3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

The accounts state that the debt is interest free and has no fixed date for repayment. It does not appear to be secured on any of the remaining assets of the club. There will likely be something in the documents setting up the loan which provide for a period to pass before the creditors can demand repayment. If the debt cannot be repaid then the creditors can apply to have the club put in to administration.

At the moment the club seems to be spending in the region of £15m to £20m a year more than the revenue that is generated. If there is no new owner prepared to buy the club then almost every player will have to be sold and the academy closed down.

You only have to look at Derby to see what happens if an owner decides they have had enough of a loss making club.

Part of me thinks 'Bring it on, let's get it over with'.

14 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

It is loaded on the club, I'm afraid. The most recent published set of accounts - as at 30 June 2021- showed an amount of £130m owed by the club to Venkys London Limited.

Where does this leave the club should Venkys decide that they've had enough and they're off?

1 minute ago, BigUts said:

It isn't loaded on the club though, is it?

I've read stuff to that effect by people that know what they're talking about but it still doesn't seem right. If it is then it might be what is preventing them from leaving as they aren't prepared to write off £200m plus. Meanwhile we continue to exist in a nightmare of stasis and paralysis with seemingly no end.

6 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Venkys leaving is the best game in Town ...

What if they don't take their debt with them? This is the horrendous position we find ourselves in.

21 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Broughton and JDT have been here what, 3 weeks? 

I really do think people are expecting miracles. If we've made no progress in another 3 weeks then I'll get on board with the complaints. Right now it's just far too early to judge.

They're no mugs, they know we need 6+ starting quality transfers.

I tend to  err on the side of optimism but the cold hard facts are that, with outgoing players and loanees returning to their club, there are around 150 or so league appearances from last season out of the door. Not only is that able bodies on the pitch but it's years of experience. We have brought in Ethan Walker. There is 3 weeks or so until the start of the season and only Wigan have been as inactive in the transfer market as Rovers and they are not paying their players on time at the moment. JDT and Gregg Broughton have been pretty quiet and I'm worried that they are not happy and perhaps feel that they have been mislead (just a bad feeling, absolutely no evidence) I'm yet again worried about the club and my prior optimism has evaporated. As ever the club does not communicate leaving the likes of me to fill the void with what is front of me which does not appear to be good. It's totally unacceptable and yet totally predictable.

13 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I think its clear nothing is happening on the transfer front to be honest.

I can't imagine that the new Coach, his staff and the DOF will be at the club for long if that is the case.

33 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

My favorite part of the article is this...

Based on what?!

Based on Sheff U getting into the Play Offs last season and QPR being from West London.

15 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:

My recollection is that an extended contract protects the investment rather than compounding it. 

One man's recollection is another man's hindsight

7 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

You are or appear to absolving the players part in contract negotiations, the club can do loads but if the player declines then that’s it !

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1 minute ago, ben_the_beast said:

Nonsense. Last summer that was not the mass mindset. It was that he was looking like a useful player. 

From my recollection there were a few sage posters that recognised some green shoots of what was to come from BBD. Most of us were expressing regret that we had spunked 7 mill and would not have been particularly well disposed to the club compounding the error with an extended (and likely improved) contract.

7 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Would it?

There may have been debate over it and his role in the team but if the Club and those running it genuinely had faith in him and his abilities (they will claim now that they always knew he'd turn out good) then they would have dealt with the contract situation.

Obviously they misplaced the club Crystal Ball. Oh well.

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

You are right but when he proved the majority of us wrong by January new contract negotiations should have been the absolute priority.

Chaddy mentions that the club did that to no avail. It's a regrettable situation but I don't think Rovers are alone in this as clubs were reluctant to commit to long term contacts during Covid. I read somewhere that Bayern were going to lose a player they wanted to keep because of this very situation (I can't remember who it was) Hopefully, we can get a fee of circa £20m and the owners let Tomasson and Broughton test their mettle with the proceeds.

1 minute ago, RoversClitheroe said:

The main worry Gordon is that he becomes the dud again? 

How many goals did he score 2nd half of the season? 

Best we cash in on that bidding war involving English and Continental clubs then. To be fair to him though he had an injury and International absences post Christmas and he finished the season fairly strongly.

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

So? Who gives a feck what ‘roverboy82’ and his pals thinks about anything?

It’s for the club to ignore noise from message boards and the like and to protect its assets.

And I don’t think that’s even true, SG renewed his deal and there was just a collective shrug, no minds being particularly lost.

Most people (me included) had written BBD off as a dud this time last year. The overwhelming view on here, should he have been offered a new contract a year ago, would have likely been that it was further evidence of the club's disfunction. To now slate the club with the benefit of 12 months hindsight is prime wishing to have your cake and eat it.

59 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The time for sorting Brereton out was 12 months+ ago. 

Once again Waggott and his paymasters have missed the boat. They've tried being clever and saving a few quid, and it has now put us in a very weak and risky position. 

Ineptitude doesn't quite cover it. An absolute sh1t show 3 years in the making neglecting contracts and trying to corner cut.

£10 million down the drain this summer already and more to come when we are forced to shift Brereton for a knock down fee.

This forum would have lost it's mind if the club had extended BBD's contract 12 months ago.

3 hours ago, 47er said:

There would have been initial dismay. However the real reaction would have depended on who we signed as replacements.

For "initial dismay" read 'meltdown of incessant, depressing doom mongering unless or until a multi million replacement(s) was brought in'. (Who would then likely be slagged off)

6 minutes ago, TruRover said:

According to Sharpe the interest in Ahmedhodzic is genuine with a loan to buy looking most likely. He has 2 years left on his deal. 
 

IMO this would be an incredible start to our summer business and would leave me very comfortable with our CB options for next season with Ahmedhodzic, Wharton, Carter, Ayala and Phillips fighting for 2 starting positions. 

This and the Malmo striker are the most interesting links for me so far. No prancing ponies, battle hardened players still young enough to have drive and ambition.

1 minute ago, 47er said:

Yes.

If we can get West Ham, Sevilla and another club in a bidding war then we might just get £20m which still represents fairly astute bit of business even with the sell on clause.

32 minutes ago, pomster said:

Not as i’m aware of? It wad a outright buy

Hope you're correct. I seem to remember reading something to that effect but I am reaching the Werthers Originals stage.

1 minute ago, Tom said:

I’d cash in on Brereton, lovely lad and was a joy to watch him succeed last season but I’m not convinced he will replicate that year on year

If we can get £20m and IF JDT gets that cash I think it’s time to sell 

Am I correct in thinking that Forest are due a cut of any transfer fee?

I was a big fan of Kevin Moran (wasn't everybody?) and I thought Frank Stapleton was ok for us too. For me the best Irishman we had must be Damien Duff. No stepovers or pirouettes, just fantastic close control, great balance and an ability to accelerate past and away from opponents. He could finish too. Fantastic player. 

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So they sell their best Keeper and see their three best CBs walk out of the club... 

They were never formidable in the first place - Dyche ground out wins. Kompany has a massive job on his hands.

Kompany is a gamble but they have adequate Championship quality cover for Pope and they are apparently getting Harwood-Bellis on loan as well as bidding for a Centre Back from Oxford. They appear to have already been active in the transfer market for the likes of Twine who I think will be out of JDT's reach.

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

As I said a month ago, it Burnley went down to the championship they will get relegated soon after to league 1.

I don't think I'm wrong in my assumption 

I wish I could agree but I think Burnley are going to have a massive War Chest available to them. Unless someone can tell me otherwise, the loan payment will be met by next season's Parachute Payment and the sale of Cornet if a club, as seems likely, meets the release clause. They are in the process of selling Pope and Collins with Brownhill and O'Neill likely to go too. That should get them North of £40m. They have a ready made keeper replacement, two strikers in Vydra and Rodriguez that have scored goals at Championship level and a much reduced wage bill. This, along with season ticket sales, sponsorship etc means, for me, that they are going to be a formidable force next season. JDT might prove himself a better coach but I'm pretty sure he will be below Kompany next May.

1 hour ago, TheRevAshton said:

In order to sign Van Hecke the deal would have to include BBD, too expensive otherwise.

If Brighton are still interested as they were earlier in the year, surely JP and a bit of money would tempt them. Personally i'd be pushing for this as a priority, Diaz for JPVH and £10m.

Then do what it takes to sign Botheim up, that's how you potentially replace Ben's goals.

Dream scenario... but not entirely out of the realms of possibility.

JvPH has to want to come, which is unlikely if (as he should) he has designs on a breakthrough into the Brighton team. Likewise, Brighton will know, via their Ben White experience, that it pays to hang on to promising young players that have impressed on loan. I'd absolutely love to be wrong but I think we should aim at more realistic targets.

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

Seems like they’ve got a box at every club in the North West! 

Yes, I doubt that they're Rovers fans but surely we get a bit of extra consideration as their company is headquartered in Blackburn?