2 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

All the reports are loan though. We will see, think we had it reported as a loan once when it was actually a permanent...wasn't it with Davenport, funnily enough?

It would be odd for all parties if they did purely loan. Not least Brighton who slapped a price tag of reported £3m on him in May. I reckon loan to buy for £1m with a sell on...just a guess.

Just now, bluebruce said:

Don't think there's been any clamour to 'replace' Davenport, a lad who has sadly only played one game for us if I remember rightly? We have a ton of CMs and the lad is only out for 6-8 weeks (for now..). There wasn't really room in the squad as it was for two fringe youth players who should both be pushing on.

Plenty of room. Smallwood getting fazed out, Evans has half a season, max, Rothwell will play further forward and Downing will be used in different positions. I think Davenport will have been earmarked to play a lot of football this year and I hope (in his absence) that they play Buckley rather than sign Adam or Whelan.

My ideal in a 433 would be to play Johnson as the anchor and play Travis (to the right of the three) and one of Rothwell or Buckley to the left. 

2 hours ago, bluebruce said:

I'm struggling to understand this Walton loan deal from a few angles. Maybe someone can help me out.

Why don't Wigan want him back? If they do, why are Brighton or the player in favour of sending him to us instead? He's played a lot of games for them over the last couple of seasons, and kept a scary amount of clean sheets (I assume the vast bulk in League One though). On the face of it, it seems he would be the number one at Wigan, playing in the same league, familiar environment, and just going off goals conceded in total and away, a slightly better defence? I can't see why Brighton or Walton would swap that for a new environment, shaky defence, and being only a challenger for the jersey based on TM's remarks. So I'm assuming it comes down to Wigan not wanting him back, or having signed a better goalie?

The other part I doubt anyone will help me with, they'll probably just give me opinions I don't agree with (I can picture them now), but I'll say it anyway. What's to be gained from this being a loan deal, for Brighton or the player? Again, he's not likely to be a guaranteed starter here at all if we get this more experienced goalie, and at this point of his development surely he needs that and can get that (maybe from one of the promoted teams if nobody else?). I can see how it helps us, we presumably get cheap, decent cover without splashing out for it. I'd rather we signed him permanently though. I'm wondering if we might find out this is actually a loan with a view to buy (if not in clause, then in principle if we like him). Partly because we like to do that, and partly because it would make more sense to Brighton (financial incentive) and Walton (chance for a stable home and maybe as number one after our older keeper ends his loan or starts to wobble).

A further benefit for us might be that if he doesn't play so much due to competition here, his price tag might drop...though this might make him less likely to want to join us.

Doesn’t really make sense unless he’s permenant?

The manager giving specific praise to Bucko after the Rangers match yesterday. He’s the reason we won’t replace Davenport ??

54 minutes ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

Really hope it is this guy. Looks like a quality winger. 

Diangana

Walton 

Adarabioyo 

Kuszczak

4 coming in this week. 

I think we’ll do an experienced CB as well as those positions ??

1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

For the record , Walton wasn’t the name I was given, nor was Carson. So if either of them come to fruition then my contact was wrong and I hold my hands up. 

No need to hold your hands up pal. Things change and that’s life. Even if both signings you had signed, you still have people questioning you...

Just now, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:

This is Nicko we are all listening to BTW. 

Let's just see what happens. I reckon it will be Forster on loan and Walton permanent. 

That would be amazing!!!

3 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Jesus , I’m out. Go back to speculating in the dark. Some folk have issues here and ruin it for the others. 

Don’t rise mate. They genuinely don’t like any real info. Prefer spouting nonsense. Laugh at them and scroll on..

19 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Think that should be "you're".......as in abbreviated you are 

Unbelievable. Why are you trying to hound out the only guy with any real info? Turn it in.

37 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Biz seemed happy enough with a young loanee and ‘improved game management from the existing defence’.

IF this one youngster is the only one to come in, I think that’s a risky approach and certainly not what TM was planning in May, do you not agree?

Nope, I don’t think one defender is enough.

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Sounds great, he’s going to instill this into an entire defence?

No, but he, DG, Johnson, Downing and our defence with another year of experience might?

For what it’s worth I expect us to sign an experienced CB too..

4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

You said we weren’t far away, I presume that means from the top 6? So an improved side ergo has us challenging, no?

No extremes with me as we’ll be mid table again, it’s you that sounds like he needs to cool your jets.

Where is the improved ‘game management’ coming from defensively, by the way? Just this keeper who we don’t even know? Or a young lad who’s hardly played centre half?

Jeez, do you think that game management just comes from Defenders? 

Just now, Neal said:

I've long thought that it wouldn't be unrealistic to poach a goalkeeper from the Bundsliga or Bundesliga 2.

I agree wages in the Bundesliga (other than the top couple of teams) are similar to the Championship.

I genuinely don’t think our number one target is Carson you know. If it were that link would be strong by now and being talked about on both sides. Interesting. 

33 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Yup can see that one falling too

Good, Adarabioyo and one Keeper will make my Sat! ??

3 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Il put my neck on the line and say we will play hard and get a keeper by tomorrow night...

Good. And what about Adarabioyo? 

Just now, Boroblue said:

Yeah I always think that when teams get relegated but it rarely seems to work out the way it should do on paper. Our division is littered with prime examples of failed transfer strategy. Fulham where useless in the premiership and while I accept that the championship is a completely different animal there appears something about relegation from the premiership that drains confidence or conversely breeds over confidence. Whatever the reason relegated teams struggle to achieve immediate bounce back.

Sorry for the of topic ramble

Fulham are a team of absolute shit houses. Always have been. Doubt very much they’ll go back up.

Just now, JHRover said:

None of those were available on heavily subsidised loans though.

Imagine putting £17m a year into something and being referred to as a cheapskate. You must be absolutely minted.

Sharpe spoke with Mowbray tonight. Any updates from the manager?

Just now, JHRover said:

Clock is ticking. Soon enough time will be up. Positions like GK and CB are not ones that can be neglected or 'put off' to a later date as we've tried doing before. Especially not with our record of goals against.

A dangerous game to sell Raya without someone already here to replace him. 2 weeks on and no arrival is alarming to say the least. 2 weeks to go. Leutwiler or Fisher v Charlton will be completely unacceptable.

I have to agree. They took the decision to let Raya go without anything else agreed and they will live and die by those decisions. 

Just now, roverandout said:

Burnley

Why isn’t there a ❤️ Button?

@Bbrovers2288 anything going down? 

Just now, K-Hod said:

Mate, after that goal away at Derby in the Cup, I called him the same. 

Chest, half volley, sithi! Didn't think he had it in him!

????

Just now, Mattyblue said:

So Lenihan’s (with his well known quality distribution) going to be putting crosses on the strikers’ heads now?

Yeah definitely leave it to the tacticians, Paul.

An old fella near me in the JW used to refer to Dann as ‘Dann-basten’ If he were to return...though one may consider that tongue in cheek?

Just now, Mattyblue said:

So Lenihan’s (with his well known quality distribution) going to be putting crosses on the strikers’ heads now?

Yeah definitely leave it to the tacticians, Paul.

IF Matthew, IF we are....?

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Still convinced it'll be Carson and this Rangers lad. Reckon Rangers GK and Citeh youngster today, then Carson over the weekend. Still very much hoping we bring in a big, experienced nasty bugger the back too.

I reckon that will be our lot. ((After the big nasty bugger)