Who did the Finns vote for, I wonder? Paris perhaps?

Will the ISA sponsor the BBE drummer?

October 1974 vs. Crystal Palace - our 3rd Division title season - we won 2-1. Roger Jones, Stuart Metcalfe, the unique Mr. Beamish and Don Martin (I think) spring to mind from that cold, wet evening on the upper stand of the Riverside, together with the noise that could be created stamping your feet on the wooden floor. At the tender age of 10, this was key feature! Didn't bother with season tickets until the early 90's - never needed to until then as you could usually just turn up on the day. The stick I took from plastic dingles at the time has always prepared me well for the subsequent reversal of fortunes.

The "Da Vinci Code" is pretty compulsive reading - as if you haven't read it already!! I've just started "Homage to Catalonia" by Orwell - one of his I never got round to - and am enjoying that as well I'm also looking forward to Bobby Robson's book - if the Newcastle board fail to gag him, maybe we'll find out who really decided to buy some of the players he ended up with!!

Hope it does what you want - next time you get a chance, take a look at an Apple - superb OS, all the applications you need day-to-day thrown in as part of the deal, total interchangeability with MS Office, great performance and far more intuitive to use than Windows. Oh, and you don't "critical errors", hanging screens, missing dll files, umremitting spyware/adware and, to the best of my knowledge, there are very few viruses that cause you to have to reformat every so often. The problem? Limited software - instead of millions of applications, you only have hundreds of thousands to choose from!! After two years as a mac user, I would recommend it to anyone

I'm with American on this - get OS X, get Safari and your troubles are over - it's quick, has Google built-in and doesn't introduce the pop-ups and things that IE seems to pride itself on. I will give Firefox a try though as I hear lots of good things about it from different quarters - this MB being the latest.

Last three albums played: Searching for the young soul rebels - dexy's midnight runners - compulsory listening that should be on the national curriculum. A work of genius! Johnny Cash - Live at Folsom Prison - the man was one of a kind Kasabian - seriously in my groove at the moment Looking at the above, I'm starting to feel confused!!!

Graeme Souness - what a tosser!! Takes over at Rovers who are, at best, mid-table in Div.1 The place is swamped with overrated, overpaid prima donnas who think they are above the club and have no dedication or professionalism David Dunn is trying to get out because the management won't play him There is no discipline at the place and nobody knows who is in charge In fact, it's a bloody holiday camp with a free slush fund for as long as you can stay on the books So, Graeme Souness comes along and clears out the dead wood, gets David Dunn playing to his potential, sorts out the dressing room and gets us promoted in his first full season at Ewood. I can feel the hatred building up already!! First season back in the Prem. and he keeps us up, wins a trophy, then gets us back into Europe the following season by our league position rather than a cup win - God, I wish we still had Brian Kidd because GS has done nothing for BRFC. He has to sell Duff (the board couldn't say no) and David Dunn can't keep out of the pie shop or Accy's clubs and pubs and has forgotten what dedication got him to where he is, won't listen to his manager who's been there and done it - so he has to go. OK - he buys a donkey (Grabbi) and doesn't make good use of him and could have made better use of the Duff legacy (£17m). I do agree that he was starting to run out of ideas and his limitations were becoming increasingly obvious especially in the transfer market, his response to our poor form and it seemed his style had run it's course in the dressing room. So it seemed a natural parting of the ways was inevitable, so he walked before he was pushed like the rest of us would have done. What do we do?? That's right - forget "Thanks very much Graeme, good luck and you did a great job recovering BRFC's position in football" - no, instead we nominate him for people we hate the most in football!!!!!!! What short memories we have and how superficial we are is nothing short of astounding. UN-BLOODY-BELIEVABLE!!

The only result that affects my mood is the Rovers; however, I do look out for, probably in order: 1. Accy Stanley (the place I call home) 2. Blackpool (good lads - they hate Burnley as much as we do and I've travelled with them a few times) 3. England (it's a matter of duty and a phenomenal experience when we dominate away grounds by sheer presence) 4. Celtic (brought up that way) 5. Crewe Alex (how a football club should play and should be run - tribute to one and all involved)

Read it, and it is incredibly superficial and romanticised - a poor book by any standard

I find myself sharing a concern with one of our country cousins - I hope the squad are not as confident as we seem to be or we may seem too relaxed - this is the biggest threat to our winning fairly comfortably IMO.

Nice Cave is bloody brilliant, if you've not got any of his other stuff, i'd reccomend buying the back catalogue. Any particular recommendations as I'm a newcomer to Nick Cave, to be honest?

Today it has been: BloodSugarSexMagik - this one has aged well - as fresh now as it was then Also, Nick Cave's new double CD is very good

Wht do you have to bite? Because you enjoy it and because you know there is an element of truth in there, but perhaps not the interpetation you would like. I'm glad, as I'm sure you are, that the police are being so active - they have a lot of work to do. In the meantime, I hope you lose as I'm not sure I could bear the gloating on this and any other website you lot can access for the next God knows how many years were you to win.

I'm a bit puzzled (maybe as someone pointed out it's due to my lack of intelligence) but I've read through the last few pages of this thread and have not found anyone glorying in the antics of BRFC hooligans. What I have seen is discussion around a number of incidents involving those from Burnley within the last ten years. To those of you on this site from over the pennines, you have a problem with an element of your support - by no means all of your support but an unhealthy minority. Having been to t'Turf with other clubs going along with a few mates, I have firsthand experience of the reception these people afford anyone not from within 3 miles of Burnley. Women and children from West Brom stands out in my mind together with the shower of bottles whilst attending with Blackpool and the "welcome to Burnley" gesture given an unfortunate and entirely innocent Blackpool fan by some knuckle draggers with a couple of Stanley blades set into a block of balsa wood to make stitching impossible after the "treatment" has been meted out. There is also a regular element of "Burnley/BNP" at England away games, by no means the only club but regularly there. This is a shame as I've met some of you at these occasions (England/France in Lisbon being the last) and we've managed to have a bit of a laugh about how ###### we think our respective teams are and then get on with supporting England - shame, you're not all like that. There is a very high proportion of banning orders for the (very) average attendance of BFC. Now, I'm not for a minute suggesting this is indicative of all Burnley fans; however, you cannot deny there is a disproportionately large section that has allowed the rest of you to be similarly tarred. Just check any of the away travel websites around and you will see the difference: BRFC - the natives are friendly and it is safe to go for a drink BFC - don't wear colours, don't drink in town, leave your car safely from the ground The message to me is that football in general has moved on from the behaviour we witnessed 20-25 years ago - it has been slow to do likewise in Burnley. You boys have a problem - recognise it, deal with it and join the rest and we can all go back to the usual tirades of abuse about how you eat bananas, what county you are in and the state of your town - have they started spending the millions injected since you all set fire to the place yet? Where??

There's no doubt in my mind that Garner had the skill, predatory instinct, temperament, technique and vision to succeed at the highest level - how many of us can remember his ability to spin on a penny, turn defenders inside out and shoot hard and accurate with minimal uplift using either foot? What he didn't have was, perhaps: The necessary desire? He stayed at BRFC when he could have moved on The right "training regime" - we all liked it, but would Messrs Clough, Dalglish, Ferguson etc.? The confidence in his own ability? He was a major factor in our 1980's "nearly men" period - if others had been as goos as him, it would have made all the difference. I think we do him a disservice by talking his achievements down due to their not being in the top flight - they were largely in the second division (the proper one, not the current 4th division that has stolen the name to try appear more credible) but there were teams in that division who went up and stopped up with considerable ease at that time - and he drubbed them as much as any others - Man City, Chelsea for example. The second division was much more competitive at the time. You can only score against what's in front of you. BTW - I've voted for him, despite an overwhelming desire to have David Speedie in the team for his one-season wonder performance. Any chance we could get him in as sub?

Bryan - I work over that way - just drive down Accrington Road and through up to Colne Road on the other side and tell me where the desperation stops. There's nothing worse than a club with ideas above it's station, living on past status and a fanbase that clearly has a very shallow gene pool from which to draw. I can only assume, hopefully incorrectly, that their lives are so meaningless that they have nothing to think about other than inflicting violence on anyone who has the nerve to visit their rundown little shanty town. Don't take my word for it, ask West Brom ,Carlisle, Blackpool and countless others about the fine sporting tradition and appreciative nature of the most xenophobic and cruel fans I have had the pleasure of meeting - even women and children are fair game to these big fellas. Their mothers must be so proud!!

As with most things, it is a metter of interpretation and relativity: Burnley have a hell of a player = he's at best a mediocre journeyman by our standards Burnley are going to give us hell = the KFC and a dodgy boozer will board their windows up in case some local worthy can't get his toes around a particularly ripe banana after the match. East of Junction 9 will be hell = hey, guys, smell the coffee - it already is for just about everybody. Oh, and by the way, the rest of the country tired of such antics about 20 years ago - Istanbul?? More like Cock & Bull.

Not sure we'll ever get above 25,000 on a sustained basis - the town isn't big enough, is too close to other clubs with partisan support and the BRFC brand does not command the following of the usual suspects. JW and the board have probably recognised this and are trying to manage the club's finances on that basis. It doesn't mean we have crap support, any more than Burnley, Preston or Bolton - all of whom will never get much more than 25,000 regardless of what league they are in, despite the protestations of some of the more primitive examples of the species.

You may well be right - what is it someone said about the thin line between genius and insanity? As for the Beach Boys, I'm prepared to compromise my previous position and recognise that "Pet Sounds" is top notch stuff.

Just listened to "Smile" by Brian Wilson - a towering achievement as good as the hype suggests. As someone for whom the Beach Boys never did anything, I find myself puzzled by how good this album is and how it it defied all my prejudices based on Wilson's former band. If you buy nothing else but this you will have done well.

He's right!!! A 6-pointer if ever there was one, but we'll do it by 2 clear goals

Au contraire, it is possibly the easiest pick of the lot. I cannot understand the difficulty here - we are very lucky to have had many great forwards at Ewood over the years as witnessed by the posts above; however, I struggle to see how there can be any choice but: 1. Possibly the greatest centre forward in English, never mind BRFC, football history - certainly post-war to keep comparisons reasonably sane 2. The all-time leading goalscorer for the club and a career of unswerving loyalty to the cause There are many other worthy players, but in such company, they are only ever just that - worthy. If we are encouraging debate, then fine - debate away - but are we seriously suggesting any other combination than Garner & Shearer? I'll disappear now until the tirade of abuse subsides

The second easiest vote of the 11 in my mind, after I read all the worthy testimonials on the first striker and made my mind up (well there was no option who to vote for on the first striker, was there?) - bring it on, THERE'S ONLY ONE SIMON GARNER (the number of times I've nearly torn my throat roaring that, when we had little else to roar about). He was there when we ................................ achieved sod all, actually. BUT, he was there and I would buy him a pint anytime and thank him for so many fantastic memories around an otherwise largely bleak landscape that he would probably get a bit embarrassed.