Was he the one who drove around Blackburn and said we looked poor and downtrodden?

2 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

Did Pete play for the first team...?

Yeah he played against Millwall away. I think it was the game after Mackay got sacked in 91. Tony Parkes was caretaker. He passes to Garner just before Johnrose scores.

Watch "05-10-1991 Millwall v Blackburn Rovers" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/G6RGghLLo7g

16 hours ago, Nuttall is lost said:

Ewood Park is too big for Blackburn.  A 15,000-20,000 capacity stadium would have been plenty.

This looks like it's been cut and paste from a claret/pne forum! 😅

Peter Baah too.

James Beattie. Born in Lancaster but lived in Blackburn from a baby in a Rovers supporting family.

Apparently we'd sold about 1000 as of 12pm today.

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Some will be, but not large amounts, as there is a large core of folk who only ever buy match tickets due to their commitments and general approach to match going.

I'm sure done your research on this Matty and hats off to you! Fingers crossed that the club are as on the ball as you are. 

2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Not true. If one season ends with 8500 ST holders, and the season after we have 7,200, as there is always a similar numbers of walk ons, even if we are doing better on the pitch, the home crowd will have fallen by approximately that number in the following season.

Facts are facts, no ‘guessing’ from me.
 

I suppose the crux is how many of those 1300 walk ons were previously st holders.

9 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

Overall crowds don't fall because season tickets fall. They'll both fall or rise togther, mainly as a result of success on the pitch; they're both symptoms of the same thing.

Anyway, we're just guessing and surmising here. The source of truth will be the club's commericial and marketing teams. Or it should be!

Absolutely, if the walk ons were comprised of say approx 60% lapse season ticket holders and 40% pure walk ons, that's quite a different task than walk ons being approx 10% lapsed st holders and  90% pure walk ons.

And yes the club have got to get some kind of approximation to know what they're dealing with......even a bit of stats regression might do the job!

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

That’s it, Beafo.

Well hopefully the club have the data to ascertain that on an individual basis and know for definite. Its useful info!

21 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

The home crowd attendance figures over the seasons categorically state that isn’t the case, as I’ve said above, when x amount of ST holders don’t renew in a summer, the vast majority stop coming entirely, which is mirrored in a home crowd reduction the following season.

* Believe you me, I’m sad enough to have combed through the figures…

I thimk I can see your thinking here. ie that generally the people who are walk ons are always just walk ons......and the season tickets holders generally either buy one or just dont come at all and it's those that we need to attract?

21 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

No, it doesn’t usually work like that. If you look at our average gates through the seasons, whatever the increase or decrease has been in ST sales that summer, the average home crowd will mirror that increase or decrease.

Which makes sense, as many floating fans aren’t interested in a ST and will buy a match ticket when they fancy, with more of said floaters getting involved when we are doing well, whilst when a ST holder doesn’t renew they often just disappear entirely. 
 

If I'm honest Matty, that doesn't make sense to me. Im no expert but that would mean that if we sold 10000 season tickets then an extra 3000 would be walks on that aren't currently walking on. 

21 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

A million percent THIS. Just invites the opposition fans to take the piss, and gives me the impression that getting crowds of 13/14k is seen as a big achievement by the club, not a mere starting point in trying to re-build the fanbase.

And as for that PA announcer… ‘the officials have agreed 3 minutes of added time’… agreed with who?! Bring back the other (local) fella, not this fish out of water southern bloke who sounds like he’s never even been to a game of football before he somehow pitched up here.

 

But what I would say, night games pre Christmas were attracting about 8,800 home fans, so a 3k rise on that is a big positive, Boro the same, with both games on ‘proper’ Sky too.

I will labour my ongoing point, crowds are rising, and rising substantially, but from a very low base due to the terrible summer of season ticket sales were we scraped to 7k. If we still had the 10k+ ST holders of not that long ago, then last night would have seen us pushing a 17k crowd which would be plenty for a second tier night game.

This summer, we cannot, whatever division we end up in, have another sales debacle like summer 2021.

I hope you're right. If we had sold 10,000 season ticket, where would the current 3,000 extra be coming from? Surely most of them are people who decided against a season ticket in the first place. Meaning that the extra 3000 we would needed to reach 17,000 would be people who haven't started coming back.

Paul McKinnon seen in John's Cut Price.

15 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

A name thats cropped up, no club, short deal end of season, not sure money be a lot. Dont know if much in it, was mentioned in passing.

Mentioned in passing by someone on the Internet pal, or someone who knows things? Genuine question.

26 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

But we are “The Rovers”?

Defo The Rovers.

1 hour ago, JoeH said:

But we didn't put on suncream, everybody knows that. That decision was taken, right at the start of the holiday. Does that mean we shouldn't put the Aloe Vera on now? Does it mean we should spent the next 13 days of the all-inclusive discussing the error in judgement? 

To me a closer analogy is that you know you need suncream but the person with the suncream doesn't put it on for you. You're powerless to do anything and so as a result you don't trust thay person and worry about their reliability from that point on.

2 hours ago, JBiz said:

People said the exact thing about a guy who just scored 20 goals in 23 appearances.

They also said the same thing before he’d had a consistent run of games.

They also said the same when he was playing out of position.

Perhaps it’s better to be open minded about what SG can achieve if he’s given a fair crack, in his best position, in hope that he won’t be picking up any more niggling injuries.

 

Absolutely!!!

7 hours ago, rigger said:

I will always want Mowbray gone. Results will not change my opinion of him.

Genuine qurstion pal but if you're not judging him on results is it down to something like his involvement in the training ground sale. I can def understand your thinking if so.

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Oh of course, always great to get chatting to all the random folk supporting the Rovers on southern away days.

I think the same applies to most northern teams.

I don't remember us claiming to be s sleeping giant. They did!

Looks like they're struggling to sell tickets for Wolves away tomorrow night.

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2021/11/29/wolves-to-have-largest-home-support-of-the-season-against-burnley/

One of those two divisions we are hovering between, we've never been in and the other for only 7 years. There's plenty of muck you could chuck at us, but that's just factually incorrect. 

On 17/11/2021 at 05:25, infoman said:

Hope as many of you can make the trip Bristol on 20 november

The "other lot" are at home against Tranmere so you might bump into Tranmere followers en route to Bristol

Please buy your match day tickets in advance as their will be no pay on the day and this will not be altered

I understand the ticket allocation is 1,500,how are the sales progressing?

Just been checking the away folloeing in the last few seasons.

2015/16 953

2016/17 556

2018/2019 ????????? unable

2019/20 659

2020/21 Covis restrictions

Match day programmes will be on line only and I am lead to understand they will be FREE to look at on line for match day ticket holders

Parking is normally in the streets around the area as long as you are there by 1pm please don't block drive ways or park on corners.

COMING BY ROAD

Head to avonmouth junction 18 on the M5 and follow the route A4 Bristol Airport along what is known as the Portway under the Clifton suspension bridge and the ground will appear in the distance

TRAINS

If you are coming down by train,an appeal to purchase the tickets to PARSON STREET station.Its the same price and it gives us(Bristol City) ammunition to get better facilities for the official train station for Ashton gate until we get a new train station opened nearer to ashton gate

Train time are XX:27 past the hour which takes you two thirds of the way to the ground and then walk the rest of the way ,although there is a 13:56 departure from Parson Street which is good arrival time for the train from the North of England at 13:40pm

On the return its a good time from Parson Street at 17:25pm

On your way to the ground we have our statue of John Atyeo in the home section at the Winterstoke Road end

Casualty and Holby City were filmed in the City don't ask me about either of the programmes cos I think their both rubbish

The young ones was also filmed in the BS7 area of the City(actually its Bishopston)

Finally the block of flats on the left behind the dolman stand side as you are in the away end is "the" block of flats in "fools and horses"

Bring your camera and turn up early if you want to take any photo's

Pubs possibly best one are in the cumberland road basin area novia scotia pump house and the cottage.

suggest park your car and then walk to the ground.

Harbourside area of the central area is very good

BBC Radio station is radio Bristol which has frequencies and 94:9 and DAB (and 95:5 up till 3pm),

with full match day commentary on BBC radio Bristol which should be on 94:9(if not it will be on Bristol DAB

Bristol seems have become the English Hollywood with recent dramas filmed in the City being

The outlawsShowtrial, The Girl Before and Chloe and The Long Call

Please circulate to other football sites you deem necessary

If you need any further info ask away and I don't bite

 

 

 

Cheers lad.

On 06/11/2021 at 11:43, oldjamfan1 said:

Most of the info is on the website - this is a useful page https://www.roverstrust.com/about-us/

I would add that the more members the trust has, the louder it’s voice will be. We have done a lot of work behind the scenes but we want to step things up now and once I’ve recovered from a forthcoming operation I will be tasked with increasing membership, which I will do 😉

Many people were prepared to pay around a tenner to stream a Rovers game from an empty stadium last season - it’s not a lot to ask to pay the same amount for annual membership and to try and protect the club and it’s heritage.

I’ll get off my soap box for now but as above - DM me if you want any further details and I know that John, the chair of the Trust is always happy for people to contact him for info too at chair@roverstrust.co.uk

Every credit to you pal. Fans of the future will benefit from the selfless time that you and others are putting in.