15 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

I'm not against it, it should be completely humiliating for them.

It is a good shout actually especially given the narrative of the owners never fail to sign a cheque. 

2 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Did I miss something.... 

https://celtsarehere.com/former-celtic-talent-spotter-set-for-english-move/

It’s probably one of them betting scandal things, a year early.

Check the relegation odds sharp. 

3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

A really positive first week of sales considering the shit show of the last 12 months. It’s 3000 more than the owners/Board deserve. 

 

How many is it now then, bang on the 3,000?

6 hours ago, Blow-in said:

And taking German classes

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2 minutes ago, FE123 said:

Herbie Kane would probably be the best we could hope for, he’s a capable player who looks on the up after a couple of poor years, suspect Barnsley will be miffed as they paid a million plus for him a couple of years ago and are loosing him for nothing

Their loss is our gain hopefully and lets face it, we have had it happen, the other way, often enough.

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I think the club have actually made a real commitment to making it affordable for families. Kids tickets have never been cheaper.

Obviously Preston are seen as the benchmark by a lot of our supporters, but when comparing the two complete offerings you can see that we fare a lot better on seniors, young adults and secondary school age kids.

The three tickets I’ve bought this year would’ve been a tenner cheaper at Preston, so neither here nor there.

There are still some people, who sadly can't afford it.

Just now, Hasta said:

Regardless of who owned the club or in what era this scenario happened, that's how I would expect it to play out.

In days gone by (and I know this as fact) the decision maker at the club, ended up giving someone in almost identical circumstances a free season ticket for him and his kids and an invite to come and have an autograph session with some players.

1 hour ago, pick32 said:

My prediction in January was Wharton goes to the Euros then ends up at Madrid for 80million, so I was pretty close, anyone no if we have a sell on? 

I have read that it is 15% but I am not certain to be honest.

It isn't aimed at anyone in particular this, but for those who have renewed, here is a scenario and I wondered how you would feel.

Income becomes a real issue for some reason and you find yourself unable to afford to renew, but would just about scrape enough together if you could get a £100 reduction.

You E Mail the club and tell them your circumstances and having had a season ticket for 25 years, ask for some sort of compassionate discount, due to your loyalty.

The club E Mail you back and say, tough the price is the price, if we do this for you, we will have to do it for everyone.

How would you feel?

11 minutes ago, TheRevAshton said:

I know right?! The £349 early bird price is still about £100 too expensive, considering the 'product' they're offering.

This is where everyone sticking together and forcing them to drive their prices down, is the only way forward.

Sadly, some people will accept it and renew, come what may. Without wanting to have a real go, the poor people who have 2-3 kids, who have followed Rovers all of their lives, but are now priced out, are the ones that suffer.

2 hours ago, Rogerb said:

Jim Arnold was 29 when he joined from Stafford Rangers. Saw a lad playing for Boston United called Gregory who was way too good for national League north. He is known to Eustace who had him on loan from Shrewsbury when Eustace was at Kidderminster.

That’s right. He was a real find for us. He broke records for clean sheets 2 seasons in a row. Great keeper.

Wasn’t Marshall Burke with us first and signed for them, when he was passed his best?

4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I don't know who any of those people are. 

You missed a treat with little Jonny Price. 

4 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Whilst it might work out (any player can), I really wouldn't be in favour of signing a 25 year old keeper with only League One experience when we are equipped with two keepers of similar age who aren't good enough despite playing higher than that. Right now I want a keeper with Championship or equivalent experience who is a steady pair of hands. Likely to need to be someone of age about 28 upwards.

For those who remember Jim Arnold and where we signed him from, it would certainly be fine if this fella was as good. 

5 hours ago, pentelrobot said:

Apparently, Leeds owe £190m in unpaid transfer fees, a legacy of the previous regime. I suspect they will be selling a lot of players in the close season, but any clubs looking at their "big 4" forwards today might think twice. How on earth did Summerville get player of the year over Sammie?

For the teams that do make the premier league, you would think it’s the end of their money problems, but it often isn’t.

Plenty think if we get there, things will be okay, but would they? 

47 minutes ago, sympatheticclaret said:

 

I haven't been posting much recently .... I only wish it was due our relegation ...

My Dad slipped away " gently into the good night " in the early hours of 21st May, aged 88. He had suffered from advancing vascular dementia in his last few years, but thanks to the love and support of our wonderful mother, was able to stay in his own home until relatively recently.

Dad was brought up on a new Council estate in Aspley, Nottingham, the son of a Boots factory girl who left school at 14, and a Post Office Engineer. His father died on active service when Dad was 7, leaving my Gran to raise two children with the help of her family. Dad passed the 11+, and attended High Pavement G.S. where he became Head of School ( 1953-54 ). He was offered a choral scholarship at Gonville & Cauis College, Cambridge on the condition he obtained Latin " O " Level, then a requirement for the Engineering tripos. He achieved this qualification by correspondence School, in less than 6 months, whilst doing National Service between 1954-56. He was commissioned in the Royal Signals, serving in Egypt & Cyprus and stayed on the " Reserve " until 1968. He went up to Cambridge in 1956, with his £40 pa Scholarship " It wasn't a fortune, but it allowed me to keep Sherry in my rooms ! ", he often said. He would recall conversing with Harold Abrahams, the 1924 Olympic 100m Champion, at a couple of College Dinners, long before light was shed on Abrahams' story with the film " Chariots of Fire ".

On graduating, he married my mother in 1959, whom he'd met at 17 at an inter-school dance in Nottingham. She was by then an SRN at Westminster Hospital. He then spent the next 45 years in manufacturing industry, running and designing new production facilities in primarily printing and glass manufacture. We moved to Clitheroe in 1975 when Dad was head-hunted to run Joseph Arnold & Co, in Church, then the largest printers of Greeting Cards in Europe. In 1996, he suffered a heart attack aged 60, and underwent a six-way bypass in Boston, Mass whilst on holiday, Luckily, they had taken out Travel Insurance. He was also fortunate that the lead surgeon at Deaconess Hospital was the Emeritus Professor of Cardiology at Harvard ! He retired aged 69, following the successful sale of a Glass Company in which he had a stake.

He wasn't a clubable man particularly, preferring time with his family and in his garden. As befitting a former Choral Scholar, music was ever present in our house growing up. He loved his Rugby, Cricket & Athletics and was a life-long fan of Notts County. He's survived by our mother, his wife of 64 years, and his 3 children. He was an adored father-in-law, grandfather of 5, and had 2 great-grand-daughters ...

Goodnight and God bless Dad .... Thank you for everything. 

May your Dad Rest In Peace SC and love and best wishes to all of your family.

Its hard losing a parent. Remember the good times and be very proud, as he has led an extremely fruitful life. 

21 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

That is another good point. Why would they take out expensive loans like this if they were free to send funds from India?

They wouldn't.

Expensive bridging loans are a last resort, when all other options have evaporated.

2 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

I take it he didn't mention the loan taken out with Crossbarron secured against the training ground?

No he failed to mention that and believe it or not, it was on my agenda, to delve into that, but we ran out of time.

32 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

The club have not stated that they can freely send funds from India. Waggott has stated that the adjournment in March did not affect the owners' ability to continue funding the club. This is true because they can use transfer income to fund the club. 

Nothing changed in March because there was no court hearing.  Even if Venky's were allowed to send funds from India, they would need to match the amount with a security deposit to the BOI which would be a big increased burden for them.

I've posted this a few times - there was a telling sentence in the LT back in March: stating that the adjournment had prevented Venky's sending funds that they had hoped would see the club through to the summer. Luckily, the Wharton and Raya cash has acted as a cushion. Without the transfer income we would have been struggling.

 

Spot on and some people are reading this incorrectly and to be fair, I think it was dressed up like this purposely to add some convenient confusion to the issue.

3 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

You’re stating that they can’t send further funds as fact. The club have said they can. How do you know they can’t?

Back in November, I had a meeting with Waggott, prompted by me sending a copy of the article in the Indian press, about the illegal payments made by Venky's to Venkys London Limited. It is reported in the article that the Directorate of enforcement has seized 6 properties, as a result of these illegal payments being made, which as you can imagine, gave me cause for concern about their activity and given the serious nature of the above, their future ability to fund the club.

Waggott explained to me, that the owners could still fund the club, but due to what had happened, they had to go to court to get permission to do so and he had to give the court a breakdown of the liabilities that the funds were for and the exact amounts. He was at pains to say, that given they had done this twice and the funds were allowed to be sent, that the court hearing in February was a formality, as a precedent had been set. He did not say that the owners could freely send any further funds, so the words that came from his mouth stated that permission from the court was required.

Given that the hearing in February was adjourned until March and again until August, unless the court have made an interim ruling to state that the can fund still before the hearing in August then, that must still stand.

I found out after the meeting from a separate  source that a bond had also to be put up before the funds, before the funds could be sent in 2023 so this is NOT something agreed after, to allow further funding to take place prior to the hearing in August.

If someone has  access to a court document stating that the ban on funding has been temporarily lifted, due to the timescale to the next meeting them by all means say so and that would obviously then mean, that the can now send funds, so either that exits, or I was told a lie.

The link to the Indian press article that prompted Waggott to invite me in for a meeting, is pasted below.

ED seizes immovable properties worth over Rs 24 cr of Venkateshwara Hatcheries under FEMA provisions (aninews.in)

4 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Which is why Wharton was sold, because they had run out of funds and the adjournment in Jan (?) pulled the rug so they had to sell Wharton on the cheap. So what Waggott told you in Nov was probably correct at the time, but the Jan adjournment messed everything up. 
 

Then when they went back to court in March it was agreed that only procedural and technical issues were outstanding that had nothing to do with Rovers so sending funds is no longer an issue.
 

Then they adjourned again until  August, at which point they will deal with whatever outstanding issues remaining. 
 

that’s my reading of the situation which or may not be correct. We’ll soon find out….

I honestly don’t think that’s correct. Granted it’s nothing to do with Rovers, but it has everything to do with the owners. They have been caught sending illegal funds and were unable to send any more without absolutely clarity of what the funds were paying and getting the courts permission. Right now they cannot send any further funds and need to wait until the hearing in August, which will not only determine if they can send funds then. It will also clarify if they will be banned from sending any funding permanently. 

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

The account hasn't been closed down at all

I thought someone on here said it has. I haven’t checked so obviously that was wrong then. 

2 hours ago, Upside Down said:

Is it me or does this all seem a bit fishy?

Given that account  has now been closed down, yes very fishy. 

16 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I didn’t realise a breakdown of expenditure was required, I just thought any expenditure had to be met with a bond of the same amount? I suppose it makes sense given the events that prompted the investigation. 
 

Like you say it will all become clear in the next month or so once the transfer window opens.

This is again, exactly why Waggott stated that the funds were coming in February. His line was, I provided a full breakdown of what the exact amounts needed were and what they were for. The court accepted that and the funds were released. Given this, a precedent has been set, so the same will happen in  February.

He perhaps did not account for an adjournment, but he did state that we only had the funds (in late November) to pay everything until February. 
As we now know the Wharton sale meant funds did come in to carry on, but it must have been a close run thing. 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

They dont tell anyone anything. But weve seen in the past them turn down requests to spend on things out of scope of FFP. Plus they havent continiously spent to the brink of FFP.

Which demonstrates yet again that the often trotted out communication, “The owners never fail to sign a cheque” is also nonsense.