'piss-taking' ( unless the mods have removed some posts that I am unaware of).

    I get that we are all smarting right now and Burnley's promotion is a bitter pill to swallow, but let's not pretend we are holier than though on the piss taking front, remember we had 34 years of giving it to Burnley.

    Football success is cyclical, what goes around, comes around. Rovers will at some stage be in a loftier position than them and the bragging rights will be ours once again.

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  5. 7 hours ago, Gav said:

    Time to close this thread down. 

    To be fair, this thread only started when we thought the Burnley were going  to be relegated 2021.

    Looks a bit childish to close it now after some very gentle ribbing from the resident Dingles. 

     

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  6. 5 hours ago, JHRover said:

    I just hope that in one of our remaining home games this season we nudge our way past 22,000 attendance at Ewood and in doing so can point to a bigger home gate than the dingles have had in years. Small wins but useful given their recent obsessions about attendances.

    Dear God, is that the best win we can hope for, Ewood can hold more supporters than Turf Moor?

    I think we'd be better keeping quiet on the attendance front, considering they are averaging about 6,000 fans more for each game. They have sold out on several occasions this season according to the LT, and have a waiting list for season tickets for NEXT SEASON. 

    A win on the 25th April will restore authentic bragging rights 

  7. All very well SR, but as your link implies that was during the days when we had proper leadership at the club under John Williams and season tickets were at giveaway prices. Same goes for the Oxford game at the end of the division 1 season. Ewood can accommodate 10,000 fans more than the Dingle Dome so hardly surprising we got a one off higher gate than them that season as we were celebrating promotion.

  8. 11 hours ago, JHRover said:

    Wow. What can I say. The best performance I have seen from a Rovers team in many years. i'm struggling to think of the last time we played to such a standard against such opposition and so deservingly won. I can't remember another occasion.

    Should have been out of sight and done and dusted by 60 minutes and thought we would pay dearly for not finishing them off but we then showed the other qualities to our game in the last 20 so much so they threatened little despite having most of the ball.

    Some effort to churn out that sort of performance and result away at a PL side. Another when it is the 2nd time we've done it this season, comparing to year after year of dismal cup efforts under the last manager.

    The magnitude of the effort to me summed up seeing Dack and Brereton sat in the commentary box, bringing Jack Vale on for the last 20 minutes and having other youngsters on the bench. We are down to the bare bones and are desperately short on options, depth and experience but boy are they stepping up to deal with it. Still think the squad depth issue will be our downfall thanks to incompetence upstairs.

    Unlike our media frenzied neighbours who have got to the cusp of the QFs having to deal with Crawley Town and Fleetwood at home we have got there the hard way playing 2 solid Championship sides away and a solid PL side 

     

    Dingles played away at Bournemouth in round 3 JHR, followed by an away tie at Ipswich which they won after a replay. Think they played Crawley in the League Cup.

  9. 11 hours ago, Vinjay said:

    I know FUP isn't something that gets much negative press on here but mentioning Burnley should help. 7 leading Premier League clubs and Burnley all signed a letter to try and get Man City banned from Europe. Even before an appeal process which City are very confident of winning. Of course you can see the motives (and downright hypocrisy in some cases) but Burnley's seem different. Hatred of Jack Walker is the obvious agenda and I know how important is is to mention Jack being disrespected when it's Burnley doing it. You could argue that well "they might get a rich backer" but if someone wants to pick a club with a name as dreary as that it would seem strange. Can't imagine kids saying "isn't Burnley a cool name" and smashing down their door for tickets. Also they seem to enjoy being boring. Now I know Rovers had no ambition under greedy family influenced trustees and while many on here thought nobody would buy the club under right circumstances there wasn't total opposition. Burnley seem to enjoy not spending money simply because it's the opposite of Jack Walker. 

    I don't know if it's true but supposedly Jack helped them one time financially. This has seemingly angered some of their fans even more. They are probably offended that Jack didn't hate them how perverse is that? That's probably the real reason they are so glad he's dead because that's when Rovers fans started paying more attention to them than they had in a decade. Jack wasn't a hateful man anyway so it wasn't like he was deliberately patronising them by helping out. There's only one club he ever seemed irritated by and that's an extreme case. If you're constantly being sneered at for "buying the title" and constantly harassing the club over your star striker for an entire summer it would test the patience of a saint. Which Jack was as far as I'm concerned.

    Should add that there have also been comments from Burnley claiming they could "go bust" over this pandemic crisis. Firstly any club that "goes bust" would surely be granted re-entry to their respective league (or close enough) as things stand given the extreme circumstances. Secondly does that not show Burnley's hypocrisy over "being sustainable". Of course it's an extreme time but they were built on a platform of Tv money (which they seem reluctant to spend any of) and are now pleading poverty. They say what Jack did "wasn't sustainable". Maybe not if you had a crystal ball and could see ever increasing fees capped off by Abramovich in the future. Jack would have downsized without completely starving the club or selling to someone who at least knew what relegation is. If you're not sustainable beyond that what more can you do? That's what Burnley need to ask themselves sitting on a pile of Tv money yet claiming could go bust even if league resumes as soon as August.

    Man City can certainly take the hit (obviously FUP will be suspended but they will probably try and cap transfers as another way for United led cartel to hold City down) but many of those clubs that claimed they were "sustainable" are not saying the opposite. Or they are just greedy with Liverpool and Tottenham coming in for criticism in particular. Won't even get started on United. FUP does not work in the real world and it sure as hell does not work in the football world. You want to preach about City not being sustainable. The truth is they are more sustainable than anyone else. United's debt has never been as much of a handicap as fans claim (though it might be now given extreme circumstances) given all money they have pissed away. Goes against what FUP lovers claim it's all about though. Of course United fans don't like people mentioning this as hating the Glazers and crowing about FUP at same time isn't convenient for them.

    Rovers were never the biggest spending club (even at the peak Milan and a couple of others prevented Rovers ever being no 1 in world for spending) but in the early 90's Jack's money to many looked like a bottomless pit (except to his family who probably whined when he donated the steel for the new Riverside never mind what happened later) but In City's case it's as bottomless as you can ever get. 

    Bloody hell Vinjay, that is one weird conspiracy theory! To suggest Burnley have only voted to have City banned from European competition because of their hatred of Jack Walker is as daft as the current belief that 5G masts are responsible for corona virus. Do you really believe Jack would bale out the Dingles, when there was a chance of them going bust, leaving Rovers be the only football  club of significance in East Lancashire? How do you think he became successful?  Certainly not by throwing money at lost causes, as Burnley were at the time. Get outside for some fresh air, this lockdown is doing you no good at all!

     

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