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  1. 1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

    A late draw and an away win have taken the winds out the sails too.

    And, on the back of those two results, Ismael’s been out doing his full victory lap in the LT today - takes time to make an impact, now we’ve got stability you can see what we can do etc etc - plus of course it was the injuries and lack of options from the bench that to were blame and not him and his tactics (although quite how a poor bench contributes to continually conceding early goals I’m not entirely sure)

    I still think we need to get rid of this charlatan, but probably not before we’re rid of the three stooges (or at least Gestede) because, as the link to Rooney shows, there’s little to no chance that he would be replaced by anyone more competent. 

  2. 1 hour ago, OnionBalaji said:

    Gavin ward hates us 

    If he wasn’t a ref he’d be a traffic warden

     

    45 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

    ...Gavin Ward id a *****

     

    21 minutes ago, Cherry Blue said:

    It's all about GAVIN!

    You guys do know that Gavin Ward wasn’t reffing us today, don’t you? 

    I mean, all of what you say is true, Gavin Ward is a ****, he does seem to hate us and does always love to be centre of attention, but it just seems a bit strange in a thread about a match refereed by David Webb 🤷‍♂️

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  3. 18 hours ago, levi said:

    It wouldn't surprise me if they backed him tbh 

     

    I actually wrote that taking the piss but then thought it actually wouldn't 

    I said something similar to my lad the other day. I honestly could see them spending a bit in the market this summer (not loads, but £6/7m) in a misguided attempt to try and placate the fans - in typical Rovers fashion though it will be done at a time when we’ve got one of the worst managers in our history and we’ll be left saddled with a squad full of crap signed to play his football. 
     

    Just imagine where we could be if they had given JDT an extra 5 or 6 million!

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  4. 3 hours ago, arbitro said:

    I thought the second half was actually the best we have played under Ismael (an exceedingly low bar I admit) but starting slowly is becoming a trait.

    This is the issue with losing the game in the first 10 minutes, it allows perceptions of the overall performance to be skewed. 

    I said to my lad as we were driving home that I knew exactly what the managers post match interview was going to be - “first half wasn’t good enough, but second half we played well, stats show we had more possession, more territory etc, this is how I want to the team to play going forward etc” - but all of that ignores the fact that we were 2-0 down and Boro’s second half gameplan was clearly to defend deep and hit us on the break (and, as someone else has already pointed out, even then they created the better chances and should have scored more). As we saw against Cardiff, if the game was in the balance in the second half, our performance would have been equally poor throughout the whole 90 minutes. 

    There’s no discernible patterns or plan to how we play. At one point in the first half Hedges seemed to come in off the wing and be playing almost as an extra CM and Travis was having a go at him and telling him to go back out to the left - had he been told to go inside by the manager? If so, why did our captain not know about it, and if not, then why has he decided to take it upon himself to change his position? All the while VI just stands there looking bored with his hands in his pockets.
    And then in the second half the same happened, this time with JRC moving into midfield and Hyam having a go and telling him to get back to RB. 

    The players either don’t know what they’re supposed to be doing, or they do know and they’ve decided that they don’t want to - but either way it boils down to the clown in charge and it doesn’t end well 
    At a normal club he’d be out of the door today and Lowe back in temporary charge until the end of the season, but instead we all know that he’ll be here for the full 3 years, probably with us at the bottom of league 2 when he finally leaves!!

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  5. 48 minutes ago, lraC said:

    I honestly believe if Pasha was driven out, they would sell.

    He is the owners eyes and ears and is currently telling them the club does not need their funding and can run itself.

    He is ex Kentaro and has been here from the start. 

    I hope you’re right

    43 minutes ago, arbitro said:

    I agree. The triumvirate of Waggott, Gestede and Pasha are the human shields for the Punekars and have as much blood on their hands as them.

    They are far more accessible and easier to discredit simply because they are in this country.

    I don’t disagree with this, in so far as those three are the human shields for the Venkys - they’re there to take the flak for the decisions and general mismanagement that happens above them (and they get paid a pretty price for doing so) and it’s working - it just feels like we’re aiming at the shields and not those hiding behind them, but hopefully I’m wrong and, as IraC says, it will help to force out the root cause of the problem too

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  6. 14 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

    To add some meat the bones,

    I've spoken to some other groups today who also endorse this course of action.

    We'd like to issue a statement politely requesting that Waggott, Suhail and Gestede do not attend any of our remaining home fixtures , to aid the support of the team.

    Their attendance is a distraction due to many supporters desire for the removal of all three and the club to be sold.

    At a time where it's mathematically possible to reach the play offs, the manager and players need our support and those mentioned need to play their part by staying away to create a positive environment rather than the toxic environment which may occur given the supporter unrest.

     

    Obviously this ain't the statement but it's the cusp of what will be said.

     

    This would need a response which the media would seek. Should they refuse, the protest and unrest is purely of their design 

    I appreciate what is being done, and can see where you’re coming from, but for me this is aiming at the wrong targets. Waggott, Suhail and Gestede (and Ismael for that matter) are just symptoms of the root cause.
    Say this works to the extent that all three resign their positions, they’d just be replaced by more of the same - or, as history shows, even worse (if that’s possible)

    I don’t want to sound like I’m being critical, because I really do appreciate the time and effort that people like yourself and others put in - and I honestly don’t have any better ideas - but the only way the club can move forwards to get rid of the owners - everything else is just a distraction imo

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  7. 6 hours ago, rog of the rovers said:

    I agree that Ismael has hardly endeared himself to the fans with his first three games, the tactics and lack of clear plan has been alarming, he has to improve quickly and start building for next season, where survival will be our main priority once again.

    However, I do think that the players have to take a huge chunk of responsibility for this recent run of games. Swansea, Norwich, Derby and Stoke. Three dismal performances (one which pre-dates Ismael) in that stretch and lets not forget QPR and Oxford away before that. The performances since Christmas have been particularly concerning.

    Would anyone want to commit another 3 years with Hyam? The loanees bar Beck are replaceable. And last night for me was the peak of frustration with Tyrhys Dolan. I like the kid, his personality and as a role model. But I do really believe the best for him and us is for him to move on.

    Exhibit A - Cantwell feeds Dolan running through the centre in the 6th minute (0-0)

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    Loses out to the defender

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    Below is another at 0-0 Rovers on the counter attack with 4 on three, what happens next?

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    You may feel this it nit picking but we know how crucial the first goal is at this level. This is twice before Stoke City scored!

    Gave the ball away on several occasions before and after that. One leading to a Manhoef shot which was blocked.

    I do give Dolan credit for the cut back for the Cantwell shot, but we need more and more often!

    Not just Dolan (although I agree he is frustrating in the extreme), we just never seem to capitalise on these kind of situations. The goal they scored was gifted to them by Hyam misplaced a pass out of defence, but, be honest, if we had been gifted the ball in the exact same way what are the chances we would have scored from it?

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  8. I haven’t had chance to see them again, but from my seat in the JWL it looked like Dennis’ first challenge could easily have been a straight red, but then I think he’s very unlucky to get a second yellow for the second one - he has to be able to go for that ball and I think that’s a case (again) of a ref not understanding how to play the game.
    Also what happened to warning players - the ref was happy to warn their number 26 in the first half when he committed two fouls either of which could very easily have been a yellow card, but then couldn’t get the cards out quickly enough when it came to Dennis. 

    Anyway - overall I think we were very fortunate to come away with a point as we were second best for the majority of the match. Ironically we had just started to look like we could compete with them when the sending off came. 
    I’ve said before, we give up possession far too easily and against teams that like to keep the ball, such as Norwich & Swansea, we struggle to do anything because they don’t give us the ball nearly as frequently as we give it to them. Fortunately next week we’re playing Derby, and no one can accuse them of keeping possession well, so I think (hope) we’ll look a bit better. 

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  9. 44 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

    A few points of concern:

    A watching brief for the rest of the season

    Passed off the contracts question as an "opportunity" to shape the squad, which sounds suspiciously like no renewals and replaced with free transfers

    Brushed off the long term question by stating the short term was the focus of their discussions

    Back to bringing through academy players to sell for profit (and not reinvesting, obviously)

    For me the concern is that, from the sounds of it, he’s been given a similar task to JDT - to develop the young players and ‘build an identity’, but, going off his previous roles, the identity he will look to build for us will be almost polar opposite of that which JDT was trying to build - which seems crazy to me - surely the point of a club identity is that it should be relatively fixed, with each new manager just tweaking little bits, rather than it being ripped up and completely changed every time a new manager comes in 🤷‍♂️

    Just like everything else at the club at the moment, it just smacks of a complete lack of long term planning and focus 

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  10. 14 hours ago, ... said:

    I think its built in to want to  see the other team where the manager is going, fail.

    I dont want them to win. I dont want any other team to win apart from my own. Gave us some good games to be excited about this season and created a solid back line for us. 

    We move on

    And whoever’s playing the dingles, surely?

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  11. Honestly, before last Saturday’s almost heroic effort against Man City, would anyone have even considered Wellens? That one’s a big no from me. 

    Gerrard did well when he had Beale & Critchley with him - it all seemed to fall apart quite quickly once they got their own jobs elsewhere. 
    If, and it’s a big if, at least one of those were coming with him I wouldn’t be opposed to him getting it in the short-term - I don’t think he’s a particularly good manager, but then neither is Lampard and he’s got Coventry flying at the moment. A little bit of new manager bounce, feel-good factor, call it what you will, might be all we need to secure a playoff spot this year. 
    Long term though I definitely don’t think he’s the right choice. 

    And, if we’re going down that route of a big name former player, I’d much rather we pushed to see if Damien Duff would come. The feel-good factor of having Duffer come home might just lift everyone’s spirits and take away some of the doom and gloom around the club - in the short term at least, before it all goes to shit again in the summer.

    But Rob Edwards or Gary O’Neill would be my more realistic choices. 
    Edwards came into Luton in a similar position 2 years ago and had the sense not to change too much (despite having coached teams to play a different style previously) and carried them to promotion. And that’s exactly what we need here - a couple of tweaks, especially going forward, but not wholesale changes. 

    And O’Neill I think is a steady, if unspectacular, manager who did ok at Bournemouth and then slightly better at Wolves in his first season there - this season they were playing well at first but not getting the results and then it looked like he’d lost the players at the end, but as others have said there were some mitigating factors. I think he’d keep us ticking over enough this season to push for a playoff spot and, probably more crucially, would have enough about him to keep us out of trouble next season if we’re still in the championship. 

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  12. It’s no secret that I’m not Eustace’s biggest fan, but I’m still disappointed that he’s gone - I would have liked to see how the season finished with him at the helm and I think parting ways at the end of the season would have been a better outcome for all involved (including Eustace who very likely will now spend next season managing in league 1)

    And it goes without saying that this whole situation shows (once again) that the club is a binfire at the moment and isn’t sustainable in the long run. 

    However, if what Elliott Jackson has written is true, then I have to say I’m glad we didn’t just cave in to whatever Eustace wanted. His preference for signing older players would have left us with an aging squad with no resale value and tbh they’re not even that good:
    Batth is the one who has really worked out, but even then he’s playing better than I think anyone would have expected. McFadz couldn’t get a game, Weimann has chipped in with some important goals but his overall game isn’t great and he doesn’t have the legs for 90 minutes, Bamford - one good season in his entire career, hated by Leeds fans and made of glass - thank god that one was vetoed!!

    And I think the expectation that Smzodics would have stayed with a pay rise is naive too - he was talking about wanting to move to the prem literally a couple of days after last season ended. All a bumper new contract offer would have done is to encourage every other player in the squad to knock on the door demanding more. 

    In terms of what comes next - as a few others have already said, whilst Eustace has done well (and certainly outperformed what most of us expected) he isn’t irreplaceable - the last 3 managers now have all had us challenging around the playoffs with what, on paper, looks a poor squad and every year I see people on here saying that this is our best chance because the league is poor and it won’t be next season - but like I said it gets said every year, and every year (including last season) we’re in the mix in the first half of the season - so maybe we just need to accept that our players are perhaps better than we think they are and/or the quality of the league is just poor every year. 
    We are in a fantastic position and who knows, maybe a new voice, some new ideas, a new manager bounce etc etc might just see us squeeze into the playoffs this year

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  13. 2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

    Plymouth 1 Liverpool 0

    That's the way to do it

    Had our perfectly good goal not been ruled out for offside, or a penalty given to us when Kargbo was clipped, then we may well have come away with 1-0 win too. 

    Or, put another way, would Plymouth have still gone on to win had the referee screwed them over and not given them the penalty?

    But no, you’re right, it’s all just down to mentality 

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  14. 5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

    For the first time this season I have to put that loss squarely at the feet of the manager.

    How he continues to trot Pears out there when he's giving away a goal a game is beyond me. Another howler again. If we had their GK it's at least a draw.

    Then to only give Kargbo 5 minutes at the end is criminal, especially with Hedges stinking out the joint again. You're not telling me he hasn't been running rings round our players in training - he ran past two of theirs like they weren't there then. 

    I’m almost certain he won’t have trained with us at all yet, let alone run rings around anyone. Given we played Friday night, I’m not sure they’ll have trained between then and travelling down to London. The lad is probably only just learning his new teammates’ names, let alone how the manager wants to play etc - anyone expecting him to get anything more than about 10 minutes tonight was always going to be disappointed. 

    From the other comments on here, I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who is frustrated by Cantwell - I got pelters for mildly criticising him earlier in the season.
    He should be made to watch the video of Chair from tonight - the way he finds space, makes dangerous runs and, most importantly, keeps possession for his team - that’s what we want (and need) Todd to be doing, but at the moment he doesn’t look capable 

    Also interesting to see Eustace getting a bit of stick tonight. We’ve ridden our luck a bit this season - far too often we’ve been too careless in possession, but good results paper over the cracks. Now we’re on a poor run it’s more obvious that our tactics hand momentum to the opposition too easily.
    And whilst we all know that he has been let down in the transfer market by those above him, so has every manager these jokers have appointed. At what point does our poor run stop being a good manager let down and start being a ‘death spiral’?

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  15. 21 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

    I actually made a bit of a case for Telalovic last June (post below). I said at the time that I felt like I'd seen flashes of a useful player there in his interchanges and general play, but his confidence looked shot to bits, and he missed one or two great opportunities.  The Stoke game just after Eustace's arrival was probably his poorest cameo when we were serverley under the cosh and he gave the all away 2 or 3 times... after that he rarely appeared again - Eustace probably didn't trust him.  It'll be interesting to see how his career progresses. 

     

    I too didn’t think he was that bad - he got himself into decent positions, but just never managed to find the finish. 
    I don’t think he ever really got a proper chance though - it’s very difficult to find form when you’re only getting the odd 5 minutes here and there, or thrown into the lineup for a cup game as a one-off. 

    I still maintain that had he played as many minutes as Gallagher did over the season he would have at least matched his goal return 

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  16. 35 minutes ago, ... said:

    What's the reason for Pears not taking a proper goal kick? He ends up hoofing it under pressure with no thought when he could of just taken it from the off.

    The idea is that it spreads the opposition out because they have to have some closing down the short ball as well as being ready for the long one - which, in theory, provides more space to play in and gives you a better chance of keeping hold of possession (I think I saw a stat that nearly 90% of long goal kicks are turned over possession - although obviously some managers, such as Big Sam for instance, will take the view that even if you turn over possession it is at least in the opposition half and so if you can then win it back you’re in a better position than on the edge of your own box 🤷‍♂️)

    Of course what happened in the first half last night (and not for the first time) is that our passing and movement is so poor that we end up just smashing it long to their defenders and conceding possession anyway

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  17. 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

    For 60 mins that was the worst we’ve played this season.

    In fairness we were playing with a disadvantage for that period - Pompey kept passing the ball to each other whilst our lads clearly hadn’t been told they were allowed to do that!!

    Thankfully it improved (although it couldn’t have got worse) and it was Gueye who really made the difference.
    I get the frustration about the lack of goals from him, but I’ve never felt he deserves the amount of stick he gets on here. The lads a natural target man - wins flick ons, holds the ball up well - and given that we defend so deep he’s fairly crucial to how we play as he allows us to get out and to play in the opposition half occasionally. 

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  18. 5 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

    Not disagreeing with your take on the match but Gueye was certainly making a run for the pass, when Cantwell passed it straight to the Dingle. Cantwell was awful today, so slow on the ball and turned it over on numerous occasions, he’s not looking like the quality player that I had hoped, he would.

    Have to agree, I thought Cantwell was definitely our weakest player today and I was amazed that he stayed on for the whole match.

    Being generous I’d say he wasn’t fit, but then that makes it even more surprising that he wasn’t taken off. But given the impact we’ve seen from past players in his position, Dack & Szmodics most recently, you’d have to say that currently he has been somewhat of a letdown. 

    Personally, today, I’d have brought Hedges on at halftime and moved Dolan into the number 10 position. 

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  19. 12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

    What about the additional 90 seconds he added on to the 10?

    The camera caught Eustace having a go at the 4th official on 98 minutes. He said "There's 2 minutes left, not 5". He knew what was going to happen.

    We had two players booked for time wasting during the added time, so again he was always likely to add some extra on.

    It’s always been a bugbear of mine that refs will acknowledge that teams are time-wasting (by booking players or pointing to their watch) but then not actually add on extra time to make up for it. For instance Hull were wasting time from the first 10 minutes onwards on Sunday but we only got 1 minute extra in the first half and 4 in the second. 
    I suppose we can be upset that the ref today applied the rules correctly when often they don’t, but personally I’d rather they all did the same 

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  20. 15 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

    This is the most baffling additional time I have seen ever i think. We should be writing into the football league for an explanation.

    Are you joking? There were 2 lengthy injuries in the first 10 minutes of the second half - it was always going to be 8+ minutes added. And the 10 minutes was shown just around the time the ball was played forward for JRC to win the corner from which we equalised - so no conspiracy theories needed. 

    There’s plenty of things we could feel aggrieved about - the penalty was soft and he wasn’t going to give it until Gnonto got into his face, Ampadu got away without a yellow card despite the most blatant handball you’ll ever see, the numerous soft freekicks he gave to their right back, to name just a few, so there’s no need to be making things up to get upset about 

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  21. 24 minutes ago, Ricky said:

    The young CB is an interesting one. Obviously very highly rated by them so it definitely seems like a good appointment. Must spell the end for Riordon though. 

    Id argue it’s not a priority position for us and if we were to bring someone in there a loan would make more sense as we have two players due back later in the year.

    We are not scoring enough and that’s clearly the area we need to be looking at. 

    The problem with signing a loan CB in January is that we would probably be looking for them to come in as cover for Hyam/Batth/Carter (when he’s fit), and so you’re not likely to get a decent loan on that basis - clubs don’t like loaning their best youngsters out to sit on Championship teams benches

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