Agree with Le Chuck.

Jet`s album was very dissapointing, only a few good tracks on there, which I could listen to for a long time.

But my favoruite album that I have bought in the last couple of months, is Franz Ferdinand`s.

I have to agree with both you an Le Chuck to a point. I didn't hate the album, I just think that the Jet album sounds so deriative. I know it's OK to show people your music influences, but copying them is a different story.

currently listening to ryan adams esp the song so alive wich is just class.

P.s. can some one help me ryan adams released a song last year wich was a good un but for the life of me i cant think of it do ant of you lot know what it is

Summer of '69 ?

Oh please never yell that out at one of his concerts, Ryan likely to jump into the crowd and try to belt you  

Laurence picks up Denver Bronco with padding and helmet removed

I'm not surprised that Dallalighio was a bit confused, someone did tell him that the cup was small, had two arms and was Gold in colour?

However the after event hipe is now distracting from the success. Yesterday Sky ran a poll asking whether Rugby could become more popular than football. Around 60% said yes.

Alan, the same thing is happening here.

There's talk from the ARU (Rugby Union's Governing Body in Australia), that they will get more people in the non Union states (like Victoria, South Aust and West Aust), to watch and play the game. I can't speak for people in those states, but it wont happen. As much as Rugby Union is an international sport (of course at a minor level compared to Football), Union does not have the same tribalism that in Aussie Rules.

As for the classic Union V League battle (ongoing since 1907), Union will not convert totally the people who watch League. A League supporter would watch only a couple of games of Union a year (only when the Wallabies play), but would never go see a Union game at club level. As a League fan I would never swap watching Souths play at the Sydney Football Stadium with watching Randwick play at Coogee Oval. To start with, I don't have the right school tie.  

Will more kids play Union? Maybe, but I doubt it. Football is a relatively safe sport (injury-wise), compared to Union and family wouldn't want little Johnny breaking their collar-bones or getting an even worse injury.

For the information of the World Cup losers:

It's called a dropped goal, not a field goal.

Of excuse me oh wise one, I used the Rugby League phrase instead of the Rugby Union one.

Sorry to disappoint you but they're called drop goals in rugby league.

Jim, the term field goal is also correct, the commentators on BSkyB were calling it that when they were mentioning the second test of the Great Britian V Australia Rugby League series.

For the information of the World Cup losers:

It's called a dropped goal, not a field goal.

Of excuse me oh wise one, I used the Rugby League phrase instead of the Rugby Union one.

Anyone seen Sydney Rovers?  

I'm here, just took me a while to extract my foot from my mouth.

I wasn't the prettiest game ever, but it was one of the most tense games I've seen and the final score reflected the tight nature of the game.

In the end the better team won, the moment Australia went behind on the scoreboard, it was going to take an almighty comeback to win the game. I know towards the end of extra time that every Aussie fans was fearing that Jonny would launch a field goal, thus breaking Australian hearts.

Also Jonny's field goal gave most Aussie fans a flashback to World Cup '95, when Rob Andrews did the same thing to bundle Australia out of the quarter-finals.

As for the Aussie press, they've given England the credit that they rightly deserve, although stuff like this has slipped through.

Of course I assume that the English paper will show the kind of restraint that they are so renowned for, wont they?

BTW, thanks Blueboy for that email that kindly reminded me of the result.  

England win vs Aussies (in Sydney)

Rovers win vs Man Utd (in Manchester)

What a day that would be!

KEEP DREAMING AND PRAYING

I kind of like this scenario more,

Australia beat England in Sydney

Rovers beat ManUre at Old Trafford

Australia beat Great Britain at Huddersfield

Basically a great day for the good guys  

But Tris, the Wallabies actually crossed the try line, something the guys in white couldn't do and in fact didn't look like doing. They'd rather let little Johnny get some kicking practise instead.

What's the problem? We didn't score a try, you can't kick it. Am I missing something. You wanna rewrite the rules?

Well den, I think that the IRB should change the point's structure for penalties and field goals. It has been done before, a few years ago the IRB changed the points awarded for a try from 4 to 5 in a hope that the game would open up a bit, and not end up being a penalty and field goal kick-a-thon (which at the time was happening).

The rule worked at first, but in the last few years, people would rather take the 3 points instead of going for a try.

RR, your point about a Penalty in football does not equate fully with a penalty in Rugby, in that it has to be an infringement in a restricted area to get a "one on one".

In rugby the shot ffor goal can be from anywhere that a team feels they can score, be it 5 yards or 55 yards. Furthermore, the infringement in rugby rest more on the refs opinion (in that it is not as clear cut as in football)

Having said that, if you read my post elsewhere, you'll find that, at one stage in the evolution of Rugby, the kick for goal was far more important than the try.

That's right Dave, also another thing is that a goal in football is always 1 points, no matter where and how it was scored.

Maybe another analogy would be, if a goal in football, in general play was 3 points and a goal from the spot is 1 point. As a goal in general play is always hard, some canny manager would probably start playing route one football, hoof the ball down the field and hope that one of the strikers would be fouled and take a shot from the spot, getting an easy one point. Now just imagine you're at a game like this, it doesn't look very good does it? Let's not talk about the amount of diving in the box that would happen.

It would probably like watching how Wimbledon played druring the 80's. Of course this football scenario is totally hypothetical.

William Ellis had the foresight to pick the ball up and run with it. Why are England regressing the game? - Stuart Faulkner

ha ha ha !!!!

what a stupid signature !  

have you forgotten how you rock breakers "won" last time out  

not that I watched the rubbish - just pointing out the obvious

But Tris, the Wallabies actually crossed the try line, something the guys in white couldn't do and in fact didn't look like doing. They'd rather let little Johnny get some kicking practise instead.

Here's a quote for you:

Great opportunity for the Sydney Swans (Sydney's Aussie Rules team), to sign new members this week. The Swans colours are right and the English fans obviously enjoy a game where the object is to get it down your end of the field and kick it between the goalposts.

Hey, it didn't help Beckham during a certain game earlier this year did it?  

I agree about "The Beach", brilliant book,terrible movie. I read it while I was in Europe 3 years ago and it made a change from the other stuff I was reading at the time like "1984" and "Clockwork Orange".

If you want to read something that will get you laughing, you can't go past "The Wrong Way Home" by Peter Moore. This is one of those books that I never get sick of reading.

Don't fret people, it's only a 1-0 away lose. If the game was anything like this quote from The Guardian:

".....Andy Cole came on for Egil Ostenstad at the start of the second half and Blackburn continued where they left off, pushing the ball around neatly and generally frustrating Celtic.

It meant that by and large the home team had to rely on mistakes to pose any real threat and one such moment occurred after 49 minutes when Garry Flitcroft's poor defensive header from an Agathe cross fell nicely for Chris Sutton. But the striker's shot was weak and easy for Friedel..... " we have really nothing to worry about.

Teams have come back from this position before (Australia vs Uruguay comes to mind). I knew after that game (when Australia lead 1-0 at home), that one goal wouldn't be enough and I think that Celtic's lead wont be enough.

And Zippy, before you say anything about media bias , your local papers aren't painting a rosy picture about this win either.

According to the Lancashire Evening Telegraph, Tugay is set to sign an extension to his contract for one more season by the end of this week.

Rovers have exercised an option to keep Tugay for an extra year, after attracting attention from a number of clubs after his stellar performances for Turkey at the World Cup.

With this news and Tugay impeding retirement from international football after the Euro 2004 qualifier against England next years, means that he’ll be focusing all his energy towards Rovers.

So we’ll be seeing Tugay’s crisp passing for at least another season.