To answer my own question, I have found a good review (in fact ALL the reviews on this site are good - I have no idea why anyone would spend £6 on a console mag every month when this site has every thing you need) - Click

It dosent sound great does it. I am getting sick of these games now that have you wandering around a big city fighting endless battles to carry the story on - Spiderman/Superman Returns etc.

They could do so much more with the content it really angers me at them trying to make a quick bob or two by thowing this tripe out.

Thats movie tie ins for you. I always avoid them like the plague because they are always crap. You could probably name all the good movie tie in titles on your fingers (and I dont include spiderman in that - it was awful)

Oh and as for your point about gaming sites v mags. I agree, and gamespot has to be my favourite. Podcasts, video reviews the lot. But you cant browse the internet on the bog

On Dirt, works perfectly on my 360

Ha Ha. It works on mine too. Always keep your options open......

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Scroll down to the bottom - new trailer coming in three hours

wow, that looks the ds bs. Cant wait till october now!

For those with PC's or those with just general interest in these things.

Have a look at Crysis and Quake - Enemy Territories

After installing the Dirt Demo the other day and crying when it looked more like a slideshow, I dont think crysis will be running on my PC for a while! (I thought i had a half decent GPU with the 7800gtx, obviously not.)

Especially as Vista is going nowhere near my system until next year and that there is only one decent DX10 card available. ATIs offering is a steaming pile of poo which is a shame.

looking forward to Bioshock myself.

I got forza motorsport and Dirt last week (what can i say, I love racing games). Thought I may have made a mistake and that they would be too similar. Couldn't be further from the truth.

Forza

Forza is a dream to play and in my opinion is way better than GT. The amount of cars and options is just overwhelming. The driving model is superb and what they have done with the braking and acceleration zone (rather than a full driving line) is inspired as it makes the game very accessible to non racing game enthusiasts (without making it too easy). You can damage different components in the car and they all affect the car differently when they do get damaged and unlike GT the car body will deform when you crash. I've been having fun lately totally suping up hatch backs to ridculous power levels and then not updating the handling componnets or tires. Just trying to keep the car on the track into the first corner is a challenge! Oh, and non of the silly training modes you have in GT are here, so straight to the racing. You can even auction cars on line - great stuff, however that would only be useful just to get great liveries for the cars. some people have designed awseome ones with the inbuilt car painter.

Couple of gripes. You cant extend the number of laps each race has. However, it does include the best nurburgring ever and has endurance modes for some of the later races. Some of the races can also be a cake walk as all you have to do is buy the best parts for the car and you'll pull away easily.

career mode is spot on, but have yet to try it online. In my opnion the best on road track game you can buy.

Dirt

Its a testament to this game that I though it was going to have to go some to prize me away from Forza 2 for a while. It succeeded, its not been out of the xbox since Friday. Totally different to Forza in that this is for off road racers only. it has about 6/7 types of off road

Rally

Rallycross

Crossover

Hill climb

are the ones I can remember off the top of my head

Whoever designed the menu system for this game wants a medal, totally intuitive and you aren't going all over the place to find yourself around, probably about 5 presses of the "A" button gets you racing. This game blends arcade style handling and adds enough realism into the mix to get you hooked. Nothing like flying over a blind crest in a rally car and then having to handbrake round the next hairpin, all in georgous HD! Best way to describe this game is exhilarating, its not stop action all the way in this game. Unlike Forza its not possible to supe up the car by adding new parts, all you can do is enter another car or try to change the setup (which by the way a novice could do because the commentary over each setup option is superb) so the racing (when its obviously not rallying) tends to be very close. Only vehicle I didn't like were the buggies, they seemed too unpredictable and bounced around too much for my liking.

As you work through the career mode you earn money and can then buy new cars to compete with. Which means you can go back to any races later on if you think you have the better car now. Difficulty is set just right as well, if it seems you are dominating too much the in game commentator will tell you to move it up a level. I'm currently playing at pro am and having very close racing at the mo so i'm pitched just right. The harder the difficulty the more cash you win.

You can also enter a full rally championship season if you want, but i havn't tried that yet as i'm still busy with the career mode.

Gripes. Although I havn't tried it yet, I've heard the online play isn't all that it could be. Buggies are a bit of a let down. Not as comprehensive a car list as Forza plus you cant modify the cars.

All in all two very good and different racing games come out within a week. I'm in heaven.....

I think the reasoning they have used is quite fair and I have to actually say that the game does not appeal in anyway at all.

Taken from that article

Rejecting a work is a very serious action and one which we do not take lightly," said BBFC Director David Cooke. "Where possible we try to consider cuts or, in the case of games, modifications which remove the material which contravenes the Board’s published Guidelines. In the case of Manhunt 2 this has not been possible. Manhunt 2 is distinguishable from recent high-end video games by its unremitting bleakness and callousness of tone in an overall game context which constantly encourages visceral killing with exceptionally little alleviation or distancing. There is sustained and cumulative casual sadism in the way in which these killings are committed, and encouraged, in the game.

Although the difference should not be exaggerated the fact of the game’s unrelenting focus on stalking and brutal slaying and the sheer lack of alternative pleasures on offer to the gamer, together with the different overall narrative context, contribute towards differentiating this submission from the original Manhunt game. That work was classified 18 in 2003, before the BBFC’s recent games research had been undertaken, but was already at the very top end of what the Board judged to be acceptable at that category."

Seems fair enough to me. A game where you play a mental patient terying to escape from the asylum killing anything that gets in your way.......Hmmmmm. However I dont agree with the calls to ban games like GTA and the like - that is a different story. At least in GTA and other games there are consequences to the actions of killing innocent people and plenty of alternatives to doing that - like driving around listening to the sound track or doing the biggest jumps, or god forbid completing the story missions. This games whole point seems to be to murder or kill innocent people in the "best" way possible, of course they were going to come down on it like a ton of bricks. Carmageddons ban got overturned, I cant see that happening with this one, at least in Carmageddon you could just race if you wanted, and lets face it running over a blocky sprite is hardly the same as a laying an axe into a next gen graphic of a mental nurse.....

Lets wait to see the outcome of the inevitable appeal.

So, now then to the big club wannabees, Newcastle, Villa and Boro. Not one are bigger than Rovers on the playing field and not one of these trio will finish higher than Rovers next season, none are in europe and ALL of them hanker of being run like BRFC. I cant see any Rovers first team player going to any club like this UNLESS they pay obviously stupid money.

I see Rovers adding to the quality of the players we already have and finally ridding themselves of the hangers on in Gray and Todd.

The future is Blue and White

I think you under estimate Villas spending power, rumour has it they have a warchest of going on £40m this summer. Anyway, All Benni has been saying through all this saga is that he wants chamions league football. Why would he go to villa, Newcastle or Boro when they aren't even in the intertoto never mind the uefa cup and a million miles away from the CL.

I can see West ham making a cheeky bid, but again, nothing to attract Benni, he's come out recently and said money is not an issue for him.

I honestly believe the only clubs we have to worry about are

Chelsea

Man U

Valencia

Seville

Liverpool

Arsenal

Barcelona

R Madrid

purely because they are in the CL next season and in the best leagues.

Using your logic above, that rules out Chelsea (although the rumours refuse to go away). I cant see Man U buying Benni now as you say (hes too old and would cost what they would consider to be to much for a 29 yr old). Is he really the type of player that Liverpool are after, especially after all the bullish talk of having to spend over £15m on top drawer midfielders and even more for strikers. Wenger would baulk at the price we would ask, plus I dont think he fits into their plans or style of play.

As for the Spanish clubs, it all depends on whether he's willing to move back to Spain now that hes finally realised his dream of playing in the premiership. Lets assume for arguments sake that he would be willing to move back. Madrid and Barcelona forget it, they are after bigger fish. That leaves Seville and Valencia. Hmmm, its not beyond the realms of possibility that one of those clubs will try and lure him back after all his talk of wanting CL football. Even so, i'm not convinced that they will bid and think the prospects of Benni leaving this Summer are slim and all Benni is doing is dreaming of playing in the CL again. If the worst does happen and we do sell him, I believe we will be £15m richer at least.

Anyone going to Wembley 2moro ?

I'm goin, setting off at 1pm

Yep, i'll be there. I only have to travel about 5 tube stops

As good as gone. Ho hum.

I just hope we don't get forced into a position of letting him go for less than he is worth.

10 millionish would be reasonable in light of the new transfer money and his outstanding record. I wonder who Hughes will pull out of the bag this summer?

Agreed, that's as close to "come and get me" as your likely to read. Does anyone think his heart will be in it next season if he does stay? or will he be thinking of what ifs?

I dont want the guy to leave, he's one of the best footballers we've had at ewood in a long time (excluding bellamy). If he does end up in a Chelsea shirt banging the goals in, i dont think you'll be saying he's not contributing enough then, you'll be saying "Wish we had a 20-goal a season striker".

However, if his heart aint in it, let the guy leave, but only for big bucks. My worry is that he'll do to us what he did to Porto, and we'll end up getting screwed on the price.

The way I look at it is that he's only going to move to a champions league club in Spain or England, that leaves us with the following clubs

England

Man U - cant see it as hes too old for Man U. Maybe if they thought they could get him on the cheap.

Arsenal - Not Wengers policy to pay top dollar for 29 year old strikers

Liverpool - maybe, most likely candidate.

Chelsea - There is the Mourinho link, but again are they likely to spend 10m on Benni?

Spain

Barcelona - No chance. too old

Real Madrid - Hes not big enough a player.

Sevilla - Type of club who would buy him. Kanoute is currently with them and is having a blinder

Valencia - They are likely to loose Villa, but would Benni be his replacement? Who knows

Real Zaragoza - Hmmm , if they make the CL its a possibility.

So looking at the list above you have 3 or 4 possibilities

Liverpool

Chelsea

2 from Valencia/Sevilla/Real Zaragoza

So if any of the above clubs offer serious money he'll be off. Anyone else and the club will tell them where to go. That means at least that the likes of Spurs will be told exactly where to go.

No, the game defo came from the movie. The game was a big pile of stinky poo.

Lol..I'm trying to Download Spiderman 3 from the WEB(nephews jokes) .

I've tryed the tv links that somebody left on here,but i need to install divx,whatever that is,but i was looking at the Warriors poster above.I watched that movie years ago,and i remember enjoying it,but i can't remember the story.I've downloaded it from that link , and it's playing perfect.there was another film out at about the same time,the Wanderers.

Whoever put the link up........cheers.

Warriors is a great movie, bought the DVD last year. Basic plot is a bout a NYC gang who are falsly accused of killing another gang leaders member and have to travel through lots rival gangs territory to get back to coney island.

DIVX is just another way of packaging up the movie into a format the computer can understand a bit like mpeg and wmv. You can download the divx codecs (software needed to play them) fairly easily from divx.com and you can normally tell a divx movie as it ends with .avi. Some dvd players actually recognise the format and will play dvd's with Divx movies on them. Once the codec is installed you should be up and running and be able to play the movie in windows media player if you so wish. I personally use media player classic myself as its extremely lightweight

Only issue you might have is sound as some divx movies have surround sound encoded in them, but thats for another topic in the pc and concole section.....

The report I would usually take as definitive is less than glowing.

Flopsy-A History of Violence is superb.

Off to find out tomorrow, it has got mixed reviews so far.

ooo - all part from Children (dull dull dull) are great,

you dont fancy lending me some of those on MP3 does ya?

My favourite dance track is Silence - Delerium (DJ Tiesto mix, featuring Sarah Maclachlan) never tire of listening to that tune.

Bought The Thing for a friends birthday after being reliably informed by several websites that it was one of the scariest movies of all time!

Not sure about it myself! Anyone else think it is scary? And if not what are the scariest films they have seen?

The thing is a great film but my Scariest films would be (all based on my first viewings of them)

The Descent

Wolf Creek

The Omen

Alien

The Shining

Jacob's Ladder

In no particular order.

Fair enough, point taken. On the Shearer point, I bet he used to run defenders ragged! (all before his injury of course).

What we need is someone who can pull defenders out of position to work along side McCarthy and for that we need a pacy striker. Bellamy would have been perfect. If you're a defender who the hell do you pick up!!

I see that under the pro zone system BM is calculated to be doing "a couple of miles" a game . I'd like to see him do a bit more , and wonder how this compares to other strikers .

I seem to remember years and years ago Colin Bell has a speedo fitted to him during a game - he did 5 miles .

Can you elaborate, because I cant see how this will make him a better striker?

I seem to remember Dickov ran his socks off, but however hard he ran he was never going to be a top striker. Andy cole also used to stand around with his hands on his hips but he did alright. I think its more about reading your team mates better than running around like an idiot after the ball. Loose it and i grant you he should drop back and help get it back, but I dont think just running an extra 3 miles is going to help his game.

my new PC's turned up - its very shiny and new.

Vista's awfully pretty

Oh dear. Friend of mine is having nothing but trouble with Vista. Going to avoid like the plague until some decent dx10 cards turn up and the drivers stabalise.

Whats spec is the new baby anyway, cant see you buying anything but a monster!

wrong thread!

I rented severance last night on dvd.

danny dyer is excellent and for a low budget film i thought it was excellent if you enjoy comedy/horror films.

Class film

Fave scene was where he wa high on magic mushrooms at the start.

I know most of you are sad console types, but if like me you're a PC Gamer may I suggest you have a look at these:

1)

- Makes Command and Conquer look like playing with micromachines in a sandbox;

talking of which

2) Kane Returns

Not like RTS? Well then there's

3)

Or this could possibly the greatest, most unique, most challenging and genre breaking game since some bloke thought that rearanging different shaped blocks into rows was more addictive than Crack Cocaine

4) Cherynoble as a holiday destination? STALKER

However, and here's the big however - you'll need a decent PC and graphics card for these.

But hey thats what inheritance is for - thanks gran.

Why not just enjoy what both can offer since you can obviously afford it. I do!

got a ps2, 360 and top notch pc and am in gaming heaven.

That way you get to buy the best version of most games e.g.

Splinter cell on PC - bug ridden. On 360 - superb

Rainbow 6 is better on 360 as well

pes 6 on a PC - forget it.

same goes for Burnout

having said that

Far cry, Fear, call of duty et all all play miles better on the PC. I wouldn't even consider an RTS on a console. And there was no way I was going to buy the 360 version of Oblivion (twas £20 cheaper on PC as well)

As for your selection there, Crysis looks superb, but a bit reticent about having to upgrade to Vista to get the most out of it.

2 Games I am looking forward to are Bioshock and Alan Wake (another vista upgrade required to get the best out of it) both on 360 as well for you console junkies.

Alan Wake

Bioshock

So, has anyonme managed to get their hands on a wii???

seems that pre-ordering one was no guarantee of getting one!

Is it possible to set up a wireless connection for the xbox using a wireless key, but not the xbox one?

yes (and this is all from memory), setup the connection as normal (it auto detects if I remember correctly), when it asks for the key or password type in the one setup on the router and it should be plain sailing from then on.

have a good one everyone i'm off to vegas for a week.

Just finished the first level demo of F.E.A.R. and it is every bit as good as the PC version. Still very freaky and the graphics are excellent.

I just cannot play FPS games on a console. After playing FPS games for years on the PC I am all over the place with the controls when playing on a console.

PC for FPS, RTS, RPG and adventure games

console for racing, sports, 3rd person (GTA, lego star wars) and platform games

both can now boast very good online gaming thanks to the 360 and xbox live

DOH! just realised it was for 2008!

just as much an incentive to get into next years comp