49 minutes ago, riverholmes said:

As an increasingly pessimistic fan, I would be interested to know, do others really want to see Rovers in the lucrative cartel that is the Premier League, without a mega-rich investor owner? Obviously, it would be a huge financial boost but, the cost of players to try to compete would also be astronomical - and even more so as inflation is likely to continue to rise with the latest oligarchs investing. Even then, Rovers would likely be humiliated every other game and get relegated. Efforts to stay up would likely necessitate resort to ultra negative tactics, only to delay the inevitable.

It may be the best model for Rovers to try to follow Norwich and Fulham and be a "parachute payment" club that jumps up and down but a season of humiliation in the Premier League barely interests me. Perhaps, I'm being overly pessimistic, for Brentford fans might be quite satisfied at the moment, suggesting that you can compete with the right style. But, I suspect, they will only enjoy it for a season or two.

Obviously, these thoughts are far removed from Rovers reality, which is not really in the promotion mix. 

Edit: I suppose occasionally getting into the Premier League and absorbing the financial injection is a pre-requisite for staying competitive in the Championship and long-term survival as a club. So the answer must be yes to the Premier League, despite everything. 

 

 

I suspect it is likely we will see "PL2" sooner rather than later. This may well see the pyramid with promotion/relegation as we know it gone.

1 hour ago, RoverDom said:

Glass houses, remember Ronaldinho 🤣

 

The sleeping giant who hasn't won anyone since 1950s. Its not sleeping, it's in a coma.

I don't normally like Jaason Cundy but he said something along the lines of they're a big club in Newcastle, not England 

Not been champions of England in just shy of a century. I think Cundy has it about right.

The are not a glamour club and they aren’t a London club. We all know money talks but if they want the big name foreign signings they will need to pay significant premiums on wages etc. 
 

Now we are foreign owned I think that leaves only a few clubs truly British owned - Norwich, Brighton and Brentford spring to mind, maybe Palace? If so then the infamous overseas games could soon become a reality - maybe the phrase ‘can they do it on a sweltering Sunday in Riyadh’ will replace ‘a rainy Tuesday in Burnley.’

*forgot West Ham.

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

Am I reading you right longsiders? Even though the likes of Palace and Southampton aren’t interested in Dyche, the sovereign wealth fund of one of the richest regimes on Earth, who are in a sportwashing arms race with Qatar are going to take him?

57 minutes ago, rigger said:

I would doubt very much if Newcastles next manager will be British. I would guess at Zidane.

40 minutes ago, Kie_BRFC said:

Be some marquee appointment that wouldn't it 🤥

Now now lads, I mentioned marquee and Dyche in two completely seperate points. No I don't think they will even consider him, what was it big Sam used to say about changing his name to Alladychio? Giovanni Dycio has ring maybe?

They will want a name, no idea who that will be, Conti, Zidane? They might go British for the "story" though? Maybe give Howe a chance with finance, after all he plays pretty football. My point re Dyche is simply taking him would have the biggest, most immediate impact on our season.

My limited view on this is that in general these oil sheiks and oligarchs have and continue to skew the competition. We all often talk about the amazing Leicester win whilst "forgetting" they went bump, didn't pay local contractors and then were bankrolled to success by a billionaire owner. But thats just how it is and we have to accept that.

Where I struggle is the with sport washing of individuals and regimes. Joe Strummer once sang that "if Adolf Hitler flew in today, they'd send a limosine anyway". This was in 1978 and things have only got worse since then. More recently Ricky Gervais said "If ISIS started a streaming service, you'd call your agent, wouldn't you?" at the Golden Globes. It is rank hypocrisy and yet another nail in my football support coffin.

As for it making our situation worse, 2 points. Firstly I'm not convinced it does, at least not short term. They have to recruit and then integrate. They might get it right but they aren't likely to go for a Big Sam and I'm not convinced they can get a manager who is a "marquee" appointment AND has it in their locker to turn out a team that will scrap for the results. That said they might decide to take Dyche and that would make it much worse for us. That aside if we can't be better than 3 other teams, regardless of takeovers etc, then we deserve to go down. That is how it works, for now, until the European Super League raises its head again.

On 24/09/2021 at 14:53, Sparks Rover said:

Was it like the BMX chase on ET? 

😁

Sorry I missed this post. Sadly it was much less entertaining. At the time they seemed like huge angry aggresive men who planned to beat up a kid but looking back they were just slightly pissed lads having a bit of a laugh - seeing me pedal away furiously close to pooing my pants was undoubtedly very funny - I'm sure the win was more enjoyable though 😡

On the surface it appears to be a bit of a non story, an attempt to tidy up or "be fair" however I think if they we able to purchase these shares that would take them to over 90%. I have a dim memory of a change in rights if/when you get above 90% - like you can force any remaining shareholders to sell etc but I'm no expert. I don't own any shares but the idea of a cash and store credit offer wouldn't appeal to me - feels like trying to get them on the cheap.

They currently have around 84% so in terms of control and direction it probably doesn't make much difference as far as I could imagine but I'm no expert in company law and I don't know what the companies articles etc might say that might make this more significant than it initially appears.

35 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Can I asked how you played against Norwich and was a point a fair results? 

is Dyche still playing the same tactics and formation as last season? 

Where are those fixtures home or away?

Tactics are pretty much the same - though when the front Pairing is Vydra/Wood there is subtle difference to two big men up top. I'm not sure but I suspect when Cornet is fit we may see some further small tactical differences as he would add additional options.

We played reasonably well against Norwich - and for me deserved 2 penalties. We should have won but are lacking a cutting edge in front of goal. Wood needs to find his shooting boots again and really we need Vydra fit and starting for me. So I didn't think a point was exactly fair but I also didn't think we created enough clear chances to win the game.

Brentford and Palace are at home - however we can't win at home at the minute so the away fixtures might be our best option.

5 hours ago, Claytons Left Boot said:

Just looked at Beunlah’s fixtures for the remainder of October and November and can’t see many points coming their way. Won’t be long.

Oh I don't know about that - Southampton, Brentford, Wolves and Palace are all beatable - not saying we will of course but a result is more than achievable. I'll accept I don't expect much from Chelsea/City/Spurs.

On 03/10/2021 at 08:33, arbitro said:

How on earth did Burnley not get a penalty yesterday for an assault by Krul on Vydra? Dyche is becoming an expert at playing the victim card but yesterday he had a case. What on earth is the VAR looking at.

The trip by Hanley looked nailed on as well. All that said, when you fail to beat bottom of the league who have lost their opening 6 games you are in real trouble. 

11 hours ago, SuperBrfc said:

I didn't see any of the other games, but Liverpool v City was a belter. Liverpool don't have the same intensity to their game as they did two years, but they still had enough quality to hurt City. That Salah goal was a brilliant piece of skill. Liverpool are making a decent fist of it for now, but I think they are going to tail off come January when the Africa Cup of Nations starts.

I still think City are the team to beat. They were impressive at Chelsea last weekend and were very good again today, fighting back twice. Even though they conceded twice today, they have looked the best defensively up to this point.

Foden showed his quality by putting in a big performance in arguably their biggest game. I thought Bernardo Silva was excellent again, as he was against Chelsea. It's like the ball is glued to his foot when he dribbles, it's not easy to take the ball off him. He also plays a key role in City winning the ball back from the opposition.

Looking at who they play next, an 8-0 home win would be perfect.

Well it's usually 5 they put passed us but the way we are playing right now 8 isn't out of the question.

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

@longsiders1882, what do you think of the start to the season? on Dyche, has any changes been made since the take over happen? have the new owners change any boardroom staff around?

Well in terms of the season, poor start but we’ve added a couple of players and Dyche you’d imagine will slowly turn it around - no guarantee of course but he’s our best shot.

The changes are happening around the club. It’s all becoming more ‘corporate’. Yes this means better organised but with each step forward it feels like a little of the soul is lost. They have and continue to change staff and bring in new processes and procedures to make us a modern company. Trouble is that makes me feel like a customer rather than a part of the club. I know it is just the modern world and I’m just an old b*****d railing against the dying of the light but even my youngest son (19) is getting a little disillusioned by it all.

3 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

After 1987 when every Rovers fan was praying and ready to dance on their grave hoping that Burnley would not beat Leyton Orient and slip out of the football league and  probably never  recover you really cant blame them K-Hod!

Chuck in the 'staying down forever banner ' in 1991 ..we ll never ever get any sympathy for our predicament off Burnley fans...they simply despise us!

What goes around ..comes around ..

As it goes I often, through gritted teeth, pointed down the M65 as the model for how we needed to run our club in the days pre venky's. We found our own way of doing it and did it well but ultimately the Premier League riches turned the heads of our "owners who are fans" and they took the money.

Whilst I of course have enjoyed some of your troubles under Venky's and the associated hangers on - as pointed out '87, '91 etc and a scary chase on my BMX from some Rovers fans in '82, I was on my BMX not the Rovers fans - I would never want you to go bump. Like it or not the local rivalries are a large part of why we bother so I want you to continue, just at least one division below us for another few decades.

I guess the simple reality now for us (Burnley) is we will survive as long as we can stay in the PL, perhaps a single season in the Championship. For all you trilas under Venky's they continue it seems to be happy to keep you afloat with no expectation of getting their cash back.

21 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

They surely have money put away? They have maintained a good Championship squad whilst receiving huge amounts of TV revenue. 

If they do go down and Dyche stays, they will walk the Championship the following season, calling it now 

We had loads of money - and the new owners used it to buy the club. Thye put around 15 million of their own money in, somewhere around 60 million of the clubs money and borrowed the rest.

Anyone fancy any chips with your salt? 😁

55 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

What has the football world come to?

44 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

In terms of excitement it's not what it was, that's for sure.

I can't get excited when I know the manager and team won't really be trying. It's s*** but this is the world we live in. The club is now - and has to be - all about the "business", the money. Pragmatism over romanticism. I can see a day soon where I just give up on it altogether.

15 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

8 points clear of the bottom 3 though Longers, if ever there was a time to 'go for it' in the FA Cup it was last night surely?

8 points but three games coming up (Palace, Fulham and West Brom) which will likely decide whether we get relegated or not.

I don't like Dyche's approach to cups and actually think this was a great chance to give it a go but it's just not in him. I'm not even sure if we were safe in 10th he'd give it a go. And I don't want to take anything away from Bournemouth, they deserved it and you can only beat what is put in front of you. Last decent go we had in a cup was in the Coyle promotion season, I've given up on them now.

A weakened side with the experienced players not looking overly interested. No surprise as it's been Dyche's hallmark since he came to us. Everyone knows he doesn't care about the cups and that must come across to the players.

Still fair play to Bournemouth, easily the better side on the night and deserved a comfortable win.

On 05/04/2020 at 12:56, Silas said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jon-walters-coates-4020575.amp

In amongst all the bad press of this,  let's give some credit where it's due.

Denise Coates is one of the highest paid women in the World and takes a lot of flack because of the negative connotations attached to gambling. 

But in 2019, she was the single biggest personal tax contributor in the Uk.

Her company paid more taxes in 1 year than Amazon has in 20 years.

She doesn't hide all her money in offshore accounts and fiddle the system. 

And Stoke were one of the first to assure all their staff they will receive full pay for the next 5 months. And, as I understand it, they won't take a penny from the Government. 

Very impressive stuff. 

On 07/04/2020 at 10:33, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't think you can put Norwich and Bournemouth in the same financial category as Spurs and Liverpool though. 

Newcastle are a bit of an exception as Ashley wants to sell therefore he probably doesn't see why he should fund this current loss if he can (legitimately) get away with it.

Just for the record we immediately said we would pay all staff and would not be using the government scheme. In premier league terms we are not rich, we don't have a rich benefactor. If we can afford it then most of the others surely can?

On 31/03/2020 at 16:17, Claytons Left Boot said:

Not sure where you got that from. I spoke to a guy who was on the film set as a mill worker and he said it was filmed in Saltaire. No mention of Burnley.

Much of it was however they filmed at Queen Street Mill in Burnley as well.

On 31/03/2020 at 15:27, K-Hod said:

Absolutely. It was set over 100 years ago and they wanted it to look authentic ?.

?

On 18/03/2020 at 08:06, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

"As is the dramatist's prerogative, Julian Fellowes has taken some artistic licence. The 1883 FA Cup Final was contested between Old Etonians and Blackburn Olympic. But Suter never played for Blackburn Olympic."

"He actually played for local rivals Blackburn Rovers, who went on to lift the cup for the subsequent three years. For the purposes of the TV show, the two teams have been merged to make one club simply called Blackburn."

 

So it's a Historical period Drama that's Historically incorrect and the ultimate insult, they have 'Blackburn' playing in ferking shyte Claret and Blue?...what a piss take!!

How disappointing, neither Rovers or Olympic mentioned possibly to avoid 'Waggott tax' film royalties?.As mentioned,our club should have been all over this.

and of course filmed some of it in Burnley too ?

On 02/01/2020 at 18:32, simongarnerisgod said:

couple of preston fans where i work,they suddenly become extremely noisy when they win a few games and do their customary "play off drive!", for some reason they` ve developed an extreme dislike of rovers which is not mutual,i don`t even see them as rivals,when i was little my dad used to take us to deepdale when rovers were away ,when asked about this strange form of hatred they could only mumble something about jack walker and buying the league,complete bollocks of course,it was 25 years ago and what it had to do with preston in those days is beyond me,pretty sure we wer`nt in the same division,in a way they are the same as burnley fans ,both see themselves as sleeping giants(in prestons case it`s more like dead corpses),do rovers fans see them as rivals??i view bolton,burnley and even oldham in my dislike league more than preston

Strange they are so keen on the play offs with their record in them ...

1 hour ago, BRFC64 said:

You mean like this?

I really can't imagine this happening between, for example, Manchester United and Liverpool. But that is the German equivalent...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/02/bayern-munich-dortmund-champions-league

It would have been like Blackburn lending us a few bob back in '87 ...

But yes, ultimately as fans, owners and clubs we need to accept we are responsible for the whole of football, that ultimately our health is very closely aligned to the health of the total game, grass roots up. The reason, IMO, why the premier league has traditionally been so popular is because of the strength of the foundations below it in the football league. We ignore that at our peril - and that is what we are doing. That said we also need regulation that actually stops rogue owners overspending, saddling clubs with huge debts then bailing out. Of course it won't happen because as fans we are very self centred. We hate people "buying the league" until its our club the billionaire wants, then we don't care. And we don't care about any knock on it might have on the wider game. In the main only when it starts to unravel do we start to cry foul.

I guess it comes to this - do we care about our club only or do we care about our club and football as whole. I'm not sure what the answer to that is if I'm honest.

4 hours ago, JHRover said:

Nah he's a dingle, based in Blackburn. 

Never trust a dingle.

 

 

Don't go blaming us!

The whole ownership structure and regulation in this country needs an overhaul with something akin to the German model coming in.

Nice touch to throw in the real story of the FA rebrand.

17 hours ago, OnePhilT said:

Did Dyche field what you'd class as a weakened team last night?

The team was more than capable of winning, bearing in mind we have a game a few days later I thought his selection was ok to be honest.

17 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I'm not the sort of saddo that bothers about stuff like that. I've been around football long enough to know that runs like that come to an end eventually. So I don't set myself up for a fall. We'll win the Derby again one day, that's how football works. When we were bumping around the lower levels of the leagues many years ago I never dreamt we'd ever win at Old Trafford ever again - but we did. Twice.

I know, it’s just a bit of fun and if you got us in the cup this year you’d probably win!

3 hours ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

My wife's school has a claret uniform, and as head teacher she can change it, but refuses.  Should I leave her?

I would if the situation was reversed ?