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OJRovers

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  1. What concerns me about the transfer policy of 'buying young players that are going to be great in 2 years' is that what players are going to be attracted to this?

    Someone smashing it in League One or abroad is not going to be jumping at the chance to play for our U23s for 2 years. 

    That has maybe shown in not being able to sign anyone.

    They only have to look at Chapman, Brereton, Davenport, Rothwell etc to realise it won't do their career any favours.

     

  2. 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

    Ok, thanks. So maybe the V’s £5m contribution each year brings those operating losses from say £12m down to £7m and so over the two seasons (18/19 & 19/20) we have lost £14m plus the £12m net that @J*B referred to which would put us on £26m over two years and bang on track.

    So theoretically, with a third of our earners out of contract in the summer and should the likes of JRC, Buckley, Thompson etc break through then we should have a healthy-ish budget to trade in the operating losses plus some money (£6m) to spend on fees? As long as V’s are willing to pump in another £5m...

    The annual losses need to be adjusted to add back the academy costs (£3m?) and there will be £3m profit on Raya. So we're not exactly on the brink of Ffp like the club would have everyone believe.

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  3. So we wasted the whole window after a 19 year old kid from Chelsea on the verge of a big money Premiership move and a guy from Newcastle on £30k a week.

    There’s a summary of championship signings on the sky sports page, Christ even Luton and Barnsley look to have brought in some interesting players. Let alone all the top 10 who have signed a lot of potentially very good signings.

     

     

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  4. Just now, bluebruce said:

    We aren't playing cute around FFP though, that's the whole problem. Everyone else is, and we are just taking it on the chin. Hell it doesn't even kick in for us until summer 2021 - proper recruitment and we could be promoted by then!!

    I mean, in the however many years FFP has been running now, how many clubs have been punished by it? Some teams who gambled on the promotion successfully and received paltry fines. Birmingham with their points deduction that didn't tangibly harm them (and now they're spending again). Then that time that I think three of us (us, Forest and someone else) got embargoes but were still able to sign freebies and under certain conditions. An embargo doesn't even massively matter if you just spend the money wisely beforehand.

    We are one of a very small clutch of clubs who haven't succeeded in playing cute around FFP. We must be the only club who harp on about it to the extent we do.

    On your last point, why wait til summer to need to get 6 new players PLUS the ones we already need? We can't sign one player in a whole window, I hardly fancy our chances in the summer of signing the 9 that even permanently positive people like Chaddy think we need.

    We’re not even trying to avoid FFP. It suits everyone at Ewood as an excuse for lack of progress.

    We’re the only team in the league not to make a single signing.
     

  5. 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

    Not out of our league as loan signing. Brighton only bid for him today

     

    Yesterday Mowbray said he's only looking to sign players as backup, not to go into our first XI.

    He needs his head checking if he thinks he's going to be able to attract a lad from Chelsea who was obviously attracting big money interest from other Premier League clubs to come and sit on our bench.

     

  6. 7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

    I think most of us can see that at times and in parts we have a good squad. This is one of the reasons for frustration. This time last year we were well placed and confidence was high. We did nothing in January and our season unravelled.

    It seems no lessons have been learned from that with virtually the exact same lack of activity and soundbites coming from the club. I wouldn't bet against a similar collapse when the inevitable injuries to our threadbare squad come during the next 4 months.

     

    Spot on.

    The league is poor this year. We’ve a chance to make the playoffs. A few new faces to freshen up the squad would go a long way. If you’re going to throw £15m a year at the club it makes no sense not to gamble and sign a couple of loans. LB and RW being the priority.

    No lessons learnt from last year whatsoever.

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  7. 10 hours ago, JHRover said:

    We had a minimal budget in the summer. It was pretty much loans and frees - Tosin, Downing, Johnson, Walton, Cunningham  - other than the exceptional funding allowance made for Project B Gallagher because someone fancied another punt on a buy on the basis it would reap big dividends after the Brereton one the previous summer.

    Now granted - some of those signings have been good uns - Tosin, Downing, Cunningham until he got injured - and wages will not have been insignificant - but lets not make out like we've spent big or built on these guys. Come the summer most of them won't be here and those that are will be in the twilight of their careers. It's about as far away from the Brentford model as you can get - despite Mowbray referring to them as a template.

    It is also worth bearing in mind that Cunningham was only done at the 11th hour presumably when the financial requirements were more favourable or when we finally found space in the budget by offloading Mulgrew for 6 months.

    Money is virtually non-existent for transfer fees - as it was in the summer. The Gallagher and Brereton ones are special cases where someone chucked the cash in on the basis they were projects likely to pay off with interest in years to come. I don't believe that money could or would ever have materialised for other positions, or for several smaller purchases.

    Mowbray and Waggott get their budget in May for the year and there it is. The only way we will see incomings in January is by shuffling around on the wage bill by offloading a couple for a few months or if we get lucky and manage to sell someone.

    This talk about European targets, Polish wingers for £3 million, Venkys ready to invest but constrained by evil FFP rules is just fantasy land stuff. 

     

     

    Didn’t we also bid for Reed? (Albeit an unrealistic low bid) and another keeper in addition to Walton?

     I think a bit more money was there, no loads but some.

     

     

     

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