Typical Panorama journalism that will have most people who don't think about the program taking everything naratted as gospel and jumping up and down.The only solid evidence of anything on that program was an unknown 16 year old being illegally offered to both Chelsea and Liverpool. Even then there's no guarantee the meetngs were even set up to discuss the young lad. The meeting could have had another agenda and the agent just brought it up.

I always thought there were bungs and corruption going on. The fact Mike Newell had nothing really to gain and everthing to lose by saying so convinced me. Panorama did not.

Very well said. I think for those with their eyes open its blatantly obvious that there are some very shady happenings in the world of football, but unfortunately the panorama programme didn't even scratch the surface (although granted, it would be incredibly hard to do so).

All the programme has done has trivialised the situation by leaving out so many clubs and names involved, and focusing so narrowely on a couple of incidents without even providing sufficient evidance for prosecution.

To be fair Krislu its now out of the window, if Hughes thinks we need something immediately then we have to look at players we can bring in at this moment in time, which is obviously restricted to free's.

As many are saying, we are currently trying to run self-sufficiently and its clear for all to see that our revenue streams must be one of the lowest in the league, and therefore our spending has to reflect that if we are to stay afloat.

I don't think it's the case that lowering prices across the board will bring many more people into Ewood...my previous points have been more along the lines of how putting Cat A+ ticket prices on Sunday games against those teams who don't bring so many fans (such as Chelsea) is backfiring.

Ultimately though the club on the whole is charging as little as it can while also trying to bring in revenue. There are some little things the club can do (as have been put forward) but in reality nothing will really affect the overall situation.

However, I do think it is imperative that pubs are made to stop showing foreign broadcasts of games. It would bring a few more back to Ewood (stop them getting their football kick for next to nothing at the pub and some would come along at least every now and then) although hundreds probably rather than thousands.

Even this will only be a short-term measure however until all games are shown on Sky/Pay per view etc.

Tickets for English football matches are too expensive but that isn't the fault of Rovers - it's the greed of the Premiership as a whole.

All very true in my eyes, good post mate.

If sutton does or return, or indeed Sheringham arrives, I don't think its got anything to do with a lack of ambition.

Hughes obviously thinks we are still lacking a bit of experience up there, and at this time of the season there doesn't seem to be any other options.

I think the point has been reached were we must realise there is very little more we can do to attract people through the gates. As is mentioned over and over again, we are a very small town and one with a high ethnic population who do not seem to share the same interest in football (no racism involved, just stating facts).

Therefore the only way to get more people through the gates would be to charge uneconomically low prices and thus lose more revenue due to the extra expenditure incurred or to try and attract fans of other clubs to come and watch rovers, something that im sure all the real supporters dont want to see.

I still personally dont think ticket revenue is the be all and end all of income streams, and can easily be combatted with the celver budgeting instructed by JW. Its easy to say Spurs are in a greater position to compete because of there larger fanbase, but the fact remains that even if they earn an extra £5m per year from gates, this can easily be cancelled out with there pathetic transfer dealings, or paying somebody like danny murphy/steed malbranque/mido etc etc £30k a week to sit on there bench all season.

We must realise that there is no quick fix solution to attendances, if a solution is available at all, and therefore the job that JW and MH are doing is increasingly important to the club, and we must realise that.

Wiz, is that your nickname?

Just out of curiosity really. I've been whizz since I was about 3, a fantastic nickname im sure most will agree, but seems to be a bit common nowadays.

Its clear your input isn't wanted RoverTheMoon, there's absolutely no need to let us know each and every time you are apparently laughing.

I don't post as much as most on here as I'd prefer to read what others have to say, but its clear you really get people's backs up.

RoverTheMoon, you're post are unconstructive and generally very petty, i'm sure there are also rules against txt speak.

Would you not prefer to post on the official board?

Looks as though trials might be needed to seperate us desperado's

O dear, I think the big mans been dropped today.

What a strange transfer.

So were they a team that play togther regularly?

From the pictures they seem to be a collection of somewhat overweight lumberjacks, rather like Shefki.

I don't want to tread on anyones toes, but it would be nice to give them a good hammering at home.

If there is any places availalbe please let me know.

Cheers

I'd definately be up for playing in the return leg. I'm fairly confident we could make a good go of overturning this 10-3 business with a decent goalscorer.

I completely agree, Neill should not be captain. I'm not sure whether he has the leadership skills to warrant the position, and after the way he has acted this summer, im certain he wont have the full respect of the players in the same way that Tugay, Friedel and even Savage have.

Just called the ticket office who have apparently sold nearly 300 tickets so far.

Still considering this one.

I'd certainely be up for this fans game if you're still after players.

There'll be two or three of us coming so if you need extras...

Cheers

Looks like i've missed the deadline aswell. Fair enough if you don't add my score in at the end, but I thought I would add my two peneth.

1. Chelsea

2. Man United

3. Liverpool

4. Arsenal

5. Spurs

6. Bolton

7. Newcastle

8. Aston Villa

9. West Ham

10. Everton

11. Rovers

12. Wigan

13. Portsmouth

14. Middlesboro

15. Man City

16. Watford

17. Fulham

18. Reading

19. Charlton

20. Sheff Utd

To be fair to JJ I think he is a very talented player. He does seem to be rather bigheaded, but he reminds me of SWP quite a lot, he's got a very good first touch and nice technique, I wouldn't be surprised to see him do very well in the championship at make it back into the big league someday.

It would be a worry if it was in any way true.

Ryan Nelsen doesn't fit one of Arsene Wengers criterias which he uses when purchasing a player.

Not young, not quick, not athletic.

I suppose Senderos was young at least

There we go, nothing all summer and then we get 2 in 1 day.

Discuss...

Its not all fun and games, after our campervan broke down on the way out to Germany last Wednesday, I had to come home and get a flight out on Friday for 4 days with nowere to sleep.

That meant I missed the Germany v Costa Rica game and couldnt sell me £120 ticket.

Then went to sweden v trinidad.

I got to the USA v Czech game at 12:00 and tried to get rid of the 1 spare ticket i had, after about 2 minutes i was arrested by two plain clothed officiers, banged up for 12 hours on my own and fined 300 euros and released at midnight.

This world cup just wasn't meant to be for me.

Sounds extremely harsh and unrealistic, when you consider that there WILL be touts at every single game, the comments and threats they come out with are crazy.

Our games are:

1 x germany v costa rica (9th June) Munich

3 x trinidade v sweden (10th June) Dortmund

3 x usa v czech (12th June) Gelsenkurchen

3 x Ecuador v Costa Rica (15th June) Hamburg

3 x Costa Rica v Poland (20th June) Hanover

1 x Ghana v USA (22nd June) Nuremberg

3 x Ukraine v Tunisia (23rd June) Berlin

How did you manage to get travel and accomodation at this late stage?

I've got all of our tickets sorted but haven't got any travel yet and have nowere to stay, it looks as though were going to get a campervan as I was expecting everywere to be sold out.

Just finished the day off with an opening game ticket....that makes 7 now. Finally got the hang of the online shop.