Just now, FGS5635 said:

Tin hat time

It is a really strange stat though when you think about it

? I am currently sitting in my nuclear bunker as I type... 

is strange how it can be so extreme home and away...

Playing devils advocate a little, but didn’t we have the 5th best defence in the league at home. Better than Norwich and Villa? 

Granted away it was very poor and needs addressing but is it really as bad as some are making out? 

Owen Coyle, after rovers v Bolton.....

''Steve Kean is a terrific coach and manager. All you want is an opportunity. We have the best league in the world, but we don't have the 20 best managers in the world, someone has to fill the dreaded places where no-one wants to be.''

So we are now beyond the dreaded places on one wants to be......well he has a point, no one wants to be here unless you cozy up to a certain agency.....

I switched to a road bike from a hybrid and initially got a good number Of punctures due to the tyres. I avoid any hole in the rd now and if I can't move try and lift my front wheel over. Not had a puncture of ages and done a lot of miles.....saying that hope it lasts, off to John O'Groats tonight for a small cycle south......

Audax, looking at 14 days with 12 days cycling for lands end. It's going to be a tough couple of weeks but should be 'fun' in the main....

Agree, a lot of bike shops now have a points system and you get some many points depending what bike you get and cost. You can then exchanmge points for helmet, shoes, clothes etc. SO if they don;t have that system it is well worh asking.

Oh if anyone wants a bit of challenge on the bike, I'm doing Lands End to John O'Groats in September if you want to join me

Paul gives good advice, especially with the shorts. I followed a lot of his advice a few years back around shorts and got some assos, not cheap but still going strong.

Took me a while to get back on hills with a compact after a triple but I'm a much stronger cyclist because of it.

Clipless shoes are a must if you are doing any distance or hills, they make such a difference!

But saying all this the only thing which will make you a good rider is to get on the bike!!!

Also 100% agree with horse riders, annoys me when cyclists complain about cars then don't listen to their own advice when it comes to horses and walkers....

I switched to a road from a hybrid last year. Again kept the hybrid for touring. Got a bianco from ribble, with a compact. As I'm used to the triple the compact is at the lower end making it close to the bottom ring of the compact but gear change is so much smoother.

I went to ewood cycles for my hybrid, they would not let me test it which is strange as most good bike shops will no problem. Decent service but it put me off going back this time.....

So sad, agree that it shows what football is really about. Just a shame it takes something likes this to cut through the money and selfishness which football is now viewed. Hope whatever demons gary had, he is now free from....as for depression, quite often it's when your on your own you get dragged down, when people are around the depression is pushed to one side to a point. I guess that could explain him on football focus. But whatever pushed him to it is not my business, I'll just remember the great footballer, manager and nice bloke in football....

Agree with you both. Also with Benni, how often does he come out wide to influence play and quite honestly is out best crosser of the ball by a long long way.

Not having a go at Sam, but shouldn't it be the managers job to fit players like Benni in. Isn't that why Man U have Hargreaves and Fletcher in the team to allow the more creative players to play more?

I'm not sure Benni is the answer to our problems, he certainly isn't in the current formation.

though I suspect he may be sulking.

I'd disagree Paul, Benni is far and away our most skillful player with more ability than most of our squad put together.

What makes me smile is that Andrews and Roberts get so much grief for not being good enough yet they give 100% yet Benni who is good enough by quite a long way gets greif for not trying. SO lets sign a player who combines the two. Wayne Rooney perhaps?!?!? (Thats not aimed at you by the way Paul, I appreciate thats not your point.)

On the second point, the games I've seen Benni play he has show no sign of sulking, especially in the cup game when he let Kalinic score his first goal in English football. Which shows great team ethic and great sportsman ship. IMO.

Simple answer. Males between the ages of 14 and 65 not allowed. That would make the game a whole lot safer.

Jan for PM

As soon as I saw the fixture I thought it would kick off. Didn;t expect that though!!!

West Ham and Millwall are nutcases, but the problem is that life bans doesn't really bother a lot of them. I remember the game against the Dingles how many lads from the 80's turned up for that game who had not been to watch Rovers for years. That for me is the problem, you can have years of good nature at a football ground but one game like this drags out the idiots.

Again, hopefully it does not happen at the burnley games or at least any trouble stays well away from the ground, normal supporters and the media.

On his day Benni is one of the best strikers in the league, but sadly for him and us, he can't produce his top form week in, week out and when he is off form, he does not offer the team anything.

To be fair to Benni the service to him last season was shocking, so it wasn;t all his fault!!!

Went to see the fantastic Carter USM at Brixton on Saturday. As ever they were superb

What a band, yet painfully underrated.

EMF supported who were good as well, but looked like they had been frozen in 1992 and defrosted just for the gig.

Just a shame I ruined the weekend by going to WHL on Sunday

Going Down, Going Down, Going Down,,,,,,,,,,,,,, What you think Therno etc:D

Only joking by the way, expecting a good season

Cheers Gull

Off to see James next Tuesday in Blackpool and can;t wait, new album sounds good and mixed with the classics should make for a great evening

I think JimBob and Fruity and both doing solo stuff whilst having the Carter gigs. Missed the gigs last year, but from what i heard they were as good as ever.

Saw them in '95 st Preston Uni for the worry bomb tour. Still one of the best gigs I've ever been to...........

Just got tickets for Carter USM with support from EMF at Brixton in November.

Can;t wait

Don't mind Hughes too much because he admitted wrong and went back after the panic and even though it was wrong to run away and an act of cowardness he went back and handed himself in so its not asif he ran away and got found by the police is it?

Its unforgiving taking someones life away but hes paid the price as hes done his time and weather or not you think it should be longer dosent matter becuase he served the time what the judge said and don't you think Hughes is remided every day that hes killed someone? Thats like mental tortue, he lost his own family that day because his wife divorced him in prison and left with his kid.

ASEF are you close to your brother? because if you are you will no doubt know that you depend on them sometimes, need there help and have a love for them so you support them whatever they are going through weather its prison or cancer, and Cahill was showing his support for his brother and il be dammed to be told weather this is wrong because i dont think it is.

Sean Cahill commited an vicous attack and hes probably sorry now but hes no better or worse than you or i, hes a human at the end of the day and we all make mistakes weather its cutting your finger with a knife or taking someones life you make mistakes and more often than not your punished for them.

But tell me if Sean Cahill was the guy getting attacked and Tim Cahill celebrated by pointing to the sky etc and praying to god would you say awwwww Cahill thats a well nice gesture? You probably would.

So whats the difference between what he actually did and that, because imo the is nothing hed be showing support for his brother.

whether its prison or cancer.......................I don't think I'd support anyone through prison the same way through cancer. Ridiculous comparison

I am Kloot on tour in the UK April and May.............happy days

Dismissing Aimee's claims of sex, she added: "That's rubbish. I know that for a fact. I know Ashley intimately. When he's under the influence he isn't capable."

Love this quote from Cheryl. Ha ha poor Ashley

What a prize idiot

I'd never heard of them until i saw your mention, checked them out and they are rather brilliant, thanks.

Glad you like them grizfoot.

The new album is class and gets better with each listen. It's out early next year.

Saw Manchesters best kept secret I am Kloot in Manchester last night. Great gig where they played a good mix of old and new songs.

Got the new album and there are some soon to be Kloot classics on it. How this band are not 100 times bigger i'll never know

Drove up to Glagow to see a two-off 10-year-since-we-split re-union of Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine at the Barrowlands.

BEST GIG EVER !

Admittedly, a 30-somthing (age, not the album) mosh pit felt kinda odd, but it was awesome all the same. The worrying thing was it took four days for my ears to stop ringing !

Oh fantastic...........

I so wanted to go to one of the gigs but London sold out straight away and I couldn't get to the Barrowlands gigs. Brilliant Live band, one of the best i've seen.

Hope they decide to do some more gigs in the North West..........................