I'm desperate. Can anyone see any positives at all about TM staying as manager for at least another 18 months? 

Has he gone yet? 

13 minutes ago, johnradfordsubbuteo said:

I'm sat just staring at the red screen saying coverage has concluded.

oh bugger they've just cut the sound which consisted of some interesting trundling noises. The men in the white coats maybe with a gurney for ToMo?

Tony looked like someone's mad uncle out there tonight. Standing sodden in his trackie-bums, gibbering furiously to himself. 

45 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

A lot of good candidates snapped up

I would still go for Roy Keane. Big name manager, big name club. He would take it I'd say. We would get support from Man u fans, Irish fans. We would be on Sky , a lot. He would attract players and hopefully get more out of those here, who would want to play for him and , in his own words, win football matches! 

It would be exciting. His press conferences would certainly be more interesting that Mowbrays. 

I just have such a strong feeling our next appointment is going to be disappointing. 

I don't like Keane a bit but I'd take him in a heartbeat. An appointment like that would genuinely be cause for excitement, something there has been precious little of in recent times

21 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Season ticket!

Oh. I'm terribly sorry for your loss.

Dan, can you clarify what you said about 'go up or bust' please? I'm not as clued up on the financials as I should be.

17 minutes ago, Dan said:

Sorry, I’m no expert 🙂 Whatever it is though, it isn’t good. They aren’t switched on, attentive or reactive enough to set us up to win promotion. 

I’ve never understood why they pump all that money in and then don’t seem to care.  How hard would it be to get someone with some football knowledge advising them? 

This season was win or bust. We’re not going up now(they’ve waited far too long to change the manager, it was still possible up to recently), so I believe they will be calling it a day. After they’ve recouped/mitigated as much as they can of course. 

Won’t be long until they’ve flushed their precious baby down the toilet.  

10 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Dreading it.

I have this vision of my youngest shaking his head, sighing "How can we be this shit?"

Will you be shelling out for the privilege on IFollow, Len?

Just now, JHRover said:

I simply refuse to believe or accept Mowbray's suggestion that the training ground stunt is above his pay grade and inference that he's had nothing to do with it. 

This is a guy who has been undisputed 'boss' of the club now for 4 years. Survived longer than anyone else has under Venkys, is the man who goes off to India and has the power to influence his budget, recommend investment in players and training ground changes, appoints or recommends his mate from Coventry as Chief Executive. He has the club basically eating out of his hands and the owners like him.

Yet I'm supposed to believe that he's not been even consulted on this and it has happened behind his back.

Sorry Tony, I'm not buying it. He'll know this is a very sensitive subject that has the potential to spill over into something much more messy with the fans. He's distancing himself from the project and instead pointing people in the direction of invisible and silent 'superiors' who will never be identified nor questioned on it.

The only good news is that he accepts it will take many years to deliver. Hopefully by then him and his mates will be a distant memory and we can forget all about this scheme. 

Yes to be honest I got an immediate whiff of BS about it. It's in keeping with all the humble Boro boy stuff,right down to the faux modesty of "oh that's above my pay grade". 

Says the guy who appointed the CEO! 

55 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Unfortunately, I think this is closer to the truth than people like to admit.

Venky's will leave one day and what other outcome is there ? Unless we get promoted of course!!!

When they leave they can either forgo collecting the debts and sell at a reaonalbe price or they can try to recoup as much as possible which will mean administration. Is the proposed sale of Brockhall the beginning of the end ?

The day of reckoning will come at some point.

Will they ever leave though? If they are as rich as everyone says they are, is it conceivable - though utterly bonkers - that they could just keep covering the losses for decades to come? 

14 minutes ago, toogs said:

That answer says it all. 

The petulance of his response gives me hope. 

51 minutes ago, JHRover said:

If you go back and read Mowbray's comments when Venus joined Coventry as Technical Director it is interesting and baffling. 

I certainly don't think there was such freedom or scope when they were working at Celtic, or indeed at Peace's West Brom or Gibson's Middlesbrough. Yet the trio seem to have had immense power at absent ownership regimes at both Coventry and now Blackburn.

Keep on joining dots.

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

Again.

1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Pretty easily these days. You will pay €12 for the "pleasure" though

https://www.rovers.co.uk/my-account/ 

Thanks for that. I had thought the video-feed was only available to season ticket holders.

It's a form of masochism stumping up for Tony's dross, but I am drawn nonetheless, moth to a flame.

7 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Ignoring the Dingle trolls and that utter fool Beetlejuice, I’m pretty pleased (and relieved) with a lot of the responses to the Jury article.

There's definitely plenty of fans with their eyes wide open...

There's a guy who calls himself John Claret - amongst many, many other aliases - who posts about twenty times a day on Rovers articles and has been doing so for at least the past decade. Real psychiatric-inmate territory.

I'm in Ireland. Does anyone know how I can shell out for the pleasure of watching this? Thanks

Just now, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

If only the clowns would listen to people who know what they're doing, not the vultures they have over the last decade, then they'd understand they would make more in one season in the Prem than selling off Brockhall and that Mowbray ain't going to get us there. 

Are they really still 'misguided' though or they wilfully visiting this upon us? Of course, if they were, it would beg the question: Why the hell are they injecting money into the club?

17 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

‘LT Fans Jury’ weekly article -

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19110094.communication-cost-fans-verdict-rovers-brockhall-plans/

Still a fair bit of denial going on, but at least there’s some reticence.

I would wager said Jury is probably a more realistic snapshot of where the fanbase is. Not up in arms like brfcs (yet), but certainly not the uber-positive cretins you see on FB groups.

 

Now that's a refreshing choice of word! Sometimes one has to call a spade a spade, and a tool a tool.

Some terrific posts on here today. Bleak as things are currently, it does makes things feel that bit better to know there are people who still vividly remember what it felt like to be a superbly-run, professional outfit, and the high standards set by Jack Walker and, latterly, people like John Williams, Tom Finn, Graeme Souness and Mark Hughes.

As some posters have mentioned - apart from the lack-of-brain-cells issue - the reaction of many 'supporters' to the cynical PR-job by the club makes me think that, all things considered, they just aren't that bothered about the club.

2 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Waggot's bedroom i mean bed

"Darling... could you poke at your ear, like Tony does?"

Where's the Mowbray flag at these days? To me, that rang serious alarm bells.

1 minute ago, Mercer said:

So depressed tonight.

Won a bundle on Forest win but no solace.

Think we are in a real mess.  Other than insolvency, I don't know where the feck we are heading.

Do you genuinely think they are doing this with a view to washing their hands of the club once/ if they sell Brockhall?

For the love of God man, GO, and take Big Steve and Mark Venus with you

Ever since Venky's rocked up and the protesters were sneered at, it's become patently obvious that vast swathes of Rovers fans are incurably thick. That's not an exaggeration by the way. We have so many supine, bovine 'supporters' whose mentality is, in a sourly ironic sense, exactly the opposite of what Jack Walker always espoused in terms of thinking big. It's sickening.

Brockhall has always been one of the major assets in terms of attracting quality management and players, and has, through the years, been talked up much more than Ewood Park itself in terms of the excellence of its facilities. While everyone knows that Venky's ownership is always a major cloud over the club, there has at least been some hope in recent years that - with Ewood and Brockhall and our rich history, known all over the world - we might just 'stumble across' a good manager who could get us back to the Premier League.

Cutting Brockhall out of the equation will also serve to diminish our appeal even further.

"TRUST ME"

The whole thing is just as much a mystery as it was in 2010. Why are they still here? What's the point?