Agree with a lot but take exception to this: Love Is Noise wasn't a great song but was decent enough, and to say The Verve didn't write more than two good songs shows the author is utterly ignorant and probably hasn't even heard the whole of Urban Hymns, let alone the two arguably better albums with preceded it.

Surely I wasn't the only one who thought along these lines...

There's all sorts of influences on there, I love the way you have the NERD/Prince-esque Golden Age followed by the gorgeous Family Tree which sounds like its influenced a little by The Beach Boys.

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Favourite album of the year? Dear Science by TV on the Radio probably gets my vote.

Ecstasy certainly shouldn't be class A.

Yeah the version of Hallelujah on there is brilliant but is probably only middling in context of how good the album is. Lover You Should Have Come on Over is probably my favourite one from that album just about.

I posted my top 40 a couple of pages back but here's the top 5: 1. Radiohead @ MEN Arena, Manchester 2003 2. Arcade Fire @ Leadmill, Sheffield 2005 3. Muse, Glastonbury 2004 4. My Bloody Valentine, Roundhouse, London 2008 5. Daft Punk, O2 Wireless Festival, Harewood House, Leeds 2007

God we were rubbish today. Hoofing the ball upto the front man, lacking imagination, no sign of any goals. Guess some of us were wrong after all...

That's a compliment coming from you. Cheers. It's hard not to be condescending to anyone who thinks relegation would be better for this club than having Sam keep us up, but then I would expect you to side with the idiotic and illogical.

I don't give a toss how many games you go to. I'll insinuate what I want - there's most people quite rightly saying relegation would be a disaster for us, some even saying we might go bust - yet you, the wisest man on the board thinks it might be better for us to go down than stay up, so long as we don't have Sam in charge. I slated him before, he was a rival clubs manager and the likes of Henk ten Cate wouldve been better in the summer, but now we're in a relegation struggle he's the best man for the job. When we went down we were still a reasonably big club, we could attract talent much better than we could now. Now a good deal of the Championship will have better crowds and more money than us. And if you honestly think the likes of Treacy and Olsson compare to Damien Duff and David Dunn you're seriously deluded. Even in the season we went down they were good enough to show their class.

I slated Sam, I was wrong too. I mean he wasn't the best choice for us in the summer (Laudrup and HTC were), but we should have instantly have seen he was a better choice than Ince. But now he is the perfect man for the job.

We had lots more money then. The other teams had far, far less money. We had bright young players in Duff and Dunn, players who were good even the season we went down but weren't going to leave as they'd been brought through the ranks. Now anyone remotely good is going to want to leave. You know squat all about football, now naff off to Turf Moor because we sure as hell don't need fans like you.

Pathetic. And you have the gall to call others "so called supporters".

Think their newest album is their poorest effort. Don't blame them for moving into stadium rock and there's a few great numbers on there - Sex on Fire is a great tune no matter how much it gets played. But yeah I still long for their old days of Red Morning Light and The Bucket. Oh well. Anyone else getting really excited about Blur's reunion? Gonna get tickets to my 4th Glastonbury sometime in the next couple of weeks, heard they're headlining the Sunday...closing the festival with "This is a Low" would be an amazing way to end it. Does anyone on here remember the gig they played at King George's (minus Coxon) back in autumn '03?

You're pathetic. There's no other words for it.

You told us there was no way that JW would sack Ince before summer. Then you told us there was no way Sam would join Rovers. Are your posts worth anything more than mentally deficient ramblings punctuated by the kit smiley?

Saw the new Bond a couple of weeks back, it's pretty average stuff. A load of action scenes tacked together with a weak storyline which moves far too quick. Not a patch on Casino Royale IMO.

That's an even bigger insult! I think it's a bit disappointing compared to their previous efforts...

It was "Your all time top 40 gigs"...I went to my first gig in 2002 since I'm in my early/mid twenties now...

Not really a Killers fan but that was a top gig, it was in the New Bands tent just when they were starting out, caught them at the next Glastonbury on the Pyramid and they were much worse. Zutons are a really good live band and were perfect for that atmosphere. Not a fan of Animal Collective from what I've heard on record, I would say each to their own but there's a lot of unconventional stuff I enjoy but maybe they're much better live.

The only other forum I post on is a music one and they had a thread where we all posted our top 40 gigs of all time. Since I had an hour or so to kill, I thought I'd make the list. Would be interesting to see other people's and/or whether they were at any of these... 1. Radiohead @ MEN Arena, Manchester 2003 2. Arcade Fire @ Leadmill, Sheffield 2005 3. Muse, Glastonbury 2004 4. My Bloody Valentine, Roundhouse, London 2008 5. Daft Punk, O2 Wireless Festival, Harewood House, Leeds 2007 6. Oasis, Elephant and Castle Coronet, London 2005 7. Primal Scream, Glastonbury 2005 8. The Verve, Blackpool Empress Ballroom 2007 9. Go! Team, Manchester Ritz 2007 10. Morrissey, Bridlington Spa, Bridlington 2004 11. Blur, King George's Hall, Blackburn 2003 12. LCD Soundsystem, Manchester Academy 1, 2007 13. Bloc Party, Sheffield Leadmill, 2005 14. British Sea Power, Leeds Met 2005 15. Justice, Manchester Academy 1, 2008 16. Ash, Leeds University Union, 2004 17. Brian Wilson, Glastonbury 2005 18. Sigur Ros, Manchester Apollo 2006 19. Supergrass, Leeds University Union 2004 20. Love and Arthur Lee, Glastonbury 2004 21. Franz Ferdinand, Glastonbury 2004 22. The Music, Leeds Cockpit 2, 2007 23. Killers/Futureheads/Bloc Party/Kaiser Chiefs, NME Tour, Leeds University Union 2005 24. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club/Brian Jonestown Massacre, Leeds Cockpit 2005 25. CSS, Leeds Cockpit 2006 26. The Strokes, Hull Town Hall, 2006 27. Chemical Brothers, Glastonbury 2007 28. Art Brut, Leeds Cockpit 2007 29. Ian Brown, Glastonbury 2005 30. Super Furry Animals, Glastonbury 2007 31. James Brown, Glastonbury 2004 32. Klaxons/CSS/Sunshine Underground/New Young Pony Club, Leeds Met 2007 33. Doves, Glastonbury 2005 34. Maximo Park, Glastonbury 2007 35. Howling Bells, Leeds Cockpit 2006 36. Interpol, Blackpool Empress Ballroom 2007 37. The Coral, Leeds University Union 2006 38. MGMT, Manchester Academy 2 2008 39. The Killers, Glastonbury 2004 40. The Zutons, Glastonbury 2005

The Love Guru is coming out this weekend in the UK, the trailers make it look like its literally the worst movie ever made. I'd be tempted to see it out of sheer curiosity for how bad it actually got (after a few drinks obviously) if I wasn't leaving the country this weekend.

As I said, lucky chancers don't get identified as worthy to go on government funded trips to read out their poetry at the age of sixteen. The fact he's a brilliant lyricist (as was shown before anyone even knew who he was) and can construct at least a good tune represents a considerable talent, even when you look at it objectively. If you use record sales to justify talent then that's a very, very flawed argument. People can be very talented and yet throw it away during their careers no matter whether theyre a musician, a footballer or anything else, which is what Pete looks like doing. But at least he's starred on one more excellent album than most of his peers. Being a great lyricist is half of being a great songwriter, considering theyre the main two components. And much of his best work is musically very good too, although this is harder to really argue over.

Yep, the fact he won a national poetry competition and went on a British Council funded trip to Russia to read out his poems at the age of 16 is definitely proof the guys got absolutely no talent whatsoever. Clearly he can't write. If you actually bothered to give the music a proper listen and stopped focusing on his bad habits you'll see they've made some excellent tunes. I'm no Pete apologist - the man's a fool and since Up the Bracket his output has been patchy at best. But credit where credit's due, if you're saying the mans not at least very talented then you're simply wrong. SFA are an excellent band and beat seven shades of crap out of Babyshambles live when I saw both at Glastonbury last year though, they definitely need more recognition.