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4 minutes ago, Neal said:

Regarding Trav, I suspect he isn't going to sign a contract and is stringing us along to go to Derby on a bigger wage in a year under a gentleman's agreement. If so, get him sold now. I know he's the club captain, I know things are shit at the club but just take the money and get a few more bodies in the door. 

 

You can't have your captain not being 100% commited, players will pick up on it. 

Who says he isn't committed?

10 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Then sell him.

He's not a good enough footballer to be effective if his head has been turned. Nor is he going to be an effective captain if he wants away.

He hasn't been offered a contract. So any head turning or wanting away has been caused by Rovers making it clear he won't be getting a suitable offer to stay here. 

31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Surely we can't need to sell Travis. 

We need all of them - out season fell apart last year when our starting CMs got injured. 

We want rid, hence not offering him a new deal, as confirmed multiple times by the player himself. 

3 minutes ago, TruRover said:

Why? Axel will compete with Cantwell. He’s an attacking midfielder who is aggressive and strong in the press. Perfect for VI. 
 

Travis, Tronstad and Taveres then compete for the defensive midfield role with Montgomery and Forshaw as back up. 

I would argue if Baradj came in then maybe one of them would have to leave. But Forshaw isn’t going to get games and Montgomery seemingly will be more utilised at RB. So 4 CMs competing for those 2 spots behind the advanced midfielder seems healthy. 

We don't sign players to compete, much less spend 6-7 figure sums on them. 

We sign players to play. We don't want a squad we want a first XI with the bench made up of low cost loans and youngsters who can step in when needed.

I would be amazed if we spent money on players to come in and challenge those already here. 

Blackpool under the Oystons and Accy Stanley under their pre-Holt ownership used to basically sign a new squad every summer as their previous group were released/sold off to clubs with ambition/loans returned.

Not sustainable and not a plan but they probably signed more players than anyone else, a direct result of the short term approach they selected in a bid to minimise costs.

It involves taking an almighty gamble with league status every year in the hope those signed are good enough to avoid relegation.

I think Chaddy and others would have loved supporting either of those clubs as they could spend every summer excitedly discussing what signings were coming whilst proven players rushed for the exit door.

If you think that 'model' is sustainable or acceptable for this club or division you're wrong. 

Those most qualified - Mowbray, JDT, Eustace - knew this which is why they aren't here any more.

The Consultation Meetings used to be recorded / broadcast on the radio so that everyone could directly hear what was said by the club. 

By comparison this nonsense over minutes is absolutely outrageous given it is the only way fans can find out about how the club is being run.

If the joke that is the EFL had any interest or backbone they would not be accepting this arrangement as being compliant with their regulations on supporter communication/consultation.

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

I think the truth of the matter is the owners decided a good few years ago, before this farce, that they were reducing funding but this reared up out of nowhere.

Hence there's never really appeared to be much rush to resolve it or bite the bullet and adhere to the conditions that were set out.

They did that back in 2015 and it relegated us. It was only after relegation in 2017 and sitting down with Mowbray they were persuaded to change track and have a spend again to get us back up. By COVID and 2021 they'd got fed up again and cut Mowbray's funding. Since then it has been cut after cut after cut with a noticeable further cut in summer 2023 after their legal issues emerged.

6 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Is it only me who is bored stiff of this stuff? Why would owners who don’t give a fuck about the club set a perceived false agenda? To safe face? Give me a break. 

The owners don't do anything. They don't care, never have, never will. 

But they don't like it when they and their subordinates attract attention in the media. They think they are gods and expect to be thanked and revered as such. Their underlings want the status quo to continue as it keeps them in cushy and lucrative employment. 

The best way for them to ensure that their gravy train ride continues is to keep the owners under the impression that all is well and everyone is happy, and the best way of conning the fanbase into believing that is by making out as though the owners are backing the club, investing, wanting it to do better.

No evidence for any of it, as they couldn't really care less about what happens at the club, but costs nothing for the stooges to drip exaggerated figures to people like Nixon and Jackson, and in return they get the deluded fans lapping it up, maybe even buying tickets off the back of it to help with their annual figures.

Coming together as one! | rovers.co.uk

July 2023 - Waggott boasting about continuing to attend both Fans Forum and Supporter Consultation Meetings, even though the latter he disbanded three years previous during Covid under safety reasons and haven't occurred since. 

They're laughing at us.

20 minutes ago, ObiWhan8t7 said:

Experience is getting sold/walking on a free and this will have an impact on rest of squad. Just get the feeling that majority of squad squad want out. Dolan, Batth,Brittain, Weimann were all big personalities in the squad and it’s got to turn a few more heads to believe they’re futures lie somewhere else 

When you look at the despicable way the club has conducted itself in recent transfer windows (McGuire, O'Brien) together with the outrageous departures mid-season of JDT and Eustace, together with the complete and utter inertia on new contracts for key players, joining those few dots together tells me that this is not a club that any self-respecting individual would want to stay at. 

We are basically a vessel for younger/foreign players who need a route into English football / staff who can't get work elsewhere to come in and use us for a season or two before they move on to the bright lights of places like Derby and Middlesbrough. 

I expect that this club's reputation and name is in the gutter when it comes to doing deals with other clubs/players after the conduct we have witnessed in recent years. They don't care about that though. 

3 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Not a fan of these "goodbye, it's me, not you," videos to fans.

To say the least.

A new feature of the regime is to 'soften the blow' of a popular player departing by throwing together a short video at Brockhall about what great times we've had. I think it began when they were seeing off people like Bennett, Graham and Dack, then there was the Adam Wharton 'always be a Rover' one and now it is common practice to do it with every half popular player. 

In contrast to the old way of things we had where they just bundled the player out the back door with a couple of sentences on the club website. 

One thing I'll give credit to the Venky stooge for is that he's learned the ways of manipulating the fanbase during his time in control.

It was a bit of a circus back in 2015-16 but over time he's learned that a lot of fans will quickly forgive and forget provided the club does a little bit of PR work to go with it. 

They can almost make the operation appear normal and make out as though our activity is just all part and parcel of life. 

That and getting Jackson and Nixon doing the dirty work with 'player imminently signing non-existent contract offer' and 'Rovers backed into a corner by player' drivel. 

Venkys' summer costs covered in one deal and to make matters better another pesky player demanding Championship level wages out of the way.

Pat on the back for chief Venky stooge Pasha as he earns his corn downgrading the club. 

And to put the icing on the cake some supporters, admittedly few in number, are falling for the 'unreasonable player' line again in their desperate deluded bid to blame anyone and anything but the utter lowlife owning and destroying BRFC.

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I did say a few days before hand I thought the game would be live streamed on YouTube. 

On why fans weren't allowed, that was linked to trouble in a friendly 2012 Blackburn Rovers won't rule out supporter action after cancelled friendly - Sports Mole

Who come we have played this weekend, alot of PL teams overseas so who could we play instead? 

I'll ask again - why was the game only announced less than 2 weeks ago after having a blank weekend in the diary for months?

And more importantly why are Rovers agreeing to / arranging a game - the final friendly before the season starts in our 150th anniversary season - not behind closed doors but open to home fans and closed to away fans?

If I was running Rovers and Nijmegen or their local authorities started coming with that sort of stuff I would have told them to 'do one' and found someone else to play who was willing to accommodate both home and away fans. 

I went to Holland in 2012 and whatever 'trouble' there was blown out of all proportion and there was very little evidence of any trouble or risk of it. Why that means 13 years later a hundred or so people couldn't go to watch a friendly I'm not sure. 

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Been good social media plus fans being able to see all 3 overseas games. 

Yes the club deserves lots of credit for hastily arranging an overseas game on the basis home fans are allowed in to watch but away fans are banned (for no good reason) but at least Rovers announced 30 minutes before kick off that we could watch it on YouTube.

Brilliant that.

31 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's only transitional because the Club CHOSE not to back Eustace and extend the contracts of himself or any key players.

Any normal Club having got to the position we were in in January would have moved heaven and earth to

a) Keep the manager happy

b) Extend the contracts of key players

and

c) Make a proper push for the plays offs not bring in a load of players who weren't match fit

Instead.... .. 

True story. And then they seriously think that the passage of a few months, the summer break, a few new cheap signings and a new season makes it all ok and that we should just forget the events of the last couple of years and move on. Some people might be able to close their minds to it and get on with it but I can't, not when the creators of all the above are still in place. Any changes are superficial and cosmetic whilst the owners and their stooge remain.

They haven't bothered filing Waggott's departure with Companies House, haven't even formally announced the departure of David Low nor have they bothered to find a replacement to lead the organisation.

I don't think they will be taking the Forum Minutes too seriously myself 

We flew out to Amsterdam this morning, then had to get a coach from the airport to Nijmegen, fit a meal in somewhere, play the game, get washed and changed afterwards, back from Nijmegen to Amsterdam and then fly home tonight.

No wonder they looked knackered.

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Did we determine if this could be watched legally, anywhere?

https://www.nec-nijmegen.nl/nieuws/nieuws/bezoekersinformatie-n.e.c.-blackburn-rovers.htm

This says it will be shown live on NEC TV. But on inspection I cannot see any mention of it on there, nor details as to cost or whether you need a subscription

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Never seen so much interest in the minutes on here 👏

It's because despite all the claims, boasts and lies from the club about the importance of communication with fans in practice unless you know someone behind the scenes the only chance the general fanbase have to discover what is going on is by waiting for occasional forum meetings and then waiting for the minutes released weeks later.

They've done their best to remove all other forms of communication including consultation and shareholder meetings and I'm sure they'd get rid of forum meetings too if they could.

Because what they claim and what they actually do are the opposite. It sounds good to say you value communication. In practice they do the absolute minimum and have the media wrapped around their fingers too.

Gueye to Al Wadha?

Venky stooges could be toasting a very good week indeed if they can sell him and Brittain!

28 minutes ago, neophox said:

Tronstad will stay 29 years old...won't command a big fee better keep and he may sign a new deal. U

How will he sign a new deal if he isn't offered one?