Thought it was a brilliant interview, very entertaining. You can tell how much he loved playing for Rovers. Its interesting that so many of that Mark Hughes side say that those years at Blackburn were the best of their career. 

Going through the episode list for under the cosh they've had a lot of Rovers connected players on (Warnock, Dunn, Rathbone, Ben Marshall, Tim Sherwood, Jason Macateer, Craig Hignett, lots more)

35 minutes ago, danger19_80 said:

Do we know Sammie doesn't have a release clause in the new deal he signed? Might we still lose him on the relative cheap?

It would be odd if we offered a new deal with a sell on clause when he still had 2 years on his old deal (1 year + 1 year option) Better just to leave him on that.

I imagine of anything new contract would have been a big pay rise to remove any such release clauses in the previous deal, or (more likely) just get him under a longer contract to put us in a better negotiating position.

1 hour ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

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I would go further than 3 for the 1st Team. The rest have proved they aren’t good enough or are squad players only. If Szmodics goes for £10m+ then it’s time to spend some of the £40m we’ll have received from transfer dealings in the last year.

I won’t hold my breath.

If we're being realistic we are not going to sign that many players.

My expectation is that Hyam has been playing injured so should get back to himself after a proper pre season. And while I have reservations about Pickering and Brittain I think in the right system they do okay. 

With limited resources you need to target them to be most effective. Keeper and forwards for me. Id take signing two genuinely top forwards, an effective midfield creative player and a solid reliable keeper over loads of new starters of questionable quality.

The risks associated to turning over the entire XI are very high - as any review of signings over as long as football has existed is only aroun 50% of signings work out, so you can often spend a lot of money and leave yourself in a worse position.

1 hour ago, M_B said:

I wouldn't be too hasty with Pears,he's young for a keeper, and this season might just stand him in good stead. 

Yes, he's dropped a couple of clangers, but if anyone thinks we'll sign a keeper who doesn't, they will be in for disappointment. 

The improved defensive displays have come with Pears in goal. It looks like we've a coach who can set up a defence,it'll be interesting if Eustace gives him his support going forward. 

Hmmm third season of it though... Does a leopard change their spots.

I think Im okay with Pears on the bench but we need a really dependable first choice.

1 hour ago, B16Rover said:

Technically strong and if he was physically strong he'd be premier league.  The way around that is support with physical players (JRC, Dolan) and id put him between 10 and 15 goals.  Add in another 10 somewhere else and were looking ship shape 

Sigurdsson to me looks like he hasnt got up to speed with English football. Theres a chance with a full pre season he could come back a different player.

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

In the past weve been very lucky with goalscorers stepping up but theres definitely no one internal who will score a high number should Szmodics go.

Gallagher and Dolan would be the obvious 2 because unlike the rest theyve scored at least a few goals per season over a number of seasons, Gallagher usually gets 8 or 9 and Dolan less. But neither has it in them to suddenly start banging them in. Markanday is not good enough and needs moving on if anyone will have him. Leonard isnt ready for regular Championship football and there is plenty of hype around Gilsenan but he has only played a couple of league minutes and he might have scored a decent amount in the kids league but its a massive step up, see Vale as proof of that so if he becomes a first team member we have to treat it as a bonus rather than something we bank on.

I broadly agree with you, but also have to say not a soul on earth including you or I would have thought Szmodics would score how he has this season a year ago. I reckon the most optimistic Sammie lover would have said he could get 10 or 15.

So we dont really know how it will pan out. I could see either Sigurdsson or Hedges scoring more if they get a more prominent central role. It would be no more outlandish than what has happened with Szmodics.

But obviously it would be much much better if we actually go out and sign an experienced striker with a good scoring record at this level.

55 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's 37, if his legs haven't gone now they never will. 

Im pretty sure after seeing him run Fadz legs went a long time ago. But as long as we play deep with three at he back its not a problem for him as he doesnt get exposed.

My main issue with Fadz is if he plays we have to play that way to accomodate him. I guess the plan would be have him on the bench and bring him on to close out games. Sort of makes sense... But hes a specialist effectively, dont think we can rely on him as a core starter.

9 hours ago, tomphil said:

Sammie, what a player.

Better in all depts than Dack and BBD especially attitude, a real gem.

Deserves big things if they come next.

For me hes quite wasteful as an attacking mid, picks the wrong pass all the time and gives it away in dangerous places but as a striker hes lethal. His movement and finishing are so good. Also works his balls off which you have to respect.

Bet he and his agent are wondering why he didnt convert to a striker earlier in his career. They would both be a lot richer!

I would never bemoan a player a move to a higher division, but Szmodics particularly Id be pleased for as the work ethic hes always shown has been so good.

37 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Just seen Gallaghers Instagram - looks like he's here for another season.

Im pretty sure we'll sell him if we get a good offer. Combination of high wages, him walking for free next year and his poor season means he will go. Will be very very surprised if hes here come September.

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

The overall squad this season is far inferior to last season. Hence we didnt improve.

We may improve the squad in the summer, we may not, if Szmodics goes we may get worse. Its an unknown.

Far inferior seems a bit of a stretch? Lost BBD and Kaminaki and gained Tronstad and Wahlstead. Loans roughly the same quality for me. Thats about it? Lost Wharton half way through the season, but then he was only used about half of last season?

Kaminski was a massive loss, and a good keeper is so crucial, but apart from that I dont think there has been a massive change in quality since last year. Since BBD went Szmodics has more than filled his void as the goals tally show.

The difference for me has not been the squad quality, its been the escalating madness off the field leading to JDT leaving and the general confusion and demotivation round the squad.

Travis must be exactly the sort of player Eustace rates. I imagine he will be keen to bring him back in.

Can't see Trav going unless we get a decent offer.

3 hours ago, roverandout said:

He'll be a star for England playing alongside players like rice and Bellingham 

It will be an interesting battle between Wharton and Mannoo to get the third midfield birth alongside those two. They are both just the sorts of player to compliment Rice and Bellingham as well. What's impressive about England's midfield is not only is there a lot of quality already there and coming through, but different types of player who play in very different ways.

Also hats off to Wharton I thought physically it would take him a while to get up to speed in the Prem, but he's already dictating games. 

37 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

In the second half of the season we have 19 points (obviously with one to play)

Last year QPR stayed up despite only getting 16 points from the last 23 games

The year before Reading stayed up having got 20 points

The year before that Bristol City stayed up having got 18 points

I haven’t looked any further back but it would appear to be a surprisingly regular occurrence.

 

 

 

This is the kind of research that I come to BRFCS for. Strong work! Thank you.

We should just survive but Id love to know how many teams showing our form over the latter half of a season have stayed up the next year. Must be tiny.

(If you extrapolate that last 50% of gaes over a full season its around 37 points.....)

Im very much a glass half full person but it's very hard to not conclude we are done.

3 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:

I’m still convinced we’ll somehow drop on the final day. It’s so Venky’s. It’s so rovers.

Well I doubt we will get anything from Leicester. So were hoping that a Plymouth and Birmingham dont both win or only one wins and Wednesday dont at least draw.

Individually packaged each seems possible but all two in combination seems unlikely. Wonder what the bookies reckon.

It such a strange feeling.... feels like we are definitely going down. But somehow bookies have us at 10/1 - I guess just due to all the permutations. So we will probably survive unless the bookies have all lost their minds.

But - our form second half of the season is absolutely unbelievable. I don't think I have ever seen anything so bad over as   sustained a period as half a season in all my time following Rovers.

A month or two bad form you can put down to the ups and downs of the league, but something as sustained as this does suggest we are going straight down next season. 

I think ultimately if you look at the common denominator it's not really the players or the manager (although they could both be better) - it's the instability at the top of the club which is killing us. As important as finding good players in the summer is going to be finding some firm footing for the clubs future we can build on. I think if we can get a secure financial basis for the club that will be a huge psychological uplift and enable some sensible planning whatever budget we have. But another summer of uncertainty and I really think we are fooked.

21 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I've just seen the goals on tv and I'm staggered that Pears tries to blame Hyam for his aberration for the third goal. He is compounding his embarrassment. And for their second Brittain looks like he is towing a caravan trying to keep up with the Wednesday full back who scored. Under normal circumstances there would be wholesale changes for the Coventry game but I'm beginning to fear that Eustace isn't comfortable making big decisions that might upset players. His all too cosying up to the players just doesn't sit right with me. 

Agree with this, I cant think of a single big call hes made with the players. Always picks the most obvious XI. Hasnt punished players for poor performances. Hasnt rested anyone. I dont think hes dropped anyone except when injured/ suspended? Which given the results being relegation form is a bit surprising.

Well I always like to give the manager time and a decent run of games before coming to a view. But I think its fair to say hes not got it.

We're not a brilliant team but we have the leagues top scorer and essentially the same set of players who finished seventh last year. If the first XI was disassembled I am pretty sure every player except Pears will get a contract at a mid table Championship club.

With the team he should have had two or three more wins by now on the board minimum. I really thought after Leeds he had shown something but a performance like that today is not acceptable.

Surely need to change to four at the back now?

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I worked this out yesterday and removing his goals put us on (I think) 35 points.

Of course this doesn’t take into account the influence of the rest of his game.

Its not an exact science though is it... If you went back and told everyone on this board that Szmodics would not only replace Diazs goals but more than double them then the pitch forks would be out.

Its very hard to predict what happens.

Double post...

I do wonder if the games being more on TV will actually increase attendances. Certainly the trend across English football has been increases in attendances even though more and more games are available on TV up and down the leagues

Rovers are going the opposite way but I think that might be more about terrible ownership.

Youd think more TV = lower gates but just not been the case. Championship used to have very few games on TV but it's going up and up.

Anyone with half a brain has been able to watch every EFL game using a VPN since Covid, but again attendances still going up....

https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengleague.htm

One of those things that might be counter intuitive? In 2016 100 championship games were on Sky. This year 193....

On 14/04/2024 at 12:39, chaddyrovers said:

do we need alot of signings this summer? 

Current squad for next season

keepers - Pears, Wahlstedt, Michalski 

Defenders - Brittain, Carter, Hyam, Wharton, O'Riordan, Pickering, 

CM's - Tronstad, Garrett, Buckley, JRC, Travis

wide players - Dolan, Markanday, Sigurdsson, Hedges, 

no 10 - Szmodics, Gilsenan

Strikers - Gallagher, Vale, Telalovic, Leonard

I have included Dolan and Gallagher cos I expect them to sign next contract. 

I think we deffo need a pacey wide player, Striker, right back, maybe another Keeper if we loan out Wahlstedt for a season, I would use Gent at left back back up given the reviews he had there, could do with another centre back or maybe re sign McFadzean for another season. Then a replacement for Szmodics if he does leave. 

Nicholas Michalski? 

If the squad stays the same (and I assume someone will buy Szmodics and Carter while Gallager will also leave but let's wait and see) then I would say the priority list is :

1. A genuine goal scoring target man striker
2. A pacy winger with good delivery
3. A reliable goal keeper
4. A creative centre mid
5. A left back (maybe Gent coming back covers this?)
6. An experienced centreback

Everyone loves listing that we need 10 signings or whatever which is not realistic. If we could get those 6 before outgoings and they were quality that would make the difference.

Tactically its an awkward one as the team against Leeds performed so well but it was a totally different sort of game as we knew Leeds would attack all game.

Wednesday will probably be a lot more defensive.... That said they need the win more than we do so theyll have to commit players forward eventually - though if the clubs around them lose on Saturday they may aim for a point.

It really is all about not conceding the first goal. Thats the most important thing by far. So probably setup same way as Leeds, sit deep, but be ready to break quickly. Think it could be quite a dull game.