44 minutes ago, toogs said:

You’ll get those cheap versions from Lidl. 

I m off to Chorley Lidl this morning.  I will buy some for the next meeting - it will be a Fan Takeover 🙄

7 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Not entirely sure what you're on about here. Nobody has mentioned anything about a plane.

Nobody really knows what happened other than Sylvester, shadow man and maggot. None of them are trustworthy and should under no circumstances be believed.

When the same thing happens three times in the space of a year it is not a mistake. Why anyone would take anything said by the people involved in this at face value is beyond me.

Funny how we completed cheap transfers after the McGuire deal was left in the save bin. I would be surprised if you could go back into the portal without it being obvious there was an unfinished transaction in there.

If you want to believe the word of people with a track record of being proven liars when they're in full arse covering mode then fair enough. None of the people who occupy positions of power at Blackburn Rovers are trustworthy.

These deals had all the hallmarks of the owners either not giving the sign off or pulling the pin at the last minute. They've got previous form for doing exactly that.

Enjoy your tea and biscuits next time you go in to listen to more bullshit from the fake CEO.

Thank you for your constructive advice as always, at least it was not the usual abusive tirade.  I am a Hobnob man; I will ask the club to order some in for our next meeting.

11 hours ago, Mike E said:

I removed it myself. While I agree (obviously), I’m not sure it was constructive.

Mike E, if you have any issues with the Trust please raise them with us direct.  You have my mobile number and email address long with Duncan’s and others.

We do get a lot of constructive and positive feedback.  Thanks, Mike

9 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

£60m. -  I hope there's a huge sell on 

It is 15% on any profit.  It may also mean (this is guesswork) that the remaining £12m is paid to Rovers.

In my opinion selling AW was the low point of last season.

9 hours ago, Upside Down said:

I think we all know this is what actually happened. 

Three times in a year.

No.  

Even GB confirmed that while conspiracy theories abound it was an error within the club.

McGuires agent was advised before the player boarded the plane that we were not buying him outright; he was a rookie footballer 6 months out of college.  It was not a last minute change of mind.

42 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

The only people to blame for the current state at Blackburn Rovers are Venkys.

Their ownership has been nothing short of a disaster and continues every day that they are in charge. 

But yes, let's blame the long serving club secretary who was set up to submit a transfer, only to have allegedly have funds pulled at the last minute to be replaced by a hastily put together loan deal. Was it his fault with O'Brien last year too? if so, why wasn't he gone at the end of the 22-23 season? 

Was it also JDT's fault last summer when Rovers signed nobody of note for a fee? Did he rub potential signees the wrong way? No he didn't, the money tap was again, allegedly, turned off by Venkys. 

Pull your head out of the sand and you'll see who the real culprits are. 

If you bothered to read my post rather than jump to conclusions I was informing people what happened rather than apportioning blame.  I don’t do conspiracy theories thank you.

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Playing Devils Advocate then Mike why wasn't the send button pressed when they realised it hadn't been done originally. If the Fleck deal went through just  before the 11 pm deadline on the face of it another deal would surely have gone through too albeit really close to the deadline. From memory the Koumetio deal was done closure the deadline too.

I can’t answer the bit about Billy Koumetio apart from maybe a loan signing is a different process but that is only guessing.

With the McGuire transfer a secretarial member of staff did the inputting with IS checking over her shoulder.

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

I am not blaming the system (other clubs seem to have managed just fine), just think its possible that Silvester maybe couldn't get to grips with it, which would maybe explain that when pressured for time (late deadline day deals) he messed up.

Pure speculation on my part though

The EFL now have a portal system and only one person per club is authorised to use it via a password.

The Club Secretary, IS, informed colleagues at 9pm (a full two hours before the the deadline) that the transfer had been completed; it was only when they completed the transfer of Fleck immediately before 11pm that they realised something was wrong.

Any system of such importance should have a fail safe checking process.  It is called a telephone and someone should have made a follow up call to check all was in order.

There is only one person to blame and he is the guy authorised to access the portal.  He has now left. 

20 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Thank you for confirming what I understood from the time the event occured.

It is to be hoped that the CEO apportions the credit for the award to those who facilitated it.

I will await Waggott's announcement.

From Rovers official website:

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/april/14/rovers-scoop-fan-engagement-award-/

1 minute ago, Mattyblue said:

Get all that Mike, but reading the EFL press release that reads as if it was a pure club initiative (which to be fair isn’t the club’s fault), when in reality if left to the club there would’ve been no initiative at all.

100% correct.  I could not agree with you more.

8 hours ago, rigger said:

Can anyone attend the AGM ?

Yes.  But only members can vote.  AGM paperwork is sent to all members; we are expecting a good turn out so we may decide to use an on-line ticketing platform; there is no charge.

8 hours ago, Mike E said:

I’m afraid I don’t understand why the AGM is held in the Training Centre (a place not readily accessible to anyone travelling), and has the manager as guest speaker.

Comes across as far too pally for my liking.

We chose the venue as we believed it would be attractive.  It was a Board decision to ask for the Manager to speak. 

Newsletter containing the meeting notes between Rovers and ‘WeAre The Rovers’:

https://www.roverstrust.com/news/newsletter-april-2024

52 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

You have a lot of meetings , where can we access the minutes to each meeting please?

What is the next steps in reaction to the document from the Trust?

What is the next steps in general?

We send out an email newsletter most months.  This includes the notes of MoU meetings and Trust Board meetings.

Our next Board meeting is Tuesday next week.

31 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Thanks Mike. I agree with most of your post but I honestly think the highlighted bit is going to be a divisive thing to say. The people to blame for the whole mess Rovers are in are them and I will certainly not give them any credit for what appears to be something that, as owners is obligatory.

I have faith in what you are trying to achieve and wish you well in your end goal but I ask you to please keep comments like that private and then no one can feel aggrieved.

Fair comment Tony.  
 

47 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Mike’s getting grief on Twitter for even publishing it. I imagine Jackson in the LT will get grief too if/when he does a story… feck freedom of information and expression! Protect our overlords!

You can understand how long held freedoms can be quickly taken off folk without much of a murmur.

There has been very little criticism on Twitter apart from someone saying this is old news and they could not understand why it was released now.  It was not released because I am a lackey of the Club (I can assure you I am not) and it was not given to me to leak to deflect attention from the mess on the playing side.  It is purely factual information.

The ‘news’ is available openly and publicly, perhaps no one had spotted it.  The HMRC letter was dated April 2023 and the Court case was July 2023; this must have been a nightmare of a time for those at Ewood trying to balance the books.

I will explain the reason I put this out.  Firstly I believe the fan base should have a better knowledge of the Club’s financial predicament; if it was something told to me in confidence it would not have been released, as I said above it is in a public document.

Secondly the owners, whether fans like it or not, took the applications to the High Court at no doubt great expense.  They secured payments to Rovers and the HMRC, VAT, staff etc have all been paid.  Whether fans like it or not credit should be given to the owners for this.

The role of the Trust is to try and engage as a critical friend with the owners and their representatives whether they be the Venky’s, the Walker family or the Nolan sisters.  We will continue to try our very best to influence on behalf of our members.

We do not have secret meetings with the Club; if I or other Board members meet with the Club then the whole Trust Board are aware. Clearly we may receive confidential information from time to time - this will never be divulged by any Trust Board member.

13 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

So why the 12 ‘o’ clock ‘it’s still digital only’ posting on the club’s website?

No idea.  Sorry.

9 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

How come you were aware? Just curious!

As Supporters Trust Board members we meet with the Club formally and informally on a regular basis.  
The meetings are an excellent opportunity for us to touch base albeit some debate will be confidential and we will never breech that confidentiality.

8 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

So @J*B was right about about the announcement and yet just six hours ago (when they must already have known) the club were still pushing the digital only narrative.

You can be sure that in the next few days SW and FR will be proudly stating what percentage of sales were digital ones.

Duncan and I, on behalf of the Supporters Trust, have quietly been making representations on this on behalf of fans.

We were aware of this yesterday but it was always up to the Club to announce.

In my opinion digital is the way forward but not at the expense of losing fans.  A carrot rather than stick approach was our preference.

To be fair the Club has listened and acted.

8 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/january/04/digital-day-pilot-paused-ahead-of-matchday/
 

Duncan and I were aware of this but it was always up to the Club to announce.

Fair play to the Club for listening and having the balls to act. 

8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Thanks for reply

I can back up Duncan’s comments.

6 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

I worry people on this forum think Waggots doing his best, and that the digital day won't be successful because it's not a big game.

To add.

I have no clue why we need to constantly do fan takeovers, effectively doing Waggots job for free.

Furthermore, what the fuck is the point in this relationship with Waggot that got signed the other month? 

The club's getting worse and worse, where's the pressure to improve the club and push the relationship and get above him to the people who actually own Rovers? 

Work is taking place to get direct dialogue with the owners.  I cannot and will not say anymore.

3 minutes ago, J*B said:

That poor leadership and bad decisions will not be tolerated. I guess you could call it ‘standards’.

We are trying to build an effective relationship with the Club. Walking out achieves absolutely nothing and would kybosh any future Fans Takeover and discussions we have agreed to have on the future structure of Season Ticket pricing.

Further discussion took place on the next ‘Fans Takeover’.  More detail will be announced soon.