So where has the £1.5m we bid for Pedersen gone?

Souey's air fares to and from Norway. If he'd just got a video we wouldn't be in this mess!! Souey out!!

I liked the look of Wilhelmsson in last nights Sweden game. He has pace, a great cross and was willing to take people on to the byline...........but I think he's right footed

Yep, he's a good player. He can play on the left and right. Against England a few months back, he played on the left and he terrorised Neville on that flank. Plays for Anderlecht.

So that's Wilhelmsson. Can anybody think of any other players that we can't afford?

We ask the club to be honest with us, and when they are and its bad news they get slated.

But why be honest now when they must realise this could affect season ticket renewals?

Simply because if they are honest after the ST sales are done they'll get a pasting for that.

If there's no money, there's no money. We have to get on with and take what we have. A huge amount was spent this time last year and effectively wasted, this is the price we pay.

Why say anything? I can understand we may have no money but why not just keep quiet and leave us guessing like they do with everything else? If they do have to say something why not tag it onto the statement at the end of the season:-

"We'd like a Central Defender, a Left winger, a forward and a central midfielder to ensure we're not involved in a relegation battle next season but we can only afford Paul Dickov, ok?"

Gets it out of the way well before the renewal packs are sent out that way.

Surely Souey and JW can't have got together and said "We're over halfway though the 2-week claim-your-own-seat window, it's time to tell the world we have no money"

We ask the club to be honest with us, and when they are and its bad news they get slated.

But why be honest now when they must realise this could affect season ticket renewals?

Perhaps because they feel they need to force MGP or Tromsø's hand before taking the De Pedro option? Or to play down the paper talk of a £5M bid for Butt whilst telling Tromsø we can't afford more than £1.5M for MGP.

Hopefully it's a calculated gamble rather than total naivety with regard to the season ticket renewals - although the latter wouldn't surprise me given the New Shirt debacle and late/missing ST renewal packs.

Seeing as we always need a scapegoat I'm going to choose David James.

I'm plumping for Bobby "Kiss of Death" Robson. These aren't actual quotes but they're close...

Clive Tyldesley: "How's the heart condition, Robert?"

Bobby Robson: "It's alright because I think we'll win. We'll see off this dangerous free-kick and play out the last two minutes"

10 secs later : France 1 v 1 England

CT: "Is a draw a fair reflection, Bobby?"

BR: "We just need to keep hold of the ball now, not do anything silly and 1-1 is a good result for us"

10 secs later: France 2 v 1 England

Bring back Big Ron!! He knows how to commentate properly.

CT: "How's the heart condition Ron"

RA: "The heart's okay but the sphincter's gone critical, Clive"

CT: "Is an England win a fair reflection, Ron?"

RA: "If we get a win Clive. I can just that daft ba****d Gerrard putting that fast, french c**n clean through!"

We have found our answer. Never mind geese, swans, tiger sharks, and mallards. Randy Duck was shot 13 times!! 13 times and was still alive!! What about that eh? Hard as nails in more ways than one. The ducks duck. A beast amongst birds and a right swine with the ladies to boot.

Surely the winner?

We have a new face off... Randy Duck vs. Rasputin, for the title of 'Hardest Lurve God'

Follow this link and you'll see that Randy Duck is 6'2" and weighs 15st!! You'll also see that Kendrick has a cone-shaped head and Yorick is very, very pale. No stats for Ruddy Duck at all!!

What would be nice would be a club anthem that we could play just before kick off that opposition fans would associate with us. A pipe dream, I know.

do you not have a copy of the great official rovers song? with sutton over here and gally over there... blah blah...

obviously its out of date but could simply change the players names...

One of the lines was "Ripley's crosses just hit the air". I don't see how we could realistically adapt that. "Emerton's crosses just hit the first defender on the arse" doesn't really fit in.

Biting your nails/ getting no sleep/ breaking out in a cold sweat/ drinking heavily anxious?

I've been like this since the Moorings closed down!

I have to agree with ptholt to an extent - the lack of enthusiasm part anyway. I'm less concerned about the signings/potential signings.

Isn't that just the close season for you though? Enthusiasm starts returning when the fixtures are released and builds when your season ticket arrives, reaching a peak on August 14th 3pm. It will drop slightly following that first defeat only to be re-kindled in mid-October when the new kits are released and dashed again at the start of November when the sponsor's name starts to crack and peel off in the wash.

That's just the way things are when you support Blackburn Rovers. You get used to it.

Release him into the wild. School, TV, magaizines, bullies, cheese and mates are much more of a bigger influence on your kids than you ever will be.

Sadly that's true! I do have less charisma than a block of Lancashire Crumbly!

How depressing.

I'd kill myself but I've just forked out £450 on season tickets so I'll leave it until Christmas.

When he reaches around 16 or 17 you'll wish you had released him into the wild.

Now one important thing. Have you prepared for the big question, the really difficult father to son discussion that's heading your way? This one, unlike the sex thing, you can't leave to his mother, it's far too important.

"Dad why can't I support Manchester United?"

Doesn't matter what you do it will happen at some point, probably at secondary school, first term. Get ready, it's tough going for a while.

Yes, I can safely say I'm dreading that day. Sometimes even now the conversation strays dangerously close to that awkward subject but I manage to quickly head him off with a subtle "I know, why don't I tell you where babies come from?!"

Let him go for his own good!

Do you mean let him go to Ewood or release him into the wild?

Nuclear, experience tells me you have to persevere for 2 or 3 seasons. It works eventually, if you don't the danger is he'll end supporting Utd.

There's no way that's going to happen!! I'll persevere! He's had Blackburn Rovers drummed into him since birth anyway. Rovers romper suits, Rovers bibs, Rovers T-shirts, Rovers shirts - he's seen me wearing all of them. Then there's Rovers books, calendars, programmes and videos all round the house. There's not much more I can do. Just need the team to start performing now...

Morton Pederson 

EVERYONE, looky here !!

Who can find the wrong spelling ??

Morten Gamst Pedersen

Nils Eric Johansson

Martin Andresen

James "Jay" McEveley

Bred Fridel

Is it Fulham?

But can you really see 6/7 year olds really wanting to come and watch Rovers after last season’s games especially at home?

My 7-year old does. It's cost me £75 for a season ticket for him + £5 booking fee to order a seat next to me over the phone (and then they rang me back to say I still have to travel down to the ticket office with his birth certificate before 19th June). How many games he actually attends remains to be seen. It could be money well spent if he stays interested throughout the season or a waste of £80 when he loses interest before the season starts.

He came to a handful of games in the 2002/3 season. The last one of which, we won 2-0 or 2-1. He didn't want to go again that season because it rained on the way out and there weren't enough goals. Other gripes he had were that the scoreboard didn't change often enough, the TV wasn't working and the bloke behind kept saying "Come on Oysterhausen!!".

my season ticket has dropped £70 in price,do you think souey and jw are trying to buy me off.

Wait until you see what they've done to your seat!

Can we have a poll on which injury he's going to pick up 1st? 

Dont be silly, theres no need for a poll! Its going to be the old hamstring

But hamstrings are soooo 2003/4! I fancy metatarsels to make a comeback - they never really took off first time around.

I think Dickov could be a good signing but, like most others on here, I hope he's not a replacement for Cole. I think he does give us something different to what we have. We have no-one to match his work-rate for a start. He can receive the ball to feet with his back to goal and, crucially, control it. He can turn quickly and get shots at goal or win free-kicks around the penalty area.

But who's going to play the ball to his feet? - Yorke and Cole have constantly been trying to control balls fired to them at chest height - a foot above head height for Dickov! Who's going to make runs from midfield to receive the ball from Dickov when he has his back to goal? And who's going to take the free-kicks that Dickov wins?

Overall, I'm quite pleased with the signing. He's a handy player to have around but we'll need to change the way we play to get the most out of him. How many times next season will we hoof the ball upfield in his general direction expecting him to beat a 6'4" defender in the air? How many times will an Emerton cross fly just over his head? And what is the answer to Unleaded's quizzz? We'll just have to wait and see.

I used to be classed as Young Adult

what age is it up to?

Aged 16 to 21 on 31/08/2004

but if I AM 21 at that time, can I still get one?

Yes I think so.

Paul, Under 8's renewals are free but I presume if I want a season ticket for my 7-year old (who didn't have one last year) I have to buy a junior ticket at £70?

Baz, to qualify for loyalty discount you have to have held a season ticket for the last three consecutive seasons 2001/2 2002/3 and 2003/4.

All Dickov needs now, is a song!!

Any thoughts guys.

How about, 'Your suposed to be in jail',oopps!! Sorry, he plays for us now

What number will he be?

"It's nice to know you're 'ere!

It's nice to know you're 'ere!

It's nice to know you're 'ere!"

Dick-ov!!"

I used to be classed as Young Adult

what age is it up to?

Aged 16 to 21 on 31/08/2004

bob fleming braking wind)

Count yourself lucky Alan - I have to sit behind him!!

So, to summarise:-

JW Lower central £480

JW Blackburn End £455

BBE outer - no price change

BBE behind Bob Fleming £12.35 (including free matchday magazine for wafting)

Sorry Glenn I'm being thick here, what has actually happened with the kit?

I'm sure there'll be a postcard dropping through our letterboxes any day now announcing details of the announcing date of the announcement on the new kit deal just to generate a bit of interest before the real thing.

Sorry nuclear - but how the bloody heel does the new fangled system delay getting out the renewal packs

It is without doubt , Rovers would have already had things in place for the new system ages ago - and if they didn't, then that is just amateur.

My theory is they were still pondering what the package would be - which again I find amazing due to the fact that if I am not mistaken, JW stated that they had prepared for relegation a couple of months back.

However, who are we to know as we can only speculate unless advised otherwise, what is clear though, is, it would appear the majority would rather the renewals are sent out earlier rather than later.

They will be waiting for the card manufacturer to produce a prototype with R.A. Sealdinho as the name so that it can be photographed in order to appear in a nice glossy picture in the expensively-produced renewal brochure that nobody reads.

Or they will be waiting for instructions on how the new card system will work to be printed to try to entice a few gadget freaks to sign up just to try it out.

Or they are just amateur.

Maybe all three.

Wow, post arrived this morning.......................

A post card from Rovers............First Class.........

So what does the card say.

MORE TO SHOUT ABOUT

Well this coming season Blackburn Rovers Football Club is committed to giving you the loyal supporter top flight football at an affordable level.

Your Season Ticket Application Pack detailing this seasons offer will arrive any day soon

Claim-Your-Own-Seat Deadline Saturday 19th June

I hope no one is away during the next 3 weeks.

Why not just send out the application pack, and stop wasting postage

I'd imagine they are trying to get the renewal forms out as fast as they can. Why wouldn't they?

It's probably this new-fangled card system thing designed to speed things up that's slowing things down.

Thanks guys.

Just trying to work out whether it's new news, old news or something about flowers.

What does this mean?:-

Men ifølge journalist Andy Neild i Lancashire Evening Telegraph kommer det et bud på 1,5 millioner pund.

I mean, I can pick out some words - Men, journalist, Andy, Neild & bud - but can fit them into a sentence with the rest of it (except "Men say Andy Neild is a budding journalist" - that can't be right!). Is it essentially saying that this info has been taken from the L.E.T. ?