6 minutes ago, Silas said:

Really?!

If you can't beat em, join em.

And we certainly can't beat em at the moment. 

I admire your principals,  but the reality is they aren't gonna make 170 mill disappear, and they aren't gonna get us back playing in the Prem again.

and we don't have the money to spunk 10/20/30 million+ to get us up. And if we did would you trust TM to spend it?. You can get out this league on a low budget, teams have proved that, were in a position where we need to get lucky and get promoted on the cheap. It will be a guaranteed relegation from the prem if we did go up with a poor squad (it will be like norwich), but it will help clear some debt.Thats the reality, we almost need to go up, accept relegation by staying with a cheap squad and not over spend, clear the debt from premier league money and hope we can go up a 2nd time to completely remove the debt. It sounds impossible but that's probably the only scenario if getting debt free under them.

Squad -

GK x 2 -
Walton
Leutwiler

= Not good enough, could do with a keeper

DF:
LB x 4
Williams
cunningham
Bell
Downing

RB x 2
Nyambe
Bennet

= Bennet not good enough, need another RB

CB x 3
Adarabioyo
Lenihan
Williams

CM: x 3
Johnson
Travis
Evans

= I think potentially we could get away with one of the below wingers playing in the middle with one of the above if we really needed to.

MF:
LW/RW:
Downing
Hotly
Rothwell
Chapman
Armstrong

ST:
Gallagher
Graham
Samuel
Brereton

= Need a striker

From the above squad, given we have a small budget, I would say most important players needed would be - ST, RB, GK. I know we need others but im going on what we urgently need through the door with a low budget. I would also get rid of -
Brereton - to sell
Samuel - on loan
Walton - swapped with someone better.

Just my opinion. I'm sure theirs many that disagree, who would others think we need to get in and who to get out, baring in mind working with a small budget so cant say we need a new 11 lol.
 

Good result and that's all that matters. But I still think theirs still things that didn't look too great which will potentially kill us in future games.

The Central midfield in the 2nd half seemed like a massive gap, it was very open all 2nd half, on another day we could have dropped points. I don't think Travis ( Im massive fan of travis btw) or Evans gave us any cover in front of the back 4. Probably not entirely their fault but as a team sometimes we need to be a bit more compact and close up the massive holes and gaps. They let runners go and there became massive gaps, luckily brentford didn't really have that quality in the final 3rd. We should have killed the game off at times but defensively i just thought we left ourselves very open and on another day we could of dropped points. We need to work on being more solid and closing up gaps especially when we have a lead. I just think game management could of been better, and if we are to pick up more points away from home then its something we really need to improve. But a clean sheet and back to back wins. So I will shut up and enjoy. But I just think if we want to improve our league position in terms of getting points away from home especially then we need to make games less open (I know it was a home game, but we pick up more points at home).

I think it will need to be pretty bad for him to get the boot. It has the feeling he has all his friends in the high enough places to keep him in charge for quite a while, until it gets really bad, and im talking in the relegation places for a while.

Venkys are not football people, whether we lose to Preston or even if it was a 10-0 loss to burnley they wouldn't be thinking lets sack him. It will need to be relegation looking stuff for that I think.

be interesting to see what wages hes on.

Could Richie Smallwood do a job at CB? He lacks any quality to play cm at this level, but he doesn't mid doing the dirty work, and CB isn't the toughest position to play as long as you can - tackle, head, hoof. Lenihan as a partner to try and talk him through a game?

Maybe I'm thinking too much like Mowbary... players out of position...

Just now, joey_big_nose said:

Does Johnson okay centreback??

Every other option looks p!ss poor, hes probably got the experience to be solid their. We got enough midfielders to cover his cm position, plus gives us another opportunity to play another attacking midfielder in their. Travis has the legs to do the dirty work. Hes experienced enough to cover their I reckon. But yeh Johnson is one of our best cms, but I just dont have faith in other cbs ☹️

I would go -

Walton

Nyambe Lenihan Johnson Cunningham

              Travis Rothwell

      Armstrong    Dack       Downing

                        Gallagher

I reckon 3-1 or 4-0 loss. We need to start on the front foot or we will get pummeled if we sit in.

On 18/07/2019 at 17:52, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Still better than anything we have right now between the sticks...

I completely agree

2 hours ago, Gary C said:

http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/993165352?-11198:839

More on potential Carson move

I would rather raya over this chap... hes old and poo. Not rated him for years. Seems like an easy option to me, we have struggled to afford anyone and hes going for a has been that's never going to get better but only get worse and is cheap and mowbary used to have him at WBA back in 2008.

Not For Me.

heres a shout, what about Peter Crouch on a Free ? I think he would be a alright squad player. Forget Age, experience, and squad role I think he would do a job

linked with Scott Dann -

https://roverschat.com/crystal-palace-defender-linked-with-return-to-ewood/

Jacob Butterfield -

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manager-reveals-jacob-butterfield-training-3063897

Not really big news, but I know Ben Gladwin was meant to turn up for a mortgage meeting way down south today in Reading, and never showed up. The fact that hes down in Reading having that done would say to me hes more than likely out the door. (Hopefully!)

Although he didnt show up for it haha

people giving there starting line-ups..... people saying we are weaker than last season.......

Its the 27th June......

We are unpredictable because we are a mid table side! Thats what mid table teams do, there inconsistent, can get any result (win lose or draw) at anywhere in the league.

Were too good to go down, and were not good enough to go up. We will end up between 10th - 13th IMO. Am I angry about it? no... am I frustrated a bit with it? yes.

I have NO idea what result to expect for this lol.

I'm going to go with what someone else said earlier, a nail biting win, or a bad defeat.

Prediction: 0-0 ?

We should look to finish as strong as possible, then more league progression next season without spending big.

Thats the reality folks. We haven't got Pepe in charge, its Tony Mowbray. I think since hes taken over hes deserved to have a bit of time to see what he can do with us in the championship. He is frustrating but its much better than the previous 7 years we've had.

thanks for your help so far but all those tickets are gone. Don’t suppose there’s another hero out there with any spare to sell?

9 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Someone selling 2 standing on therovers Facebook page

Thanks! I will get onto this now. 

Is anyone selling or need to get rid of any tickets for this game today? I can now go but rovers inform me I can’t purchase a ticket today at the ground. 1 or 2 would be fantastic. Cheers. 

I think we should be careful tbh, as much as i agree with the majority of comments regarding we need to improve on the squad we have, but i get a slight feeling were on the verge of sailing towards being unhappy at TM if we don't sign players that don't make us challenge for top 6. For me a club or manager should never really say give "me a certain amount of transfer windows and we will then start challenging for promotion", you cant guarantee anything in football. For me its keeping the club stable and to keep gradually improving the club and moving it forward. If it takes 5 years then so be it, as long as we are still moving forward. Lets be honest none of us work for the club, nobody really knows what the actual budget is, or wage limits are. TM doesn't have to come out and show our hand in for everyone to know and see (including us fans). This leagues proven time and time again budget isn't the be all and end all, you need a good group, and if that group clicks and works, then who knows what you can achieve in this league. I dont like Brereton, and Im not happy with the 7Million sum, but Im sure TM didnt get him in knowing he would of been this poor atm. Hes made a bad signing (atm), but hes also made a bloody good one in dack (which we will end up making a hell of a profit on). So lets stop moaning and get behind what we have, as like others have previous stated, this is miles better than what the last 7 years worth of rubbish we have had to endure. We are where we are, rome wasnt built in a day, and we are bloody long way off rome!

I would take all TMs comments with a pinch of salt right now. Who knows what he really has his eyes on this transfer window.

Its a funny old game.

Come on you Rovers!

I went to notts forest v rovers in 2017, we won 1-0, and I remember telling my mates "hes an absolute donkey that bloke", i was refering to Brereton (I had no idea who he was at the time). then when we signed him, I said to my same mates, "we are about to spend 7 million! didnt realise we even had 7 million! and were spending it on some bloke I have never heard of?" To which they replied "hes the player you said was a donkey at Forest away"..... I havent seen anything to change my opinion.

But heres hoping he somehow sparks into life and gets going. Tbh most stikers look at a young age show glimpses of primise...., so lets hope he springs into action. I would imagine we had already penned in a contract that said he was signing permanetly in january no matter what. Shame I would prefer to of spent 7 mill on maybe 1 or 2 players.

But thats football, game of opinions, (and mine doesnt matter) and I would love it! love it! if he to be proved me wrong!

Wow.... look dreadful. Look brain dead, tired, lack of quality. Brereton so far looks absolute shocking. Sheff utd literally just sat in till we gave them the ball and hit on the counter. Both goals were dreadful defending, we weren’t tight enough to the guys crossing it and weren’t even marking the goalscorers. Couldn’t defend and couldn’t attack. All we did was pass to reed or dack and hope they do something while every other player stands and watches, no movement. Then when sheff utd did go forward and we got the ball we took so long we let sheff utd get back in and sit. It was either a boring sidewould pass as nobody moved or a hopeless diag where we never picked up the 2nds. Bit more intensity was needed all round tonight, slow and sloppy. We looked so easy to deal with tonight sheff utd didn’t have to do anything special. 

3 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

We are back to having no idea if we really have much money now if any at all after the statement from the Nottingham reporter. Talks of no bids coming from us at all on deadline day. 

Im confused with it all tbh - dunno what the hell is going on but if we do have money, this deal is not one we should be pursing now as 10/12/14 million or whatever next is bandied around is criminal for 'potential'.

I wouldnt be suprised if this was just a bit of a publicity stunt from us to get the fans believing we have a bit of money, and get us a bit excited. Like someone on the forum stated previously we dont have to spend big to find quality or show intent. Purchasing and scouting quality can be done with out having to throw money on players. Its being sensible and getting the right player to help us keep progressing. Also Im happier weve spent zero on rodwelll than 8 + million on a player we never heard of a week or 2 ago, with the debt we still have. I would go on the track record of the venkys and think that we have around 5/6 million tops to play with, if loans and freebees are what we do then its still absolutely nothing new for us as a club, as its the way weve dealt in the last few years anyway. This is also a league you dont have to spend ridiculous amounts of money to get out of, its buying and spending smart that gets you out of it.

We do obviously need to strengthen but im not too fussed if we dont sign this player. I think we should all stop 'hoping' we wil lspend 8+ million as lets not forget we got a huge debt still, and we dont want to over spend just finish mid table and pile on more debt. TM knows what hes doing.

21 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

Yeah, then the Venkies have injected more due to killing more chickens or words to that effect. Probably needed a cover story for our supposed big bid.

I dont know what to believe anymore. One thing is certain, I highly doubt we have the 8/10/12 million that keeps getting thrown around. 5 mil tops i would imagine.

Agreed, I also think 5/6 mill tops. I wouldnt believe everything we read in the press. Some 'fake' news gets put in the public just to purposley ignite a fire alsewhere. I imagine a lot of whats beeing leaked is untrue. I would guess we have put a bid in, and I would guess we have never bid for the player for over 8 mill, or any other player.

2 hours ago, Ruaney said:

Dack is probably holding off on signing a new deal until he see's what investment is put in to the transfer market and the quality of player he ends up having around him. 

 

Also, I feel if we wait it out with Armstrong, Newcastle may lower their asking price towards the end of the window - sit tight Tony.

either way dacks still on a contract... Whether he signs a new one or not. We only got him last season so I wouldnt be worried about it running down. The only reason they probably want to negotiate a new deal is so they can add in some new add on clauses and a minimum release fee.

I imagine (and for most clubs) that deals will be done towards the end of the tranfer window. Due to the world cup the big teams have had to take squad/young players on their tours and friendlies to have enough players to use in friendlies. I dont imagine many prem clubs will want to do many deals in terms of letting players go at this stage.