Because Of The Times....a great piece of music. Yet to hear a bad KOL track.

The second song on their new album may be the worst song I've ever heard. The rest of it's decent though.

£1.5 million for Dunn is without doubt Hughes's worst signing pound for pound. Fat boy would have been free next month - had he really wanted to move to Rovers for football reasons he could have signed a pre-contract in January and got himself into shape to be able to tackle a Hughes pre-season.

As it is he's used the Bolton situation to force Rovers to pay good money for him, signed a contract on his terms, and now he's living where he wants to live, drinking where he wants to drink, and there is no chance he will ever be match fit or match capable at the top level ever again.

I strongly suspect Hughes didn't really want this signing - he doesn't risk money on lazy idiots. It looks like a publicity stunt which has gone badly wrong - today it cost us points as well as money.

I was waiting to see who'd be the first to make Dunn our latest scapegoat after his mis-placed pass today - should have guessed really. Your increasingly hysterical posts on Dunn clearly show you lost all perspective on this some time ago and are now hoping and praying he'll fail so you can stick the boot in.

The fact is we won't know whether Dunn was a good signing or not until well into next season. He's been indifferent so far, although he's had some decent games - Bolton away he was our man of the match I thought - and I suspect he'll only get back to peak fitness after he's had a full pre-season behind him. However, even now when he's nowhere near his best he's still a useful squad player to have.

Remember that although he cost us points yesterday, he's also provided assists for a few goals this season which have won us points. However, that doesn't fit into Tris's bizarre agenda does it.

Just finished watching the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film. I really, really enjoyed it. Forget the rubbish films previously, this one follows the old cartoons superbly with updated animation but still in a style you recognise. Shame the old theme tune was not there!

You need help.

How are Rovers supposed to get maximum value for their successful players if they allow such ridiculously low release clauses? For a £2.5million fee we should be looking at £10million release clause not just a few million more.

Hope it isn't true.

Perhaps a better question would be to ask how Rovers are supposed to buy successful players in the first place without putting a release clause in their contract?

Perhaps the likes of Bellamy and McCarthy wouldn't have signed for us without one.

I hope it's not true as well, but can understand if it is.

My first choice England team, when everyone is fit, would be:

Robinson

Neville Terry Ferdinand Cole

Lennon Hargreaves Gerrard Cole

Rooney Owen

At the moment though, because of injuries to the likes of Joe Cole and Owen, England have 3 main problems.

- They do not have a striker available who is intelligent and sharp enough to play with Rooney.

- They don't have anyone good enough to play wide-left.

- They are imbalanced in central midfield.

So, the first thing I'd do is change the formation. We don't have the players available to play 4-4-2 at the moment so I'd switch to 4-3-3. I'd go for:

Robinson

Richards Terry Ferdinand Cole

Gerrard Hargreaves Lampard

Rooney Lennon

Davies

First of all, we need a target man for the forwards to play off. The only one's I can think of who are currently fit are Davies and Crouch. Ashton would be an option when he's fit as well. Rooney and Lennon would then be able to play a free role behind the target man and do what they are best at - run at defenders.

Hargreaves could play the holding role in midfield allowing both Lampard and Gerrard to break forward and do what they are best at. Both full backs would provide the width (my first choice at right-back would still be Neville but Richards will do as a replacement).

It's basically the same way that Chelsea play. Unfortunately though, England's players aren't as good as Chelsea's!

Aussie breciano is looking to move to the premier league. Where does everyone reckon he will end up if he comes?

Working in a bar?

Places in Manchester that show live music:

Manchester Academy

Apollo

MEN Arena

Night and Day Cafe

The Lowry

Ritz Nightclub

Roadhouse

Night clubs that have indie nights:

5th Avenue

Late Room (Friday night I think - also has the odd gig on)

There's others as well but I can't be arsed looking them up. A quick Google should find them easy enough. Give us a shout if you want to know anything specific.

This thread makes for interesting reading.

Bellamy's biggest flaw is that as soon as Liverpool came in with a better offer, he was off on his travels again.

Just like he was to Newcastle from Coventry (even Cov from Norwich) and when he'd wrecked that lot, to Celtic. Add in the night clubs and golf clubs, and suddenly his talent - or rather his pace - seems less important.

Hughes was canny enough to set Rovers up to play to Bellamy's strengths last season. Liverpool have too many good players to do that, and Bellamy has been left exposed.

Meanwhile Rovers now play a much better all round game, with much better all round prospects. We can now lose key players and not worry about the consequences. Last season, when Bellamy was out Rovers were a different team. Our squad is now far more balanced.

Wherever he goes, Bellamy has to be the key player, and the biggest idiot. We are well rid.

Just ######. Bellamy is far better than McCarthy and would be welcomed back with open arms by most Rovers fans - Mark Hughes included.

Just got the new Arcade Fire album. I was worried it wouldn't live up to the first one but it's a fantastic album. Not as immediate as Funeral but it's a grower. Going to see them at the Apollo tomorrow - can't wait.

Wow. That might be the first post you've made in months Rev that I completely agree with.

I remember going to the first league game of the season with a mate, away at Derby, to see Grabbi's league debut. We both couldn't believe Souness had paid £7m for Grabbi. He was useless and got progressively worse.

If there's ever been a dodgy transfer in the history of the game that was it.

He's not good enough. No idea why we've signed him on again, unless he's doing a bit of coaching on the side.

So how long will he last? 7 mins...

Seriously, I just he hope we can see Dunny back to his best.

Do you really?

I agree with both Tris and Thenodrog. I'm clearly still pi55ed from the weekend.

Who's the one getting personal?

You simply can't accept that anyone could possibly have a different opinion than you on a player.

God, if I replied every time someone on here says something I don't agree with I'd never do anything else. Everyone's entitled to their opinions on a player, I couldn't care less whether it agrees with mine or not.

What does annoy me though is when people make judgements on player's based on their own prejudicies, rather than what they do on the field. And it's even more annoying when they repeat those judgements on virtually every post they make.

It's absolutely true, hindsight and his recent performances on the pitch have shown you've been wrong in your unstinting support of Neill but you won't admit that's the case.

Ok, if we're getting personal, let's have a history lesson.

For years now you've slagged Neill off, whether he's played well or not. This all stems from your irrational support of Curtis and the fact that Neill, quite rightly, took his place in the team. Just like you have other favourites who, come what may, you continue to support e.g. Gray, anyone under the age of 23, etc. Frankly, I learned to stop trusting your judgement on players a long time ago.

Personally, I prefer to judge the players on what they do on the pitch. Neill started off the season poorly, then went on a run of games where he was excellent, and has been no worse than average for the last month or two. He's made the odd mistake that have led to goals, but he's also created, and scored, some goals too. Overall he's worthy of his place in the team and all the recent speculation over his future doesn't seem to have affected his performance, or committment to the team, at all.

You're simply making it up.

And rightly so. He's been poor enough over the last couple of months as it is as his attention has wandered. It would be a disaster playing him for the remainder of the season imo.

Simply untrue, and just because you keep repeating it isn't going to make it anymore true either.

There's no point comparing Derbyshire's development against other players as everyone's different. Some players are early developers (e.g. Rooney), some aren't. It's looks to me like Derbyshire still has some filling out to do before anyone can claim he's fully developed.

That said, I'm still not sure he's going to make it. He's enthusiastic, reasonably quick, and has a decent touch. He's also got a knack of getting into good positions and finding space in the box. However, I'm not sure he makes the most intelligent runs ever and, so far, his finishing has been suspect. He's not going to trouble too many centre-halves physically either, even when he's filled out.

If his finishing was better you could say he was a goalscorer, someone who'll get into good positions and finish things off providing he gets the service. However, to become a player like that in the Premiership he needs to do better than he's done so far.

For me, at the moment, he's a useful player to have on the bench. His pace and enthusiasm can have an impact when the game is stretched in the last half hour, but he's not good enough yet imo to start matches.

One could also argue that he's unlikely to tell the whole truth to someone who then goes and posts it on a public forum.

At the risk of agreeing with SAR I think he's spot on here. Neill's probably realised that Brownie's a gobshite and will post everything he says so has offered him a bit of sugar. It's probably also worth noting that Brownie hasn't exactly got a perfect record of posting the "truth" on here.

However, perhaps I've been unfair and maybe Brownie did accurately report what Lucas said. I find it hard to believe that Neill hasn't been offered a better deal. I find it very easy to believe that Rovers don't want to negotiate with his agent. Perhaps if Neill changed agents he'd do better. Either way, it wouldn't surprise me at all if we kept Neill until the summer - which is what I think we should do anyway.

Mokoena did well yesterday and helped to protect our early lead as much as anyone. Derbyshire played ok, scored a good poacher's goal, but would still be behind our more senior strikers in the pecking order if it was up to me. He's promising though.

Exactly right, was right at the front of The Riverside today, so got a really close look at him in the first half.

Body language was appalling, clearly didn't want to be on the pitch, and let's just say he did the minimum consistent without actually throwing the game whilst not wanting to do anything to harm his new team either.

The difference in commitment between him and Emerton, who was on the same side in the second half, couldn't have been more noticeable.

Just rubbish and completely in your mind. He may have misplaced a few passes but his overall game was fine and he looked just as committed as anyone out there.

He was crap today mate. Not the best game to pull out a shot at the fans who dislike him.

He was far from crap today.

City will go down - mark my words.

46 league starts in 3 years is abysmal and he looked fatter than ever sitting down next to Santa on the TV yesterday - he even made a joke about it.

He didn't look fat at all, in fact I thought he looked quite trim.

Time will tell but I'd be delighted to have him back.

The "Scotty Match report" is not what it once was.