Leeds' next game is Man U away.

They've got about as much chance of winning as Middlesbrough.........

It's like the third encore.

You want it to go on for a bit , but you know the end is near.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but it appears Leeds has rejected a 60 mil offer along with another 30 mil to spend on new players because none of the proposed new board would be English.

If that is correct then either:

(1)  the Board is confident that it can stave off Administration or

(2) it doesn't give a flying one about the continuation of the club and it is happy to see it go down the pan.

LD ROVER u were talking about that lad in Fenny and the duck that shat on his kitchen floor, well he's also my mate and he doesnt have much luck when it comes to things using his house as a public lavatory. A few years ago i stayed at his house after a night in town, slept in his spare room woke up to realise i'd wet my self in his bed, i have to say i didnt hang around, i just strategically placed his cat beside the wet patch and left. By the way as i was leaving i noticed a gaggle of geese across from The Hordens. "Morning Geese" i said to which they cackled back at me-GEESE-respect-SWANS-no time for

Your first post as well. Most people like to introduce themselves here in a little more of a (ooooh how should I put this?) "glowing" light.

But you introduce yourself as an incontinent bed-wetter who rats on his mate and a cat. Nice start.

As to the tiger v shark situation. I'd just like to point out that home advantage will play a very crutial part in deciding this.

Both are very much "home form" animals, the shark doesn't much like dry land and the tiger, although it can swim, is very much at a disadvantage in deep salt water.

"Back to you in the studio Des."

"Over to you Big Ron, how do you see the swan v the goose?"

"Well to be honest Des, I think this one will be a bit tasty, but at the end of the day, the goose will win.

It's all psychological.

The goose knows that if it kills a swan it will have The Queen on its back. The swan knows that if it drops the goose, hey it's a special Christmas dinner for the Queen & less c**p in the parks."

"Thanks Ron."

The Hendrix version of 'Little Wing' is brilliant (if indeed it's the same song)

Hendrix wrote it. It's on "Axis: Bold As Love" released in 1967.

Second LP I ever bought (not in 1967, I hasten to add)

(assuming that it is the same track under discussion)

Personally I wouldn't mind:

.......

Mickey Adams

......

All of whom are used to making the best of meagre resources AND doing it without seeming to have person after person slagging them off in the press.

See tomorrow's papers on that one.

Here's a quick summary for the easily bewildered

leedsuniteddonothaveapaddle

The good news is one of the missing millions has re-appeared. Probably found it in the tea caddy.

There could also be a case for keeping a vigil underneath their office windows.

A bit dangerous, what with all them shareholders exiting from the fourth floor window in the time-honoured fashion.

Just pasted this in from

Football365 I hope that's acceptable.

Got to admire this guy's senses of restraint & humour. I'm pretty sure I'd be ranting & frothing if I was in his shoes:

"LEEDS: FROM BAD TO WORSE TO...

Monday January 12 2004

Mark Viduka has gone home, we’ve only one available centre-half for the Southampton game (mind you, how many do you really need against Southampton?) and Alan Smith is a booking away from another ban.

Tumbleweed is blowing around the West Stand, distant coyotes howl from Beeston Hill and you can hardly see the sky for vultures. Oh, and I found this memo while I was going through the Elland Road bins collecting ‘official merchandise’...

"In the event of the termination of the brand ‘Leeds United Football Club’ there will inevitably be confusion and panic among supporters. Calm them with details of swift and decisive re-allocation.

"Season-ticket holders will be allocated depending on length of time they have held their seats, amount of merchandise purchased and tattoos. Those who qualify in the ‘Upper Band’ (Over 20 years' support, Leeds Utd wallpaper, first-born called Billy or ‘Sniffer’) will be allocated a ‘high-end’ club - Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea.

"All supporters designated ‘Middle Band’ should be entered in a ‘prize draw’ featuring mid-table teams - Fulham, Southampton, etc. Low-level supporters should return to the town or city of their birth to be reassigned a team. The sick, lame and weak will be divided between Bradford City and Leeds Tykes Rugby Union."

Yet another terrible week and there's not too long to go before we know whether we’ve been bought or The End is nigh. This is terrifying stuff. Not as terrifying as our continual post-lobotomy-style business sense, however.

According to decent sources, another bit of excellent wheeler-dealering is based around Cyril Chapuis - a striker Reidy took on a year’s loan from Marseille.

Chapuis said last week that Eddie Gray had suggested he wouldn’t be ‘relying on French players'. Cyril decided he would be better off trying to find another club.

Strasbourg came in for him and off he went, guaranteed a bit more first-team stuff. Lovely and heartwarming, and I’m glad wee Cyril is happier and enjoying himself, but for the fact that we are still paying him. No-one has revealed the amount, but we are ‘making a contribution’ to his 700k-a-year wages.

We fiscal genii are effectively paying a bloke who can’t get in our side to go from Marseille to Strasbourg on loan. Maybe we deserve to be wound up. It definitely can’t be allowed to continue.  

There are all sorts of theories about what’s been happening to us and why. Bad business, dressing-room fall-outs, etc. The best I’ve heard recently is that the rot set in when we unveiled ‘Lurpak’ as the sponsors of the East stand. So the first thing opposition players see when jogging out of the tunnel is a giant homage to lard. Hardly ‘This is Anfield’, is it?

More bad news. Georgi Kinkladze is here on a two-week trial. Do we not know what happens to clubs who sign Kinkladze? We might as well ring Dave Bassett now and just take voluntary relegation.

So relegation, administration, winding-up or all three? While we decide what order to take them in, let’s start some forward planning.

If we are going to do a Wimbledon and open the show again somewhere else, can we please stay out of Milton Keynes? Dublin would be lovely, but what about somewhere with a bit more nive weather? South of France is great, I hear. Or Spain. Somewhere like that.  

Wherever we end up (Portugal’s nice) we have to think about what went wrong. ‘Living the Dream’ should never have been about paying outrageous sums for Seth Johnson, Robbie Fowler or tropical goldfish. Living the dream should have been about having a sensible, proper manager, an end to these frightening ‘business deals’ and some committed and well-behaved players.

Even better than that, we actually had the money to live a really great dream - like the one I had about Lisa Tarbuck, a jet-pack and a third tap for lemonade."

Ash are great, been a fan since 1977,

Eh? The members of Ash weren't even born in 1977.

Not thinking of Wishbone Ash perchance?

currently listening to "Doc At The Radar Station" by the good Captain Beefheart.

John Cale's "Hobosapiens" is proving to be a darn good groove.

What other football board can offer such knowledge?

Thanks Philip.

All administration means is that an accountant is sent in to maximise club assets and stop money pi$$ing out of the door. In return, the interests on the debts is frozen.

Once the company comes out of administration hopefully cash management at the club is much better, and the creditors have a chance of getting their dosh back. No debts are written off, that only happens in a bankruptcy I think.

Having said that, whatever stunt Leicester pulled to get out of the cr@p was a good one, because I don't remember any winding-up orders.

I'm sure that if I get this wrong someone will put us all straight:

Invividuals go  bankrupt, limited companies go:

(a) Into administration, sometimes voluntary, where an accountant is appointed, via the courts, to try and get the finances straughtened out. During this time the company should be protected from creditors

or

( Into receivership, usually at the behest of the bank which has decided to make the best of a bad job and squeeze the maximum return out of a loss making company

or  

© into liquidation, where an insolvency practicioner takes over, sells all the assets for cash and distributes the lot to the creditors pro rata to what they are owed. Hence "15p in the pound" The insolvency practicioner always gets paid first.

Creditors are either secured (banks and the tax man) who get priority in the carve up, or unsecured (every one else). It sounds like the USA institutions have got themselves "secured" status. Or something.

Somehow can't imagine Brucey doing 'Im so bored with the USA.'

I don't know about that. I'm not a big Brucie fan but I do beleive thet "Born In The USA" was not quite the homage to the States that a number of people thought it was.

Rather like the Conservative Party conference from a while back playing Lennon's "Imagine" as the opening theme.

"Candy-coated Communism" I think Lennon called it.

Dave Matthews, i'm guessing at least 95% of you are going Who?. He's a South African singer who fronts the Dave Matthews Band, he just released a solo album called Some Devil, it's fantastic.

I'd reccomend it to Colin, seen as he likes Nick Cave.

TY Cornwall.

I'll have a look/listen

[...] tonne of bricks!

tonne ?  tonne ?  T O N N E ! ! ??

I think you mean TON Drog mate, otherwise you'll be speeding in kph before long

And Smithy will have your guts for garters

"Doc at the Radar Station" is (probably) my favourite, though I haven't heard everything yet.

"Trout Mask Replica"

I think I've spent about 20 years trying to get to grips with that one!

Plus that would mean they would have to learn how to use transport other than whippets or ferrets

Are you drunk sir?

Shurely you mean asses, mules, & donkeys?

This week, I have mostly been listening to.....

Captain Beefheart - Safe as Milk, anyone?

A real groundbreaker, if just on the wrong side of insanity for many, but definitely years ahead of it's time.

"Sure 'Nuff 'N Yes I Do"

More of a "Clear Spot" man myself.

"Mr Zoot Horn Rollo hit that long looming note & let it float"

Never mind Rev,

It happens, more time to spend with the family & all that stuff.

Give it a couple of months and you'll wonder why you bothered spending those hours putting down your feelings.

neil young : weld (only NY album i have and need, absolute quality)

I'd suggest "Rust Never Sleeps" before you dismiss Neil Young.

I dug out The Black album by The Damned last week.

According to Dave Vanium it was called "The Black Album" because........oh well, back to the "Cannabis thread"

Speaking of Nick Cave colin, at 11:15 tonight on ITV The Southbank Show has an hour long interview with Mr Cave, should make very good viewing.

Also he releases a dvd tommorrow of a live concert from 2001 called God Is In The House.

Ta Cornwall, I knew about the former, but not the latter. Time to buy a DVD.

Mine in the Daily Telegraph - based work league.

Friedel

Le saux

Rise

Short

Lundekvarm

Dunn

Emerton

Okocha

Sheringham

Henry

Shearer

team name: Bradford Park Drive. For that whiff of whippet, flat cap, and bronchitis.

And as an aside, has anyone else noticed that, although Brad was the highest scoring keeper last season, he has been valued only in tenth place by the DT.

Scandal!

Just thinking "outside the box" (yuk) as they say.

Has it yet been proved that Dr Kelly killed himself?

I disagree. Zack voice was so much more original and grungy than Chris.  Also Zack was a lyric genius and knew how to rock...hard.  

Some of you have real bad taste:

What to listen to:

Mudvayne

System Of A Down

Metallica

Glassjaw

Alkaline Trio

[spunge]

The Libertines

Less Than Jake

none of this 'fiddy cent' crap

Messiah,

It's OK to state your preferred taste in music.

It's a big step to slag off anyone else's.

So take it easy. I'd rather chew off my own kneecaps than listen to Donny Osmond, but Mrs Colin quite enjoys him.

And Mrs Colin's Mum & I will be going to see Nick Cave the next time he shows up around here.

And she likes Julio Englasias.(sp?)

There's plenty of room for all of us, so don't get pigeon-holed.