Wild Irish Rover
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Boo Lucas boo hiss hiss.
I wonder if you hate Shearer as much since he left far more dishonourably. He showed far less loyalty to Rovers by leaving the club when it suited himself and not keeping Rovers fully informed of the situation. Of course he isn't an arrogant aussie so you'll let him off.
Shearer, Shearer, ra, ra, ra
Carp.
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Strikes me that whoever is responsible for negotiating contracts with players at the club should now begin point blank to refuse to include 'Release Clauses' in any future agreements. This is simply because there is no value in these clauses to the club (except of course to help persuade players to sign). The value is entirely stacked in the player's interest plus that of other 'bigger' clubs and unscrupulous agents. I mean, other than for Shearer, when has a release clause actually benefitted Rovers?
At the very least we should insist that the amounts required to invoke release clauses actually reflect footballing reality (i.e. the open market) perhaps by making it a requirement that arbitration is used to agree a fair market value for players before another club could make an approach. That way we would end this ridiculous situation where other clubs could attempt to asset strip the Rovers by implanting stories that unsettle our staff and set expectations far too low for their transfer value. I mean Benni McCarthy for £5 million in today's market - yeah, that sounds reasonable right??
We have seen far too many reminders of 'player power' in recent years and I feel that Rovers should be one of the first clubs to stand up and say "No More' If I sign a contract of employment, I don't have the luxury of a release clause - no, I am expected to HONOUR THE CONTRACT or renegotiate another.
So come on Benni, do the right thing
Rant over
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That would be fab - Garner scoring 5 against Derby (?) (memory is going!), meat pie, a pint and a packet of woodbines before a game... and he was STILL able to beat most defenders to the ball even with them having a 20 yard start.
One of the hardest working footballers ever to wear the famous blue and white halves - young Matty D reminds me of Garner in the way he chases and chases and works for the team - an ablsoute legend.
I like the online museum idea - surely we could get a brewery, bakery or tobacco company to sponsor it
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Der.... I'm confused. Is Lucas still a Rovers player or has he signed for the (cringe) claret and blue hammers? Can't see anything to confirm he has gone. I'd like to see this wrapped up ahead of the weekend, as I feel we need to get a settled squad focused on the job(s) in hand as soon as possible. All of this 'is he / isn't he' fandango is nothing but an unsettling influence on the side, not to mention somewhat galling for the supporters.
Anyone got a definitive answer? Is Lucas Neill going? Either way, I hope he isn't included for the short trip to Eastlands tomorrow, although the beeb still have him in the team selection.
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This is a subject that deserves a Poll.
Mods - please can we have a new poll - subject = Fans' Choice for Club Captain.
Ta.
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We all go because of a phenomenon called Intermittent reinforcement schedule - THE most psychologically addictive behaviour modification pattern.
Basically, we go because we are addicted to the thrill of winning occasionally - there will be no Chelski fans who feel quite as passionate about their current club, basically because they are always positively reinforced (by the team winning), whereas we just cant predict who is going to turn up on any given match day (no pun intended for those traumatised by Saturday's goalkeeping display). Same thing for Scumchester at the moment. If you win all the time, the thrill extinguishes so you have to go to greater and greater lengths in order to achieve the same level of excitement.
At the moment, if there was a league for the most passionate fans, we would be close to the top, although much of the passion is manifesting as despair.
Oh, by the way, I go to Ewood because I love the Rovers.
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Hold on just a minute, scary rumour-mongers...
In Mark Hughes we have an excellent up and coming manager, capable of motivating players, commanding their respect and loyalty, able to blend the resources at his disposal into a good premiership outfit. Plus he has shown the ability to confound the critics, enabling Rovers to shed their bully-boy image in favour of a perception of a solid (if workmanlike) top level side in all minds except for a small minority dahn saarrff.
There is simply NO evidence that changing managers mid-stream works for clubs like ours. I have no doubt that except for the hand of Given at the weekend, we would have had a decent result against the barcodes and you all would have been crowing about our top 10 credentials once again.
If, and it is a big IF, Hughesy fails to stop the rot in the spring when he has once again a full strength squad including let us not forget a certain Steven Reid and Ryan Nelsen, then yes by all means start the snidey chips away to get the lad sacked. Until then keep your mouths buttoned other than to very vocally express your support for the club that we all (allegedly) support and love.
Hughes is quality. Pardew has had his 15 minutes of fame for now.
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Are people allowed to take their sons?
Taking my two sons. So yes, I think so.
C'mon you Blues - lets keep the momentum and excitement going after last night's heroics.
See you on Sunday.
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john butcher
20 pints on a Thursday night at the Beechwood Butcher, as I remember.
I used to live next door to Roger Jones as a kid. Nice fellow.
For me, you'd have to go a long way to beat Terry Gennoe as the zenith of Rovers goalkeepery. I think Brad is excellent, but Terry could handle crosses and dominate the area in a way that few I've seen since can match.
John Filan had (has?) immensely strong arms, was a great shot stopper but wasn't quite tall enough.
Bobby Mimms was very capable, yet never put the fear of god into attackers or gave the requisite levels of confidence to his defence - he always seemed a bit tentative.
Tim Flowers certainly had bottle and was very in tune with the Rovers fans. He'd always celebrate a goal (for us) and was often the last to leave the pitch after applauding the fans, particularly away from home.
I do like the football365 lookalike for Brad... http://www.football365.com/fun_downloads/l...ry_176798.shtml
Roll on August
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Well, to be fair, it will probably deter me from making a 300 mile pilgrimage on a wet Monday night... I'll just shout louder at the telly in the pub.
I think Wigan have shot their bolt for the season now, and this will be the game that finally nails their european ambitions back on the back burner for next season.
3-0 Rovers
Come on!
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I can't see how people are calling this a banana skin, Boro have a high quality squad (when fit!). They also have something that we dream about, three strikers who can score goals - which could very well be the difference on Saturday. Our defence has been shakey at best of late, this is one of the last teams I'd have matched them up against in their current state.
We'll be lucky to get a win I feel, a draw would be a decent result though.
It's a banana skin simply because people are expecting us to win it, due in part to our excellent home form (statistically at least) and Boro's midweek exertions.
I agree with you that Boro have an exceptionally talented front three who, on their day, can run amok. But then again, I just have a feeling that Rovers will find the edge and put Boro to it, skinny bananas or not.
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Banana skin IMO:
Boro will be looking to avenge the two smacks we gave them over Christmas when they were down in the dumps. Their players will be on something of a high from their performance in Rome and the club generally has bounced back from the doldrums only a few weeks ago.
I know Hughesey will be psyching the lads up properly, but after the footballing lesson that Villa taught us in the first half last week, we will need to come out of the traps early and at speed in order to gain the upper hand against Boro.
The key will be to occupy and dominate midfield and get the front men causing panic early on - set the tone and then stay with the pace. Boro are a bit enigmatic (you don't know which boro is going to turn up) but have the players to hurt us. The same could be said about us too (yes - we have players who can hurt us (the fans) too!)
Going for a decent win though - 3-0 Rovers Bellamy, Pongolle and Lilly
C'mon you mighty Europe Chasing Blues
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Angry scenes at cartoon demo
Police attend disturbances outside BBC headquarters
There were violent protests at a demo in central London today after a controversial cartoon picture was published this week depicting the former Liverpool defender Mark Lawrenson.
Gay extremists and members of the Mark Lawrenson fan club issued death threats against journalists after the cartoon picture above was shown on the BBC at the weekend.
The Lawro cartoon, which was first published in a Danish newspaper, has sparked outrage and anger across Europe. Several publications in France, Germany and Spain later decided to feature the cartoon, together with the BBC.
Extremists began rallying in central London this afternoon, waving placards and burning effigies of Gary Lineker in response to the persistent mockery of the effete, droopy-faced Lawrenson. Gay extremists said that Lawrenson's moustache in the cartoon was "blatantly homophobic" and insulting to gay people.
"It's using an old-fashioned stereotype to ridicule us," said one angry Lawro fan. "I'm surprised they didn't go the whole hog and show Lawro wearing a leather cap, leather trousers and a Village People shirt."
Extremists furious at what they say is an "outdated and overly camp" depiction of Lawrenson's moustache, have threatened to boycott Danish products in future following the cartoon's first appearance this week in a Danish newspaper. "I'll be going to Tesco's tomorrow without buying my usual packet of sizzling Danish bacon," said one gay man. "Though naturally I'll always enjoy eating other meat."
A tearful Ray Stubbs watched with horror this afternoon as extremists stormed BBC headquarters with a flame-thrower, while Lawrenson's former Liverpool team-mate Alan Hansen reclined languidly on his orange lounge chair and called the cartoon image "shocking, simply shocking."
When quizzed by police about the violent conduct of his loyal supporters, Lawrenson himself whined "I derrrn't really knerrrrr."
Priceless! Now, can anyone with media contacts get (leak?) this ASEF post into a more prominent place (such as Football 365 or such like...) That would be a laugh nerr, wouldn't it - I mean, the fact that Lawrenson is where he is in the media says more about the BBC than it does about him, doesn't it
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On balance, I think Martin Jol has done a similar job to Hughesey, with arguably a slightly better set of players, so with home advantage they may sneak a win. However if we turn up full of the fire and brimstone that took us past Manyoo and The Arse then there is a good chance that we can steal a result. Heres hoping - 1-1 is my best guess
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Great isn't it??!!
The Premiership is a roller coaster. Look at Steve McClaren at Boro - their bods were screaming for his head after their shocking run around Christmas when we tubbed em twice, yet now he is back in the frame for the kiss of death job after the Swede moves on.
It will certainly be an interesting run in, of that thee is no doubt. Tomorrow is a perfect chance for Hughesey and the lads to signal our clear intent and it would be very very sweet to rub a few Spurs noses in it at the same time. Oops will post my thoughts on t'other thread
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You're right of course Abster, I seem to recall Wigan outsilencing us easily at the JJB a few weeks back.
Thing is, even Old Turdfford is a morgue, except for the fact that there are so many of the Manc chavs rustling their bling.
The only thing that gets a crowd going these days is the team bringing home the bacon on a regular basis. And let's face it, until verrrry recently none of us were ever really sure which Rovers team was going to turn up, so passion and bacon have been sadly conditioned out of your average Roverite.
I'd say there was a few quid and a PHd out there for some bright spark willing to look into the science (i.e. knowledge) and dynamics of crowd verbosity and amplitude. If it was possible to identify critical factors for getting a crowd behind a team, regardless of their performance on the pitch, then no doubt you could make a fortune in marketing it...
Anyway, whenever I'm there (sadly not often enough these days) the volume goes up several percentage points and no, speaking to the bloke who always turns round to chide me, I will not shut the flop up...
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Unless of course it is the Rovers showing the Mancs just what a bunch of R s'ole's they are..
This is a real test of Hughesey's football acumen, the team's footballing credentials and bottle... why did Tim Flowers jump into my mind just then...?
Anyway.... COME ON YOU MIGHTY BLUES! Let's have OUR DREAM FINAL! (in Feb)
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PS My link on the previous page works now, I hope!
Ya. Thanks Philipl.
The article is nicely understated and actually points to a much deeper level of strategy and science underpinning Rovers tactics on the pitch these days, especially when compared to the neanderthal tactical nous of a certain Newcastle incumbent!
Unfortunately I'll have to endure the usual Irish taunts this evening as I can't get over to the game, and even in the wild west (of Eire) there is still a strong affinity to the Mancs. 'S OK though - plenty of Guinness and my crash helmet should see me through :
Anyway, Go Rovers Go!
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Hear hear, Phil - up the Latics! Down the Arse!
or something like that.
At least Thommo will be ineligible for the final against us.
I'm hoping against hope that Hughesey has a cunning plan for tomorrow evening - but then again, things are already sooooo different from all those times in the past where we would definitely be going to the theatre of Glazed eyeballs as lambs to the slaughter.
So come on you mighty (if slightly underdoggy) BLUES!
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