Right - I'll go for the JJ72 new one - thanks, guys.

Even as I was putting the adverts in, I thought to myself "there's something missing here" - and you hit the nail on the head - Rattus Norvegicus just (and only just) edges out Black and White. Is there a better starting lyric to an album than that of Rattus? My only (feeble) excuse is that I was offering less widely recognised classics and I think the Stranglers, along with the Pistols (who made the best rock'n'roll album of all time IMO), were pretty widely recognised as having produced a couple of albums of permanent class. Just like Rovers - form is temporary, class is permanent. Apart from all that, we are the age our dads probably were when we were buying this stuff - could you imagine them comparing recent releases by new bands?? Are we sadly trying to cling on to what we once were or should we sink into middle age music or stand proud and keep our minds open? I know which I prefer!

Try the new Clash compilation. Quality. As for JJ72 liked the first album but never got round to buying the follow up. Now the bassist has left Thanks, Simon; however, to my lasting and permanent regret, I got the best of the Clash on vinyl (that's long-playing gramophones to you whippersnappers) usually within a week of it coming out - was never totally sure of the Clash myself though the occasional one was a peach. If you're into that kind of stuff, try any of the following five as they are unsung but absolute classics of that period: Siouxsie & The Banshees - The Scream The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material Adverts - Crossing the Red Sea With The Adverts Penetration - Moving Targets As for me, two opposing views on the second JJ72 - will wait for a third, and deciding opinion.

~~! JJ72 are fantastic. Got the first JJ72 cd - pretty damned good it is too. Is the second as good? Haven't heard Idlewild - any reference points to help me decide? I like this thread - could save me a few quid in crap cd's.

Currently in the CD player are: Primal Scream - Evil Heat Bowie - Heathen Ian Dury - 10 more turnips from the tip Iggy Pop - Lust for life Coldplay - A rush of blood Dexy's - searching for the young soul rebels I've got room for one more - any suggestions?