I have just seen on the front of the Independant that the Government plans to treble the number of flights ni the UK by 2030. At least our green tax will be saving the world.

Mine was posted yesterday at 7.22am and arrived mid afternoon yesterday. Madness

From first impressions I like it

You don't get any problems like that on Xbox Live (Sorry, Im still bitter about not having it yet, Im expecting it tomorrow morning).

Trust me, I don't think its "cool" to slag off FIFA.

I just don't like it. I played the demo and did not like it.

All style and no substance

Yeah I was talking about the 360 version. £2 cheaper in the shops

Well how did you not turn out a hooligan?

Are you advocating National Service for all? or just for criminals? or just for boys?

How would you approach it?

I think he should be more concerned that he likes FIFA over PES

I never order things off the Internet, decided to do so with this. Yet my copy from play has not even been despatched yet, and they are selling it for £37.95 in HMV in Leeds today.

Gutted

Football Manager is the Pro Evolution of management games

Championship manager is the FIFA.

Make of that what you will

My best advice would be to download the demo's though. Football Manager definately has one, im sure Championship manager has one also.

I believe Man Utd V Crewe is on Sky

Why, I just don't know

I think we will win on penalties.

It's a funny old game

Did you have to do National Service phil?

They don't expect the customer to do anything. You can do what you like.

The game is perfectly playable without any patches.

Im loving it at the moment.

And also ihb if you are using a packet of crisps analogy I would say to you, your reaction, when you buy a packet of crisps and it says on the packet something along the lines of "Great New Recipe" or "New Flavour". You should be asking why they have been selling a poorer quality flavour previously.

Why did they ever release the first pack, if in the future they could develop better flavours.

You'd have thought that a major games developer (after many years of the same problems) would have increased the priority placed on testing and evaluating the games???

I feel sorry for the customers out there who have a very limited knowledge of computers, or indeed those with no access to the internet. You wouldn't buy a packet of salt and vinegar crisps if you knew that you would have to wait a month for the salt to arrive.

A company tries to recreate the entire football management experience with all the players and staff in the world (almost), and people complain when it needs to be updated to fix minor glitches.

Do you know how complicated and complex that game is, everytime it loads up it's different?

It could be tested for years and you would not find all the bugs. Only a release can do this. And I still bet there are bugs in the game that will never be found by anybody.

Some people are never happy.

They allow you to sign players who have no work permit, because feeder clubs in Europe can be used to get them experience and hopefully, in the end, a work permit

how embarrassing

dear god

I imagine we are one the only clubs that will turn a serious incident of racism towards one of our players into a ethical debate about whether he should have been offended or not.

The players and staff at our club have been working hard and spending money on "kicking racism of out football", and some people try to pass it off as a nothing incident.

Pathetic

Stingy git. It was a whole year ago that that one was released. The new one is much better anyway.

And no they don't release a patch (they want you to buy the new one)

I picked mine up from game today

I find this quite odd.

Everybody needs a scapegoat I suppose.

The last time he was in the championship, two years ago, he was Ipswich's player of the season and top scorer.

Hardly a poor show

The developers (Sports Interactive) of football manager made the championship manager series until season 03/04, after that they split with publisher Eidos who took the championship manager brand with them.

Since then football manager was born by the previous creators of championship manager.

The developers obviously knew more than the publisher.

This may be a long shot, and you might argue he is more of a winger/striker, but I think Ronaldinho playing as a creative attacking midfielder behind the two strikers might be just what we need.

What do you think?

It wasn't a 3 it was a 5.

Neville, Carragher, Ferdinand, Terry and Cole.

Talk about negative.

And score, and take free kicks, and corners, and do amazing cross field balls.

But hey, I suppose we are moving forwards and not back (P.Neville)

I agree, he provided or scored most of our goals in the WC. He did nothing wrong other than Sven picking him when he could have been dropped (maybe)

I said we would regret sacking Sven, when his only mistake was to lose to Big Phil.

We might not qualify for this tournament.

Was Sven's first qualifcation away game 5-1 to Germany?

How things change