5 hours ago, JacknOry said:

Just cant see it - looks like lazy journalism to me. Beisla has been interested in BB since he played against him two seasons ago? He was awful two seasons ago.

I might agree with you.  And even did for a bit.  But this news seems to be popping up everywhere today, from Mexico to Argentina and the UK.  Seems Brereton is one of 3 players Bielsa has instructed Leeds United director of football Victor Orta to keep a close eye on (the other two being a Hungarian player, Attila Szabi of Fenerbace and Spaniard Javi Galan of Huesca).  But it really doesn't matter.  There will always be rumors of transfers and interest in football and you are probably correct in that it's essentially clickbait.  It worked on me.

And so it begins....Marcelo Bielsa and his Leeds United are looking at BB.  There are sure to be a lot of rumors about Premiere League teams eyeing Brereton.  Bielsa has the ability to work miracles and make his players not only better athletes but better human beings as well.  For BB, nothing would be better than being coached by Bielsa [and for the Chilean national team as well].  Whether it is better for Rovers is another question.  Offloading someone for whom Rovers overpaid and who doesnt seem to fit into Mowbray's system may not be such a bad thing.  But i have a hard time seeing Bb play for Bielsa.  I like the guy vut he's a bit of a stiff [log, as we say in Spanish.].

https://motleedsnews.com/transfers/blackburn-rovers-forward-ben-brereton-on-marcelo-bielsas-radar-as-leeds-united-eye-move/

In this other short clip [Titled "Ben Brereton Teasing 'Posh' Sierralta"], Isla and Brereton "take the mickey" out of Francisco Sierralta, defender for Watford and another player Brereton has been spending time with since he also speaks Tarzan English.  "Cuico" means posh or high class.  There are parallels between the Chilean and British class systems and like in the UK your accent can mark you as high or low born.  Most footballers in South America are from the lower or working classes but a few upper middle class players sneak through.  I have no idea if Sierralta is posh or not but he is from the posh part of Santiago. 

So in this video, Isla is making fun of Sierralta's supposed posh Chilean accent.  He begins by telling Ben Diez "The people want you to talk like Sierralta", and BB obliges.  Isla then immitates a high class speech pattern and encourages BB to do it too, which he does.  Bravo ends by saying he is both the Spanish and English teacher for the team, which is scary!

Benjamín Bréreton continues to bond with his team mates.  The earlier video of Isla teaching Ben Diez Chilean Spanish went viral and made the news, further endearing him to the Chilean public.  

So now in this video [Titled "Claudio Bravo and Mauricio Isla Teasing Ben Brereton"], BB is being coy about participating in any more Chilean lessons from Isla and Bravo (at least on video!), aware of how much media attention he gets for whatever he does now.  

The audio begins with BB staying, about Isla's language teaching abilities as "Bad!  Very Bad".  Isla then states "He says he doesn't want to talk.  He says he made too much press.  He's being shy.  [to Claudio Bravo] He's being shy, isn't he?"  To which Bravo replies "He doesn't want to take advantage of the great professor we set him up with."  BB replies by shaking his head and thumbs down.  Isla ends by saying "so we're gonna have to talk to Luis Suarez", because the last chilean player in frame bears a slight resemblance to the Uruguayan.

56 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

 

And how did that go down?

Great!  Cursewords & expressions translate poorly, even within the languages [no other spanish speakers use "culiao" besides chileans] so no one of course took offense to this or took it personally.  He doesnt know what he is saying.  It's like teaching a child to curse.  It's the innocence that makes it cute, funny, and endearing.  He is not learning Spanish, he is learning Chilean and there is a HUGE difference. 

Chileans value that he is cursing in chilean.  Curse words and chilean slang will aide Ben Diez in bonding further with his team mates & endears him even further to a chilean public that already loves him.

Chileans are hoping Ben Brereton stays away from the likes of Arturo Vidal and Vargas ("the rotten apples"), and from what you can see on social media, he is.  He is seen socializing with temm captain Claudio Bravo (played at Manchester Shitty), and especially Mauricio Isla (played at QPR with Vargas) who along with Alexis Sanchez (out with injury) all speak some Tarzan-version of English.  BB seems in good spirits and is learning plenty of chilean curse words with his new mates.  Along with Aranguiz, these are the "good apples" of the team.

It appears to be following the 1-1 draw against Uruguay earlier that day.  In it, Mauricio Isla tells his team mate in spanish "they only want to see him!" and repeatedly tells BB "you number one, Alexis Sanchez finished!  You are number one!  You're Presidente de Chile!"  Later, Claudio Bravo conveys to Isla that social media is requesting Brereton be taught some Chilean curse words.  The video ends with Brereton saying "Hola Chile" and "Chilenos culiaos" (literally "bum fucked chileans" or "fucking chileans!") and Isla exclaiming about BB "...This guy is so lovely!"

Ben10 (Ben Diez, not Ben Ten) seems to be the most common nickname for the Anglo-Chilean.

10 hours ago, Ossydave said:

We need to sign Vargas to partner him up top next season. Despite the obvious language barrier they seem to be building a good understanding. Instead we'll have Sam bumbling about like a semi tranquilized pony.

 

Vargas has always been an underperforming club player.  He is what's known as a "cup player": he's good in tournaments and short spurts.  There are players out there who for X reason never quite perform well for clubs  and seem to wind up at a different team every year, and yet somehow over perform for the national team.  Vargas is one such player.  He is highest scoring active player in the Copa America with 14 goals (tied for 5th all time Copa America leading scorer) and the 2nd ALL TIME scorer for Chile with 40 goals (behind Alexis w/46 goals).  He already had an unremarkable stint at Queens Park Rangers in the 2014-15 season, which ended with his injury and QPR relegated.  I would not wish him upon Rovers.  He is undisciplined party animal (involved, as usual, in the latest internal chilean alcohol-fuled barber scandal with fellow trouble-maker and drunk Arturo Vidal) and is unreliable for club.  And he's old. 

21 minutes ago, bazza said:

And why has she not spoken Chilean Spanish to her son throughout his life?

It is not uncommon.  There doesnt seem to be a large spanish speaking community where he grew up.  The mom, Andrea Díaz, obviously did not speak spanish to Mr Daddy Brereton, so it would have been natural to only speak English.  This is the way it has always been.

Let's hope Suárez doesnt give BB rabies tonight.

The mayor of Penco, a coastal town in S-Central Chile near Concepción, wants to build a crockery museum in honor of Bréreton Díaz's family.  Apparently BB's maternal great grandfather emigrated to Penco from Madrid in 1927 and revitalized a crockery and cerimics factory which went on to employ over 1800 people.  The factory produced plates which were used throughout Chile in the mid 20th century.   Now the mayor wants to open a museum to highlight the local contributions of the Díaz family in the realm of.....crockery.

15 hours ago, PotterLog said:

 

(Sorry, didnt mean to quote you)

Looks like Bréreton will start vs Uruguay tonight.  10pm UK time i believe.

Chileans have taken to & latched on to BB in large part because the ship that is chilean international football has been steadily sinking into mediocrity since 2015.  Chile failed to qualify for the 2018 WC by the thinnest of margins.  Chile's stars of its so-called "golden generation" no longer shine.  There is no new blood or truly talented young players.  The fillers aiding Alexis Sánchez in attack have sucked.  And along comes this giant piece of stiff English wood.  So Chileans have clung to it as you would to avoid drowning. 

I think chileans have gone off the rails and over inflated BB's potential, which is unfair to him.  They dont know how mediocre he's been in the Championship and have pinned too many of their hopes on this shiney new object but such is the desperation of the chilean fan.  Which is why chile's uruguayan coach Lasarte has attempted to temper expectations and warned fans BB still has a long learning curve in front of him.  

1 hour ago, rigger said:

I thought Ben was OK in the first half, and took his goal well. The second half, although he showed plenty of effort and willingness to run, for me the game seemed to pass him by. This may have been due to lack of communication, leading to few passes, coming his way. I hope that he perseveres and continues to improve, I am sure that the experiance will do him and hopefully the Rovers nothing but good.

Not really BB's fault.  I dont think the game passed him by so much as it passed chile by.  Chile was flat 2nd half & are lucky Bolivians shoot worse than them [credit to the Bolivian keeper for keeping out several sure goals].  His team mates were criticized BY ALL for not including him enough.

This is a bit embarassing.  Some people are taking their new Breretonmanía too far:

'Breretonismo' - Chile fans create religious cult in honour of Blackburn Rovers ace Ben Brereton

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/football-news/blackburn-rovers-brereton-chile-breretonismo-20857253

22 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

I trust Waggott has got on a plane to Chile to sell Rovers shirts and overseas iFollow passes to all these new fans.

I am actually being serious.

Countries like Argentina & especially Brazil have players in almost every league everywhere on earth.  That is not the case for smaller countries.  Chileans love teams where chileans play and will follow them & buy their shirts  At least so long as they continue playing there.

There was a ton of support for Arsenal when Malexis played there.  More than one chilean continues to support them becauae of his stint there.  Not so much Man U but let's not talk about that.....Something similar for Leeds United because of Marcelo Bielsa who transformed Chilean football when he coached the national team back in '07-'11. All Leeds games are broadcast in Chile & Bielsa's native Argentina and Leeds have now developed a strong South American following, at least among Bielsistas.

I can tell you chileans will now follow & cheer for Rovers because of BB.  I am proof of that.  They will want to buy merch.  If Rovers dont have a Spanish-language marketing person they may want to hire a few.

Chilean humor.  

Shell of your mother= Concha de tu madre (you mother's c*nt).  It's a common expletive, like yelling "f*ck!".  And since Brereton can't speak Spanish, he'd have to yell it in English....

4 hours ago, perthblue02 said:

 

1 minute ago, perthblue02 said:

It has been missing a bit of the South American "passion" in the tournament so far :)

Because of the pre-kickoff chaos invokving cohosts Colombia & Argentina and the last- minute shady transfer of the Cup to covid-riddled Brazil, most players, coaches, staff & teams did not have their hearts in this tournent.  If it was up to the players & many fans, this tournament would have been cancelled.  

Just now, mr bishi said:

Spanish twitter seems to be very impressed with his workrate and willingness to see the ball.

 

This is a shite Chile team though. Nothing like the teams of the recent past.

I wont dispute that this chile team is struggling.  However, i can tell you that BB in his present form would also have made either the 2010 or 2014 chilean team or the 2015 or 2016 Copa América winning teams.  He is not a bad player and those decent Chile teams didnt have a deep bench and was always missing a central striker.  

3 minutes ago, Darrenbot said:

Still running right until he was subbed,i think he did enough tonight to start again in the next match.

Next match Monday, same time, vs Uruguay.  Should be a great, tight match.  Uruguayans & Chileans kick the shit out of each other.

Chile's uruguayan coach Martín Lasarte reminded the press yesterday to tone down the high expectations fans have suddenly heaved upon BB, reminding everyone he will need some time to adjust.  Not only does he not speak the language, he needs to get to know his team mates and chile's playing style.  Half the chilean team has been playing together for 14+yrs.  Unlike The Mandalorian [Pedro Pascal, US chilean] BB has not cultivated ties to chile and is culturally and footballistically 100% english.  We shouldnt expect immediate success.  He will have a learning curve.

Hello.  I'm new here.  i'm a chilean from the US who has been following your boy Benjamín Bréreton recently.  he has generated a lot of buzz in chile, which from reading this thread comes as a surprise for many BRFC fans .  having nationalized players or players with only tenuous cultural ties (beyond any bureaucratic citizinship rights) is not unknown for many national teams and chile is not alone in this (there was a half chilean half swede bench warmer during the last cycle).  he does not speak a word of spanish and the only spanish song he knows is "feliz navidad" (and probably not very well).  that said, welcome to chile, ben!

chile does not have many promising young players so as some have suspected, the recruitment of BB is a bit of chile scraping the bottom of the barrel.   i am optimistic that he weill do well on the team.  Chileans are not tall and BB is a giant among dwarves (i am 5f 7in, like Alexis or Chile's central defender and former Cardiff man Gary Medel).  He shows promise in playing in the center.  I think he has been mismanaged at Rovers and he will benefit from training with south americans and a different footballing language (and i don't mean english to spanish here).  

Ben Bréreton is slated to start tonight vs Bolivia, immediately following the England-Scotland game.  This is his big chance to make an impression against a covid-depleted Bolivia team, that chile tied 1-1 against at home just 2wks ago.  I hope he does well.