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  1. 2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

    Get your point generally TOFT, there is no worry about getting a seat here which drives demand at a lot of other clubs, so if you don’t price them well either then they will obviously struggle to sell - but you didn’t need a season ticket in 1976 either as supply far outstripped demand then too.

    You make a good point about 1976.  But in some ways it was a badge of honour.  I'd just left school at 16, started work and bought it with my first wage.  Also, in those days we knew when every game of the season was going to be played when the fixtures were announced.  It was easy to work out  if a ST was value for money against paying for each of the games I would be able to attend.  These days Sky move games at their whim.  Few people can guarantee to be able to attend every match.  Also in those days match day prices were announced at the same time as ST prices.  Helping those vfm calculations.  These days match day prices are not announced until just a few weeks before each game making pre-season comparisons impossible.  Somebody on here said that those people who bought a Final 5 package last year ended up paying more than me who attended match-by-match.  Barmy way to run a business.

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  2. A different perspective  - I had a ST for 44 years.  Had 5 for many years in the Family Stand.  Kids now grown up and long gone.  They no longer live close enough to consider a ST - one lives abroad.  I gave up when Swag refused a refund of the lost matches in the curtailed season during Covid.  Bit by bit I was dragged back last season by friends, and ended up attending around 3/4 of the games at Ewood.  If I'd bought a ST, a half ST or even a Final 5, I would've lost money.  Theres never an issue in getting a match day ticket.  In fact, for most matches, I could take my own deck-chair.  So what's the point of having a ST at Ewood??  Swag needs to consider this.  A ST is less relevant now than when I bought my first one in 1976 - 6k crowds in a 30k stadium.  A ST meant something in those days.

  3. Any attempt to address attendances should be applauded - however tenuous.  STs are a big factor for town clubs.  If they're too expensive, few will buy.  But those who do will certainly value them and make best attempts to attend every game.  Conversely, if they're too cheap they hold little value, and make it far too easy for the holder to pick-and-chose their matches.  Ever changing KO times enforced last-minute by Sky are also a big factor for many.  I don't have Sky, so don't have that temptation to stay at home on a cold/damp February Tuesday night.  But those of us who need to plan ahead because of work or other commitments,  are not encouraged to pull out for STs.  The latest TV announcements mean that I can only definitely attend 1, and possibly attend another, of the last 5 home games.  Flexi-ticketing needs to be thought about.

  4. Quite clear from JW Upper today that Buckley is 2 passes ahead of anyone else.  I wish that we had a couple of other players on his wavelength.  Reminds me of Sherwood.  Techincally too good for this division, shame about his physicality.  The number of times he had to physically POINT to Nyambe and Dolan where to be in order to receive his pass was embarrassing.  Even my missus pointed this out.  But Mogga has to learn to trust him when on a yellow.  We lost control when he went off.

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  5. 28 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

     

    How is it that your money will be going to ELH? Is that the entire ticket money ?

    Sounds interesting,

     

    The club have donated free tickets to NHS employees.  Simply have to give a minimum £5.00 donation to the Hospice.  I have a relative in the NHS who has donated for my 3 tickets.  Should be a bumper attendance with Coventry bringing quite a few.

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  6. 55 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

    The money would be going to Rovers and helping the finances of the club not Waggott in all fairness if it wasn't going to the East Lancs Hospice.

    Waggott is responsible for the finances of the club.  I have no inclination to help him with his job.  The sooner the owners realise he is useless the better for all of us. 

    Although, reluctantly, I do accept that he will bask in the glory of the extra bums on seats.  I live in the (probably vain) hope that the owners will ask why all the extra people turned up.

     

     

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  7. 39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

    Fair.enough..Whilst I understand your frustration about not getting your money as some of people I go attend with had similar problem with no streaming facilities. Im no fan of streaming football at all.. But they have gone this season as season ticket holders as they missed live football and Rovers cos of the pandemic..

    Is that the only reason for not attending Ewood Park games or all games? And do you not missed attending Rovers games? 

    Ok. Do you support them as a second team? Do you feel the same connection to them as Rovers?

    Waggott's point-blank refusal is the reason.  He didn't have the business savvy to engage sympathetically with long-standing ST holders - in my case 44 years.  I'm not the only one who is boycotting for this reason.

    I will be at the Coventry game - but only because my ticket money is going to the East Lancs Hospice, and not to Waggott.

    I have pointed out previously that John Williams didn't begin life at Ewood as a saint.  His original ST and walk on prices were similarly high - I was paying  £95 per month for 2 adults and 3 kids in the BBE Upper.  But he took the time to personally reply to all phone calls, letters and emails of complaints and concerns.  I don't recall fans feeling disengaged during his professional stewardship.

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  8. 52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

    did you take this stance when Kean or Coyle was Rovers manager? 

    and do you feel a connect to AFC Darwen now?

    Keane, Coyle etc didn't refuse to refund ST monies when the season was curtailed.  Some of us are unable to stream, for various reasons - in my case my computer belongs to my employer who will not permit us to stream.  Waggott's point blank refusal to my request was wrong.

    I started going to Ewood in the '60s when memories of the FA Cup Final ticket debacle were still strong.  Many of those who were affected then didn't return for many years.  And I personally know some people who never have at all.  I didn't understand at the time how those people couldn't just let bygones be bygones.  I now fully understand their point of view.

    Re AFC Darwen - I've been going there for years.

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  9. 2 hours ago, 1864roverite said:

    It falls on the shoulders of one man WAGGOT the MAGGOT

    I've continued to attend Ewood Park for the last 50+ years despite other poor managers picking the team - such as Ince, Iley, Pickering etc.  However, I will not pay another penny down there until Swaggot goes.  In my, admittedly relatively small, circle of now non-attenders, all are of the same opinion.  He is the number one issue.  Much more so than Mowbray.

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  10. 1 minute ago, Tugay-is-God said:

    That's just not true, if he was a Rovers academy product, he would still have been snapped up by Liverpool at 15 or thereabouts

    Which is why we are correct to look at rearranging Brockhole.  I may be wrong but the last "very young lad" to come through Brockhole was Buckley and before that possibly Dunn.  All the others - Travis etc - were cast-offs from big city clubs.  We've lost good kids in recent times, poached by big clubs such as Liverpool, City, Everton, Leicester etc.  What's the point in developing Under 8's when the FA now allows them to travel longer distances for Premier League training?  Money talks.

  11. 17 minutes ago, Stuart said:

    Great post. I would just change the last word for “Blackburn people” (and I acknowledge the surrounding area ofc).

    He has never given me the impression that he understands the people he is dealing with. John Williams in contrast got that spot on - even if he did have a better budget.

    Let's not forget that John Williams started out in the same manner as Waggott.  He too increased matchday and ST prices to nose-bleed levels.  I was paying £95 per month for 2 adults and 3 children in the Family Stand.  It prompted lots of complaints from fans, long before message-boards existed outside of the club's own website.  I was one of many who wrote to Williams voicing my concerns about ticket prices for a cup game against then 3rd division Wigan.  The difference was that Williams listened and, more importantly, learned.  He replied with a promise that he would re-examine pricing policy for the following season.  He kept his word.  ST prices were almost halved.  Fans returned in their thousands.  BBE lower was almost filled.  Everybody benefited.  The point being - will Waggott listen?

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  12. Fully agree with most of the points raised so far.  Especially those about the changing watching/viewing/attendance habits of younger generations.  I've been a fan for nearly 60 years and had a ST for over 40 of those.  "Back In The Day", ST holders were few and far between, largely because individual matchday prices were easily affordable to most people.  However, as prices increased, it gradually became more sensible and cost effective to buy a ST.  Today neither I, nor any of my 3 grown-up sons, would ever contemplate attempting to justify spending more on an individual matchday ticket than on the family Saturday night takeaway.  The novelty of iFollow has been interesting, but £10 is the absolute pricing limit for us - and after last week's abhorrant no-show,  non of us can justify paying even this for tomorrow's game.  Mogga may be a "Football Dinosaur", but it's Waggott the "Businessman Dinosaur" who will kill-off our club.  We need a forward-thinking CEO who can empathise with the fans.

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