36 minutes ago, JBiz said:

Just throwing money at something isn’t looking after it. Especially if you’re simply adding another 10000 shares.

We where rudderless after Williams left, and Waggott is like trying turn the Titanic with a teaspoon.

I can understand fans frustrations about the current situation but I agree that Mowbray and Waggott are just the tip of the iceberg. They’re the wrong people for the job and should have been moved on months ago but it’s the decision making (or lack of) above them that is the fundamental issue. 

As mentioned, the club are in an awful financial predicament and there is no good solution. The same fans who are quick to point out the mess we’re in also  seem to be complaining at the lack of transfer funds or demanding that we throw more money at the players out of contract. We’ve got to draw a line somewhere and cut our cloth accordingly, even if it means Joe Rothwell leaves on a free next season.

Remain unconvinced by both Dolan and Chapman at this level. Hopefully this guy will give us an x-factor. A relatively low priority position so he needs to be the first signing of many.

28 minutes ago, EgyptianPete said:

Was Mowbray actually after him, he said last week he hadn't spoken to the player, so utter BS again from Mowbray, agree a deal two weeks ago and dont speak to the player when a transfer is agreed, the guy is getting worse than the liar Kean, and that takes some doing.

So you’d prefer Mowbray to explain our transfer strategy in every interview? Of course he’s not going to state exactly where the deals are at. Also, the clubs can agree a fee but if the player doesn’t want to discuss terms with us, what are we meant to do. Be reasonable.

20 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Absolutely pathetic from Mowbray.

Knee-jerk and unnecessary. This was always the likely outcome. Mowbray didn’t get the chance to speak to him so how is this his fault? 

12 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

You could argue too that those four are our most valuable assets (apart from perhaps Kaminski - who himself only has a year longer left than them - and Travis). Insane how we find ourselves in this position. If we thought we were thread bare this year, wait until 2022-23!

I’m not sure what the club can do. The players are refusing to sign new contracts (for a while now it would appear) and we’re not willing to break our wage structure. We’re haemorrhaging money so it’s understandable that a structure is in place. If the players are demanding huge salaries then the club are in an impossible position.

2 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

No it's not.  I said it last year before he was sent out. Hindsight is after the event 

Saying we weren’t close to promotion is looking back after the event.

Up until the collapse of form in February, promotion wasn’t off the cards.

Either way, I don’t think Chapman would have made much difference and he certainly benefited from the loan spell.

18 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Yeah, I think we could have used him last season.  Not like we were banging on the promotion door eh?

But that’s in hindsight. You’re not picking Chapman ahead of Elliott. He would have got minimal game time here. The loan went well and hopefully he can now contribute. He’s had chances before and not taken them so I don’t think we missed out last year at all.

8 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:

I see what you did there....give it 5 games.

Although I am a big Chapman fan and always have been since he was farmed out unfairly last season.

Farmed out unfairly? Done nothing to suggest that he’d make an impact in the championship before his loan last season. Unconvinced that he’ll do much this season either although last night was more promising.

27 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

7 points away from relegation. Taking nothing away from the effort the team are putting in - we have beaten 2 average teams, and got out of jail with our only shot on target in the other. 

Having said that, confidence is a huge thing in football - just need a bit of luck at the weekend.

 If we beat all the average teams, what does that make us..?

Great result. Travis, Carter and Ayala were very impressive. Buckley was everywhere and tidy in possession. Unconvinced by Dolan but he serves a purpose. As some have said, limited options seems to be working for us. We don’t have enough quality in the final third yet but there’s a grit about this team that we haven’t seen in a while. Important to get some set piece goals as well.

Cant fault this start, best in years. No expectations for WBA but this has been surprisingly positive. Let’s see how long it can last.

34 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Surely it is the only way to actually build for the future with a lower cost base.

Instead bringing in loads of short term fixes and prioritizing them and their appearances is counter productive.  Finish 12 th, go around in circles every season wasting a few million in loan fees.

When you get lads like Elliot as good as they are you end up building your team to suit them. They prosper and move on and you have to start again.

This season should be about utilizing that 12 million quid strike force and our own assets. They need some help but they should be the priority not some kid from Liverpool or City.

But that’s reliant on there being very few injuries and other than maybe 3/4, how many of our u23s are ready for first team football? If we got relegated by playing the kids every week I can guarantee that fans would be demanding why we hadn’t brought in more quality, even if it’s via loans.

Don’t mind this. Buckley still goes missing too often and Rothwell rarely puts a run of decent games together. More competition can’t be a bad thing.

6 minutes ago, 47er said:

Some City fans were reported as being astonished when we signed Davenport from them on a permanent deal. I've learned to be cautious  about transfer bullshit.

When did we last sign a player who his club wanted and tried to keep. Savage?

Pickering?

Really disappointed about the lack of match replays or extended highlights. They clearly edit the footage as they release clips on the club’s Twitter account. I only tend to watch interviews with new signings (ha!) so genuinely starting to question what I’m getting out of this.

Definite downgrade so far on iFollow. If there’s a legit reason for not being able to share the highlights, fine, tell us.

Also, why do they have a dedicated section on the website for ‘match highlights’ if all they’re going to stock is pre-season friendly footage???

7 minutes ago, rigger said:

But we are not in a financial position to take a risk on an injury prone player, who may or may not turn out to be a decent signing. It doesn't matter how good someone looks on You Tube clips. 

Given this is a loan, I am assuming our financial outlay will be minimal. 

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very good finish from him yesterday. 

who says he can't score in one on one situation

He can. But often he doesn’t. The truth about last year is that with missed one on ones and penalties, he should have scored 35/36.

13 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

 Nyambe, Bell, Lenihan, Gallagher, Brereton, Rothwell.  I'd argue that none of those have  improved under Mowbray.

Id suggest that Nyambe, Lenihan and Brereton have. Travis, Dack and Armstrong would be others.

Lots of jumping to conclusions. I thought there were fans who wanted the money to be spent elsewhere anyway?

Im not surprised if he has turned us down given it’s a step down from the PL. But given he’s an unproven crock with a bad attitude, I’m sure most on here will be pleased…

Aware that the same fans adamant that no replacements would be brought in following Armstrong’s sale are now trying to find ways to criticise the £6m rated striker we’re trying to sign. Pick a lane.

11 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Lenihan might be looking to test his luck in the PL or for a promotion chasing Championship side. Nyambe has been mis-managed, same as Rothwell.

Rothwell has had his chances. Not playing well enough isn’t mis-management. He’s been too inconsistent throughout his time here. For an attacking midfielder, his stats are below average and he has played in his preferred position often enough.

8 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

The reality is that Rovers had very few cards to play because they have a fucking idiot at the helm!

 

Good luck to Armstrong, lets hope he does well. If he doesnt bomb he can always come back on loan !

The idiot at the helm bought Arma for £1.5m and is about to sell him for £15m. 

Of all the things to criticise Mowbray for, this in isolation is not one of them.

Arma has been offered a new deal and understandably hasn’t signed it. Ball was always in his court after last season. At least we’re getting a decent fee.

FWIW I think £15m is probably Arma’s worth. £20m would have been nice but at least we can get it done well before deadline day.

2 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Another loan, embarrassing. When will the Coventrio leave 🙏🏽

Be reasonable, of course it’s not embarrassing. We desperately need bodies and a winger in particular. 

Just want the Arma saga to be over. It needs to be finalised this week to give us a chance to find a replacement. £15m isn’t great but it’s time to move on.

Disappointed that there are no extended highlights from yesterday’s game or full match replay. That was available with iFollow so not sure why it can’t be done now. Swansea’s YouTube has uploaded longer highlights so why can’t we?

Enjoyed that. Great to be back and a good atmosphere. Hard to read where we stand at the end of it but can’t fault the effort or commitment. 

No one really stood out although I thought Ayala was a calming presence. Dolan was charging down everything and it was no surprise that we eventually benefited from it. 

We don’t look clinical and it hurts to see a natural striker in Gallagher marooned on the wing when Dolan is scuffing shots into the keeper’s arms. I’m taking it for what it is and not reading more into it.

Hope more fans gradually come back through the doors because if the team continues to play like that they’ll deserve the support.